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In regards to Nor'baal's question:

tl;dr - yes, but only after a second deadlocked ballot when delegates are released and can do whatever they want. So the only way to railroad through a preferred candidate is if there's a brokered convention, but the party still has to convince the delegates.

There's been talk, for example, that if the GOP has a brokered convention, the party establishment will try to get Mitt Romney nominated from the floor.
 

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Warmonger hit the nail pretty much on the head. Caucus season's always interesting. I'm in Iowa, so it's the one time of the year where politicians try to make us feel special to get our vote. Other than that, Caucusing and Primary seasons are usually a mess. All you need to do is search Hillary Clinton's caucus/primary scandals this year and you'll know what I'm talking about.
 

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Voting for Trump. Yep, I know all the issues with it, but if it's coming down to Hiliary vs Trump I just can't vote for Hiliary, now if Burnie was in it then I'd vote for him. Just seeing that fake smile makes me angry. Besides, I just can't bring myself to care anymore. Either way things aren't going to change, the system won't let it.
 

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In regards to Nor'baal's question:

tl;dr - yes, but only after a second deadlocked ballot when delegates are released and can do whatever they want. So the only way to railroad through a preferred candidate is if there's a brokered convention, but the party still has to convince the delegates.

There's been talk, for example, that if the GOP has a brokered convention, the party establishment will try to get Mitt Romney nominated from the floor.

Do you think there is a possibility of a Trump Romney ticket?
 

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In regards to Nor'baal's question:

tl;dr - yes, but only after a second deadlocked ballot when delegates are released and can do whatever they want. So the only way to railroad through a preferred candidate is if there's a brokered convention, but the party still has to convince the delegates.

There's been talk, for example, that if the GOP has a brokered convention, the party establishment will try to get Mitt Romney nominated from the floor.
If they actually try to do that with Romney I can't even imagine the uproar from all the Trumpettes. I feel like it would embolden him to run as an independent, although I think that would cripple the Republican vote and pretty much let any dem who is running slide right into the seat.
 
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Do you think there is a possibility of a Trump Romney ticket?
Romney would never say yes to VP. He's an executive, not a second fiddle.

Plus, politically, there wouldn't really be an upside to Trump choosing Romney as VP.
 

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Voting for Trump. Yep, I know all the issues with it, but if it's coming down to Hiliary vs Trump I just can't vote for Hiliary, now if Burnie was in it then I'd vote for him. Just seeing that fake smile makes me angry. Besides, I just can't bring myself to care anymore. Either way things aren't going to change, the system won't let it.

Politics tends to operate under something resembling enthalpy and hysteresis respectively: effects lag but the main catalysts are pressure and time. With that being said, I don't agree with the too-cute analyses expositulated that Mssr. Trump has uncovered a new wing of voters in the Republican Party. This circus is a culmination of historical processes dating back to the falling profit rate of the late 60s and the general reaction that followed. People have been hurting and angry for a long time. Their anger has been cultivated by craven and cynical elites and diverted into cheap and meaningless nationalism. The tipping point (at least insofar as the revanchist, chauvinist Right is concerned) is approaching.

You can see an analog on the "Left" as well, though Mssr. Sanders is at least as much of a fraud as Mssr. Trump (and he too is no stranger to American chauvinism.) Expect messiness of all sorts. Don't expect stasis. Politics, like all systems, tend to lag, but even reactionary systems can give way to massive change (progressive change in the past, not so much now.)

I am angry. But I do not despair. As the old saw goes "Don't mourn, organize!"

tl; dr Everything's eternal until it's not.

P.S. I mean look at the Cubs: Theo Epstein has a good shot of winning them a pennant this year and they're cursed by a goat.
 

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P.S. I mean look at the Cubs: Theo Epstein has a good shot of winning them a pennant this year and they're cursed by a goat.
4-to-1 to win the world series.

Potential for a shitty businessman or a socialist Jew (jesus?) to become president.

We truly live in exciting times.
 

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Schwarber gave up a couple of dumb ones, but ever since he was was a prospect, he has a tendency to shade balls a bit too hard. Just gotta get their centerfield a bit tightened up with pop flys and walk off bats and the Cubs should be good to go. My beloved Mets got (as much as I hate to admit it) lucky. And as much as I like Terry, Joe would have been better at bullpen rotation. Not sure anyone could have beaten that Royals team based on contact plays and how efficient they were inside the strike zone, but I think the Cubs could have put up more of a fight.

And they just resigned Fowler. So if they look good come spring training, those odds look fairly decent to me (might lower it a bit just based on how deep the National League Central is.)
 

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Honestly I've been for Trump for a long while now. I think that guy can bring change, needed change to america. I like the idea that he is not a politician, this is his first go, so that's a bonus for me.

And I think it wise to consider this guys. The president, no matter who it is, will have help. He/she may be the executive, but they have advisors who are EXPERTS at what ever it is they do. So Trump would have the best of the best in his cabinet, helping him lead. Helping him make these tough decisions.

But why Trump? You may ask. Simple, he's the type of dude that will take no non sense from anyone. Once he is in charge HE IS IN CHARGE and he will make that clear.

Also what is a country? If not a business? I think a country or a nation is simply, one big business. But right now america is not a business, it's a charity. Everyone gets a free hand out, it seems. Except for those people who work and do what they need to do. (Pay taxes and the such)

And Trump is a business man. A successful business man. Trump as a president would not be bad. It'd be different, but not bad.
 

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I've been so hot and cold over this entire election since day one. The only reason I could ever vote for Trump (and for me it's kind of a big one) is for someone to just take a back hand to political correctness in this country (and I'm speaking as a gay vegetarian wiccan on this...) but realistically I would never cast a vote for him on that reason alone. This election is sophie's choice for me especially on the Dems (i'm not a registered Democrat but still). I like Bernie but people of my generation see him as a sort of magician who's going to make everything better and implement everything he's been stumping about. Now if there was a real possibility of the dems gaining back Congress I would absolutely vote for him but I don't think that's happening and since Bernie has a major drought in foreign policy experience, when he can't get his way domestically and looks abroad for finding acclaim in his leadership, I think we will all be left wanting.

That being said Hillary is a boring centrist (and not the good kind) who is too close to wall street and will be a feel good one term president. I'm not saying she'll definitely loose the next election since everyone is forecasting a democratic landslide based on the numbers but I think we'll be very much over with the enthusiasm of having a woman president.
 

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I love watching President elections, it reminds me that the Scotland doesn't have weird ass people like Donald Trump
 

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I am British.
I live on an island that predominantly subsists on tea and misery.

As such, forgive my silly question: Can't both parties just railroad through a candidate at their national conventions?
it gets to a point where we just give up on summer in most parts of the Uk. In Scotland, more people care about the president elections more than the Scottish Parliament Elections
 

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Honestly I've been for Trump for a long while now. I think that guy can bring change, needed change to america. I like the idea that he is not a politician, this is his first go, so that's a bonus for me.

And I think it wise to consider this guys. The president, no matter who it is, will have help. He/she may be the executive, but they have advisors who are EXPERTS at what ever it is they do. So Trump would have the best of the best in his cabinet, helping him lead. Helping him make these tough decisions.

But why Trump? You may ask. Simple, he's the type of dude that will take no non sense from anyone. Once he is in charge HE IS IN CHARGE and he will make that clear.

Also what is a country? If not a business? I think a country or a nation is simply, one big business. But right now america is not a business, it's a charity. Everyone gets a free hand out, it seems. Except for those people who work and do what they need to do. (Pay taxes and the such)

And Trump is a business man. A successful business man. Trump as a president would not be bad. It'd be different, but not bad.
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Honestly I've been for Trump for a long while now. I think that guy can bring change, needed change to america. I like the idea that he is not a politician, this is his first go, so that's a bonus for me.

And I think it wise to consider this guys. The president, no matter who it is, will have help. He/she may be the executive, but they have advisors who are EXPERTS at what ever it is they do. So Trump would have the best of the best in his cabinet, helping him lead. Helping him make these tough decisions.

But why Trump? You may ask. Simple, he's the type of dude that will take no non sense from anyone. Once he is in charge HE IS IN CHARGE and he will make that clear.

Also what is a country? If not a business? I think a country or a nation is simply, one big business. But right now america is not a business, it's a charity. Everyone gets a free hand out, it seems. Except for those people who work and do what they need to do. (Pay taxes and the such)

And Trump is a business man. A successful business man. Trump as a president would not be bad. It'd be different, but not bad.

He is also a no nonsense man with his finger hanging over the nuclear launch button if he wins.

''Also what is a country? If not a business?'' - A social collective of people co-habiting the same landmass, with a shared history and culture?

''And Trump is a business man. A successful business man.'' - He has a lot of money yes. He is a personality, yes. But I am not going to lie, if my Dad gave me $200,000,000 and a vast network of Business contacts, I am pretty sure I could become a successful businessman as well. Lob in three cases of bankruptcy and three wives - and you have Donald Trump.
 
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