The Empire's Grip OOC

[Panda Hermit 98]

Is it just me or is this getting a tad aggressive?

 

[Valen Pelora]

Unfortunately for you then, this is not a PvP thread yet. No one is actively engage in fighting anyone.

I'm fairly certain that rule applies to the entire thread. In my mind, 12 hours is ridiculously restrictive and you can't set that time limit. If you are going to insist on it, then we will head for report number 1.

 

[Panda Hermit 98]

12 hours dos seem a bit much, what if someone posts whilst the next poster has just gone to sleep and has to work or go to College the next day, they'd need to post as soon as they wake up our at work, that's pretty unfair. 24 hours works far better in my opinion

 

[Aberforth]

24 hours means with people stalling we could have to wait 2 weeks between posts which is ridiculous, especially since nothing is happening yet. I stand by my argument, PvP has not started. Until we engage, the time limit can be change without an agreement. Report it if you wish.

 

[Valen Pelora]

24 hours means with people stalling we could have to wait 2 weeks between posts which is ridiculous, especially since nothing is happening yet. I stand by my argument, PvP has not started. Until we engage, the time limit can be change without an agreement. Report it if you wish.

I will be reporting the post tonight.

 

[Tsunami]

If this is just going to descend into a OOC thread, I would kindly ask that I come out of it. It is exhausting and takes all the fun away from the story.

I would personally ask that the thread continue on with shorter posting times until such time as the PvP starts, at which point (due to the spread of the battle) we break off into threads that adhere to the PvP rules. Once PvP is concluded the winning side in each thread can post a summary of their own PvP engagement and the ball can then continue to roll within the main thread. This is something that can't be too hard to manage and I will happily help with if needs be.

I think @Aberforth is right in that 2 weeks to post is too long AND it will no doubt lead to people forgetting about the thread, people then appealing for extensions etc etc and that drags it on even more. 2 weeks per post would mean we probably wouldn't see the end of this thread this time line.

Think of the example this sets to newer members, or even those considering trying the already daunting PvP aspect of the site. OOC clashes more vicious than the threads themselves.

 

[Valen Pelora]

If this is just going to descend into a OOC thread, I would kindly ask that I come out of it. It is exhausting and takes all the fun away from the story.

I would personally ask that the thread continue on with shorter posting times until such time as the PvP starts, at which point (due to the spread of the battle) we break off into threads that adhere to the PvP rules. Once PvP is concluded the winning side in each thread can post a summary of their own PvP engagement and the ball can then continue to roll within the main thread. This is something that can't be too hard to manage and I will happily help with if needs be.

I think @Aberforth is right in that 2 weeks to post is too long AND it will no doubt lead to people forgetting about the thread, people then appealing for extensions etc etc and that drags it on even more. 2 weeks per post would mean we probably wouldn't see the end of this thread this time line.

Think of the example this sets to newer members, or even those considering trying the already daunting PvP aspect of the site. OOC clashes more vicious than the threads themselves.

I wholeheartedly agree with this. We were told multiple times this was going to be a "story-oriented thread" that would "be a part of the impending invasion of Coruscant." I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, this would be a collaborative story thread. However, this appears to be an attempt to use an SD to kill a large number of PCs (mostly newer members). If my assumption is incorrect I would be more than happy to readjust how the thread moves forward. As it stands now I think this will likely require some OOC discussion.

 

[Valen Pelora]

I did file a report so everyone should hold off posting.

 

[Talon maara]

I wholeheartedly agree with this. We were told multiple times this was going to be a "story-oriented thread" that would "be a part of the impending invasion of Coruscant." I assumed, perhaps incorrectly, this would be a collaborative story thread. However, this appears to be an attempt to use an SD to kill a large number of PCs (mostly newer members). If my assumption is incorrect I would be more than happy to readjust how the thread moves forward. As it stands now I think this will likely require some OOC discussion.

Let’s get our ball rolling on our end with what we discussed. We got this.

 

[Sreeya]

Since the RP Admins are very much pulled into working on the next timeline, I'll be making a ruling on this.

First things first, the espionage rules state the following: At minimum there must be a 72 hour window between completion of the preparation thread(s) and the execution of the conspiracy/plot.

This means that the execution thread may not be posted till 72 hours after the completion of the last prep thread. Going forward, we will add in that clarification to the rules that this means posting the thread at all. However, up until now, we have never had an issue with this rule being misread so this is the first instance of it being violated.

While the timing of the espionage thread would void the attempt, unfortunately @Tsunami and @Ulysses have posted since @Insalius did, and this validates his entry in the thread. If there were issues, they should have been raised right when he entered, but now he is certainly in the thread. I also recognize that it would have been impossible to tell this was a trap thread until Insal posted. In an effort to be fair to both sides, I'm making the following ruling:

All Jedi attempting to perform the rescue operation will have one round of posts to attempt to escape the planet. It took one post to enter, so escaping shouldn't be a problem. As of now, Insal is in low orbit, but he's not directly above the facility yet. This means the rescuers need to decide between continuing their operation or getting out of the area. After this round, it's entirely up to @Insalius what he does with the destroyer. A round means everyone gets a chance to make a post without Insalius interjecting. Note - if Insalius chooses to pursue anyone specifically in their escape while in air, he is able to do so.

 

[Talon maara]

Thank you @Sreeya With that being said they don’t know we are here as of yet. There was no proof Jedi are there just some heat signatures outside and a crashed ship that gave off a tip.

 

[Valen Pelora]

This should serve as a reminder that if you are in a thread with allies, you should always communicate before you post. My suggestion on the continuance of the thread is as follows:

I would strongly suggest we trim the number of participants and make this a story oriented thread. The Korriban threads are going up tonight and I want as many people as possible to participate in those threads. If we can't come to an agreement I would advocate for retreat (sorry @Ulysses). Again, because of how soon the Korriban threads will be starting. We are trying to keep reports low because the staff is hard at work on the time timeline. This thread, as currently crafted, is likely to cause more issues.

 

[Ulysses]

So was there a prep thread to get this star destroyer involved? (Asking for future reference, accept ruling above)
And what about the fact that we have a man in space?

What about splitting into smaller threads for convenience sake?

 

[Insalius]

Yes, this thread: http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/index.php?threads/lull.76060/

@Ulysses

As for the Jedi in space, not that I was aware of.

 

[Tsunami]

So was there a prep thread to get this star destroyer involved? (Asking for future reference, accept ruling above)
And what about the fact that we have a man in space?

What about splitting into smaller threads for convenience sake?

Don't worry about me, I have the choice to make my escape the same as everyone else.

In terms of splitting the threads, while i thought that may be beneficial at the time, @Sreeya has told me that it would be too hard to manage with a SD active in low orbit, which I totally understand.

I have no idea about a prep thread. Regardless, you have the options to leave or stay if you wish.

@Insalius I have stated in my post that I have come in alongside the Jedi. Only difference is I have stayed within the vicinity of space for the time being.

 

[Insalius]

@Talon maara You are correct that I do not know who is attacking. I am taking that into account for my posts.

 

[Topher Ridge]

This should serve as a reminder that if you are in a thread with allies, you should always communicate before you post. My suggestion on the continuance of the thread is as follows:

I would strongly suggest we trim the number of participants and make this a story oriented thread. The Korriban threads are going up tonight and I want as many people as possible to participate in those threads. If we can't come to an agreement I would advocate for retreat (sorry @Ulysses). Again, because of how soon the Korriban threads will be starting. We are trying to keep reports low because the staff is hard at work on the time timeline. This thread, as currently crafted, is likely to cause more issues.

Well as far as dropping out I'm willing to if others don't want to. I'd rather not because I was one of the first to respond when @Ulysses first asked.

 

[Sreeya]

In terms of splitting the threads, while i thought that may be beneficial at the time, @Sreeya has told me that it would be too hard to manage with a SD active in low orbit, which I totally understand.

Lol this was never mentioned as a ruling to tell you what you can/can’t do. I only made an observation that it might be difficult. Offering opinion on a discord chat =/= official staff stance/rule. If all parties wanna work something out, anything is doable.

 

[Valen Pelora]

My suggestion would still (heavily) to be working something story oriented out. It's pretty clear that if the subsequent posts had not occurred the espionage aspect would have been voided. However, it appears the Sith side is not interested in such a story thread. I should be able to post sometime this afternoon.

 

[Sreeya]

My suggestion would still (heavily) to be working something story oriented out. It's pretty clear that if the subsequent posts had not occurred the espionage aspect would have been voided. However, it appears the Sith side is not interested in such a story thread. I should be able to post sometime this afternoon.

These kind of snide remarks need to stop. A ruling was made, people are allowed a means of escape. Drop the foul attitude now. That line right there makes you come off as a negative person I wouldn't wanna work with to come up with a story. This is not up for debate, everyone needs to clean up their act in these oocs.