Fighting Technique Question

[Cisco]

How so? The bullets(or laser rounds) from a gatling gun would spread over distance. They're not really meant to be that prescice ;p

This I can understand. At a distance with a heavy rapid fire weapon barely anythings going to hit, Lasers being much more accurate though. Bullets on the other hand are harder to deal with. But up within decent range It'd be kinda ridiculous if a Padawan blocked bullets like it was nothing.

 

[Deloi]

I'm sure even if they did block three out of the fifty or so coming at them, they would have put up on friggin good show. :P

 

[Rameth]

@DeathToll
First of all who said anything about tugging on someones wrist as a throw? That would just be dumb. I only used that loose description as an example to show what I was talking about. Also you would block the attack and then grab, not just snatch it out of the air lol.

Also you should grab a part of someones body and not their clothes as their clothes could rip and mess everything up. Its not like in the movies where everyone has awesome indestructible shirts.

@Vanity
What do you mean? Could you inform them/us please as I would like to hear you're opinion.

@Gatling Laser/Bullets
How would bullets be harder to deal with then lasers? They're freaking lasers?! I would think bullets go slower then lasers so it would be easier to deal with bullets, technically anyway.

 

[Jake]

@Vanity
What do you mean? Could you inform them/us please as I would like to hear you're opinion.

That was largely in response to Deloi's post about cars and anyone who took it seriously. :P

as for your question:

Grapples have been a long source of contention in RP fighting. If you initiate a grapple and your opponent continues through with it, then voila you're both grappling. Throwing him to the ground without giving him a chance to respond is godmoding, so once you're both grappling you need to do something to break the grapple... ie, use the Force to pick up a rock from behind and slam it into their head, knee them, kick them, etc.

 

[Kuran]

I've always found that when in doubt, use of the word "attempts" is the seperator between godmodding and perfectly acceptable RP.

Example:

Juisk stepped forward and grabbed Matthias by the throat, choking him.
BAD

Juisk stepped forward and reached out his hand, attempting to clutch his opponent's throat.
Good

 

[Cisco]

@Gatling Laser/Bullets
How would bullets be harder to deal with then lasers? They're freaking lasers?! I would think bullets go slower then lasers so it would be easier to deal with bullets, technically anyway.

Well, bullets can't actually be deflected and they don't give off the visible light that blaster bolts do, which by definition are not lasers. If I remember correctly a Jedi blocks blaster bolts by precognition, knowing the man is going to fire before he does. Blasters also go in a straight line unlike bullets which will spread making them much less predictable. Also, I'm not sure but bullets may be well possible of firing much faster due to the weapon not heating up as fast as a blaster would making the possibility of blocking much harder and with the possibility of different type of ammunition blocking might not be the best thing to do. I.E. explosive rounds.

 

[Deloi]

That was largely in response to Deloi's post about cars and anyone who took it seriously. :P

as for your question:

Grapples have been a long source of contention in RP fighting. If you initiate a grapple and your opponent continues through with it, then voila you're both grappling. Throwing him to the ground without giving him a chance to respond is godmoding, so once you're both grappling you need to do something to break the grapple... ie, use the Force to pick up a rock from behind and slam it into their head, knee them, kick them, etc.

Indeed don't take my car post seriously, it was an overly long joke I was writing for a skit.

 

[DeathToll]

@DeathToll
First of all who said anything about tugging on someones wrist as a throw? That would just be dumb. I only used that loose description as an example to show what I was talking about.

Who? That would be Deloil: "you can easily just say you caught it". I was responding to that line of thought. Please read other posts to which posts like mine may refer.

Also you would block the attack and then grab, not just snatch it out of the air lol.

I prefer to bypass such things all together... usually. I'll leave it at that.

Also you should grab a part of someones body and not their clothes as their clothes could rip and mess everything up. Its not like in the movies where everyone has awesome indestructible shirts.

It was an added suggestion, both situational and applicable to how I described the thrower's other arm. As well, most traditional Jedi garb act more like martial artist's gi's, which are quite durable. My own character wears leather, most of the time, as this suggestion would work just fine against him.

@Gatling Laser/Bullets
How would bullets be harder to deal with then lasers? They're freaking lasers?! I would think bullets go slower then lasers so it would be easier to deal with bullets, technically anyway.

Either way, a gatling gun would be pumping out so many bullets, that the amount of hits would outway the amount of strays IF SOMEONE IS ACTUALLY ATTEMPTING TO MAKE THEIR SHOTS HIT SOMEONE. Otherwise, someone would not yet shoot would they? Come on. Lets be logical about this... I doubt most people would waist the bullets on such a long distance and poorly chanced shot.

As well. Think about it.. This isn't like the movie ''Push'', where you just blindly stick out your hand and bullets bounce off of an invisible shield. A Padawan would have to be concentrating on the exact location of each bullet, unable to predict (as Reiger suggested) the trajectory of a bullet. And at a closer range, I do believe that bullets are faster than blaster bolts. Could be wrong but..

Perhaps if we were talking about someone a little more experience, trained well above the Padawan level, as well as knowledgeable to what type of gun they were up against... THEN, with all of these very unlikely conditions, I would accept such an oppinion. The term used was "Padawan". -That-, my friend, is just not possible.

 

[Deloi]

Wait, when did I say "You could just easily catch it"? Also have you ever used a gatling gun?

 

[Insanity]

.. A gatling gun is actually more accurate then a modern IRL machine-gun... Just sayin'.

 

[DeathToll]

Wait, when did I say "You could just easily catch it"?

It was your first post in this thread in fact.. Here..

Grappling has never been very well done in rps, anyway. However if they are going through with a punch, you can easily just say you caught it, and then say "attempt to break/counter" blah blah. Catching a punch that comes isn't a godmod because there is really little way to avoid getting your punch caught if it's done right. If you expect it that's a different story.

From your point of view:

Punch Comes
Catch and attempt to hit
Fist is pulled away before punch or hit with punch

It's that simple.

Also have you ever used a gatling gun?

Is that some sort of loaded question? ..pardon the pun. Do I need to fire a gun to know how many bullets are loaded into the chamber? Man has used gatling guns before. Man has recorded its characteristics and effects on its users and victims alike. Have you ever dropped a bowling ball off the side of Mount Rushmore? No? Then you must not know what will happen, will you?

Not trying to be an ass or anything. If I'm coming off too harshly, it is not intended.


EDIT:...

.. A gatling gun is actually more accurate then a modern IRL machine-gun... Just sayin'.

...and, I am not personally aware if that is a fact or not, but thank you Malferathka.

 

[Insanity]

Just sayin'....

 

[Xyrael]

I'd take dual-wielding recoilless automatic shotguns with drum magazines over a gatling gun.

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[DeathToll]

lol Xyrael..

Nice. Very nice.

 

[Insanity]

He has the best vids. Loved his flamethrower one.

 

[Deloi]

It was your first post in this thread in fact.. Here..

Is that some sort of loaded question? ..pardon the pun. Do I need to fire a gun to know how many bullets are loaded into the chamber? Man has used gatling guns before. Man has recorded its characteristics and effects on its users and victims alike. Have you ever dropped a bowling ball off the side of Mount Rushmore? No? Then you must not know what will happen, will you?

Not trying to be an ass or anything. If I'm coming off too harshly, it is not intended.

EDIT:...

...and, I am not personally aware if that is a fact or not, but thank you Malferathka.

I meant easy to write that you caught it not catch it in general. I did not say you can just practically flick the guy to the ground or whatever you said in your example. Also it wasn't loaded, I wanted to know if had handled one before because I have not. Bugger, I just wanted to know if someone knew what they were talkign about and not just going off damnable wikipedia.

 

[Insanity]

:) Never handled a weapon beyond a 9mm pistol, but I've researched stuff before.

As far as gatling guns have gone in history, their design was made so that they fired multiple rounds in a short time, while keeping accurate. The downside is that they're huge, can't be carried as portable weapon without reducing accuracy a lot, and they're hard to make. Beyond that, if someone were to have a gatling gun emplacement firing bullets, it'd be a lot more effective and deadly than a laser version, not to mention faster.

 

[Michael Scott]

badass. I shot an M9 on a field trip to Damn Neck Navy Base. Using FATS. forgot what the acronym stands for though.

 

[Honorable]

badass. I shot an M9 on a field trip to Damn Neck Navy Base. Using FATS. forgot what the acronym stands for though.

NJROTC?
FATS = Firearm Training System.

 

[Insanity]

It was a friend of my mom who taught me, had me shoot a target every so often. God, my aim sucked at first. Been years since though, need to go find someone to practice with after I find a job. :)