Yuuzhan Vong: Intriguing species or ridiculous addition?

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As one whose only read 2 books with them in it and 1 with Zonama Sekot (by far my favorite), I am fan of the concept. I like the whole "living weapons and ship" idea. While I think the species seems a bit OP, it is a decent design. What is everyone else's opinions on the SWRP banned Yuuzhan Vong?
 

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I've never read any of the books involving the Vong, and don't know much about them other than when they invaded the Galaxy they completely and utterly Tyrannosaurus Rekt it, but I admit, the concept of a species that's extra-galactic and "cut off" from the Force is rather interesting.
 

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It goes against what the Force represents. They're extra-galactic, not extra-dimensional, there's no reason that the laws of physics (and metaphysics) wouldn't apply to them while it applies to the rest of the universe, most multi-universe models argue that physics holds the same for everything within the same universe.

The living weapons and ships is cool. Tyranids did it first.
 

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I've never read any of the books involving the Vong, and don't know much about them other than when they invaded the Galaxy they completely and utterly Tyrannosaurus Rekt it, but I admit, the concept of a species that's extra-galactic and "cut off" from the Force is rather interesting.

So, Star Wars Tyranids?

The living weapons and ships is cool. Tyranids did it first.

Damn, beat me. Although I'll add that Nids even have rules that make it harder to cast psychic powers around them.
 

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Damn, beat me. Although I'll add that Nids even have rules that make it harder to cast psychic powers around them.

Seems like a trope to me; organic aliens defy magicks. At least Tyranids make sense in that it seems to be caused by constant use of the warp to communicate. They're using up too much broadband.
 

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So, Star Wars Tyranids?

It's funny you mention them, since I've done a casual reading on 40K lore and find it interesting, which is kind of unusual since I'm not a big fan of grimdark settings.
 

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I never cared for the Vong. As has been mentioned before, they were basically SW Tyranids, but less interesting. Also, Zonama Sekot was... no. I just... a wandering, living, thinking planet? Somebody must have looked up Gaia theory and thought it was a neato concept, completely excluding the fact that the Force basically already addressed that notion [to a degree] on a galactic scale.
 

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Ridiculous addition. This is when the post-Jedi EU went off the rails.
 

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I just really like the whole "living ships" concept. The species as a whole, kinda ridiculous for SW. The ships and weapons that are living creatures....kinda cool. But my love is the Zonama Sekot starships.
 

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A race of extragalactics that are cut off from the Force? Pretty cool. A race of extragalactics that fly asteroids around as ships is pretty stupid. So stupid, in fact, that it was the Old Republic's April Fool's Day joke last year.
 

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If it weren't for the fact that they represented the third of fourth attempt at invaders from beyond the known galaxy, they might've been better. A big problem, like a lot of other sections of the EU is that there was also little consistency between writers regarding the Vong. Definitely the point where I lost interest in Post-ROTJ entirely.
 

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The Vong is the perfect example of how the EU got out of control and became a Saga all its own. When you have the Vong absolutely STOMPING the GA and Jedi, it really makes the Sith less/Empire less menacing.
 

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Yeah. Star Wars is about Dark vs Light, Authoritarianism vs. Democracy, not Nature vs. Man - which while interesting, if done it should've been woven into one of the two aforementioned themes. By abandoning the Empire and Sith as the main enemy, and negating the importance of the Jedi, it failed to feel like Star Wars.
 

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The idea seemed interesting (albeit somewhat ridiculous), I feel the execution wasn't that good.
 

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Yeah. Star Wars is about Dark vs Light, Authoritarianism vs. Democracy, not Nature vs. Man - which while interesting, if done it should've been woven into one of the two aforementioned themes. By abandoning the Empire and Sith as the main enemy, and negating the importance of the Jedi, it failed to feel like Star Wars.

Well, I wouldn't say Nature vs Man isn't part of Star Wars. That's the very nature of the conflict between the Force, Jedi, and Sith. But I agree in that it could've been better woven into the other themes.
 

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I thought the living technology was a cool idea, I also did like their concept of classes with different gods, and their lack of the force. Outside this though there wasn't much else.
 

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The Vong were also originally planned to be exiled Sith. That would have, at least, tied the story a little more closely to the core of Star Wars. It would also have made far more sense if you consider the old theory that Palpatine created the Empire to defend against the Vong. It suddenly is far more in Palpatine's character if you consider he created the Empire to ensure the Order of the Sith Lords wouldn't be defeated by millenia old 'archaic' Sith.
 

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Didn't they also counter literally every technology with their own?
 

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George Lucas looked at what R.A. Salvatore had written so far, liked it, and then casually told him to kill Chewie. And in that moment I hated the New Jedi Order.
 

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At least it wasn't as pathetic of a death (well, somewhat) as it could have been. Took a moon falling on him to kill him. Though in the long run was a pointless death.
 
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