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Below is an essay that I wrote tonight for homework. After I was done, I said "Wow, this would make a good debate topic". Please note, however, that this topic is meant to discuss political tactics and the immense amount of partisan politics that we have been hearing so much about lately. Though the War on Terror and September 11 are mentioned in my essay, they are not part of the overall topic so any discussion on Islam or any of the general stuff that makes me oh so happy (sarcasm) will not be tolerated.

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On the night of September 11, 2001, President George W. Bush addressed the United States in a broadcast from the Oval Office where he vowed to keep America safe and vowed to make sure that she continued to be the “brightest beacon for freedom and opportunity in the world”. That same day, he vowed to “hunt down and to find those folks who committed this act”. Five years later, on September 11, 2006, President Bush paid his solemn respect for the nearly 3,000 victims by attending memorial services at the World Trade Center site in New York City, the crash site of United Airlines Flight 93 in Shanksville, Pennsylvania and the Pentagon in Washington, D.C. Later that night, he once again addressed the nation from the Oval Office to once again vow to do whatever it takes to protect the United States. However, instead of giving a speech filled only with words of comfort such as the one given on September 11, 2001, President Bush gave what appeared to be a political speech to attempt to convince American citizens, mainly those voting in the Midterm Elections in November, that the War in Iraq is central to the War on Terror. “Whatever mistakes have been made in Iraq, the worst mistake would be to think that if we pulled out, the terrorists would leave us alone,” President Bush said. “They will not leave us alone. They will follow us. The safety of America depends on the outcome of the battle in the streets of Baghdad.” Not long after the speech had ended, Democratic leaders in the United States Senate and the United States House of Representatives claimed that President Bush was “more consumed by staying the course in Iraq and playing election-year politics.” Democratic Leader Senator Harry Reid went on to say that the “American people deserved better than last night. They deserved a chance to reclaim that sense of unity, purpose and patriotism that swept through our country five years ago”. Republican shot back by accusing the Democrats themselves of playing partisan politics by saying that now “is not the time for cheap partisan politics. We’re in this war and it’s a war that’s going to define this whole new century.”

I find myself in the position of agreeing with both parties on this issue. In some respects, the Democrats are correct in saying that President Bush took advantage of the situation by trying to help rally voters to vote Republican in November in an attempt to stay in control of Congress. In 2001, President Bush gave one of the best speeches of his career. He offered words of wisdom, comfort and spiritual uplifting. It wasn’t for another few days that he gave a speech saying that the United States would have to go to war with the Al-Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden. However, that speech was given to Congress, not to the people of the United States. Although the Democrats are correct in saying that there was partisan politics in the speech, they did nothing to make themselves look like the “good guys” after it. To accuse someone of playing partisan politics by exploiting a situation where 3,000 people died simply to earn votes in the Midterm Elections is in fact partisan politics. The Democrats fought fire with fire, and by responding to the Democratic attack the Republicans did nothing more than throw more fuel onto the fire. If either party wishes to gain the nations trust, they need to show that they can raise above the partisan politics and simply say “we respect their opinion, but we believe that they are wrong” not engage in a battle of he-said/she-said.
 

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Dude, Loose Change is a bunch of Bull...I'm not even going to LOOK at that link.

On Topic: Pretty cool...Have to agree with you on it, too.
 

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Loose change is not a bunch of bull....It is done by intelligent people looking past the obvious,

Anyway....Um....Nice essay bac
 

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Yes, that's why they Claim that all the Calls from Flight 93 were fake and that it never happened, and that Flight 93 Was safe and sound in Colorado at the time of the Crash.
 

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Then why did the government take videos from the places opposite the pentagon that could of confirmed a plane hit it...and only released 5 frames...and none of them show a plane.

Why did the twin towers collapse when the jet fuel that apprently weakened the steel did it after less then 2 hours?

while a building in spain was on fire for 24 hours and didn't collapse.

Why are the only three buildings ever to collapse that were made of steel happen to be the trade centres 1, 2 and 7?

You qoute stuff...I'll qoute stuff all day long.

So how about we don't get into this ok?
 

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STOP DISCUSSING 9/11 THEORIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Scre Partisan Politics, as well as Democracy. Our society is disgusting, all these talk about all of us being equal is a lie. We're not equal, we're just a bunch of mindless sheeps admiring shitty actors and signers who are slowly depleting our resources. We blindly follow the media, doing everything they tell us, STRIVING to reach the mainstream and be pretty and cool because it's really the only thing that will make you above everyone else.

We should go back with some ruthless oppresive regime. An government who would cast down these fake heroes to the bowels of hierarchy and bring everyone down equally in a great burning. Dress everyone in an uniform, give them a random number as their name, so that their very identity would be destroyed. Any form of violence would be swiftly dealt with , with harsh punishment, death maybe? Who knows? The harder the better, just to set an example. This could last a few decades maybe, or even more and then we would unite agaisnt this regime and perhaps if we are strong enough, and derserve the right to flourish and blossom thereafter, we would overthrow and start anew. I believe that only then we would truly be able to live in harmony with one another. The human race is stubborn. Only if it is brought down to the brick of annihilation will it learn to respect life and their kin.
 

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I just suddenly had the sudden urge to watch THX-1138 after reading that.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Brandon Rhea @ Sep 13 2006, 10:18 PM) [snapback]112319[/snapback]</div>
I just suddenly had the sudden urge to watch THX-1138 after reading that.
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Dude, same here.....I think Sin's been watching too many movies.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Brandon Rhea @ Sep 13 2006, 10:18 PM) [snapback]112319[/snapback]</div>
I just suddenly had the sudden urge to watch THX-1138 after reading that.
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I dont get my political views from the movies I watch, I dont need someone else to tell me how I should think or act. I simply decide by myself. I dont care if you dont agree with me, but I truly believe in what I just said. It doesn't have to be an oppresive regime, it could just be a nuclear war or some fucked up shit, the point is: Our society will fail.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Nefarius @ Sep 13 2006, 10:22 PM) [snapback]112322[/snapback]</div>
I dont get my political views from the movies I watch, I dont need someone else to tell me how I should think or act. I simply decide by myself. I dont care if you dont agree with me, but I truly believe in what I just said. It doesn't have to be an oppresive regime, it could just be a nuclear war or some fucked up shit.
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I wasn't saying that you get your political views from the movies you watch or that you need someone else to tell you how you should think or act. I don't know if you've ever seen THX-1138, but it was George Lucas' first feature film and it was basically what you described with the whole slapping uniforms and numbers onto everyone.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Absolution @ Sep 13 2006, 06:42 PM) [snapback]112256[/snapback]</div>
Then why did the government take videos from the places opposite the pentagon that could of confirmed a plane hit it...and only released 5 frames...and none of them show a plane.

Why did the twin towers collapse when the jet fuel that apprently weakened the steel did it after less then 2 hours?

while a building in spain was on fire for 24 hours and didn't collapse.

Why are the only three buildings ever to collapse that were made of steel happen to be the trade centres 1, 2 and 7?

You qoute stuff...I'll qoute stuff all day long.

So how about we don't get into this ok?
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Dude, that video has been PROVEN to be false, almost EVERY claim thats made in that movie was proven false. The guy didn't even know that he was looking up the wrong type of engine for comparison, nor that he quoted people who didn't even make airplane engines that said it didn't look like any piece of a rolls royce they'd seen before. The dude is a moron, especially when he claimed it wasn't even the real Osama in the vids because he was wearing a gold ring and watch, and Islam people don't wear gold. Then he shows cropped pictures of him saying that was the REAL Osama, even though when you look up the complete and unedited pictures, hes wearing the ring.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Nefarius @ Sep 13 2006, 10:13 PM) [snapback]112316[/snapback]</div>
Scre Partisan Politics, as well as Democracy. Our society is disgusting, all these talk about all of us being equal is a lie. We're not equal, we're just a bunch of mindless sheeps admiring shitty actors and signers who are slowly depleting our resources. We blindly follow the media, doing everything they tell us, STRIVING to reach the mainstream and be pretty and cool because it's really the only thing that will make you above everyone else.

We should go back with some ruthless oppresive regime. An government who would cast down these fake heroes to the bowels of hierarchy and bring everyone down equally in a great burning. Dress everyone in an uniform, give them a random number as their name, so that their very identity would be destroyed. Any form of violence would be swiftly dealt with , with harsh punishment, death maybe? Who knows? The harder the better, just to set an example. This could last a few decades maybe, or even more and then we would unite agaisnt this regime and perhaps if we are strong enough, and derserve the right to flourish and blossom thereafter, we would overthrow and start anew. I believe that only then we would truly be able to live in harmony with one another. The human race is stubborn. Only if it is brought down to the brick of annihilation will it learn to respect life and their kin.
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And we ARE all equal as Human Beings...No human has more worth than the next. You're basing you're knowledge on truth, yes, but which truth? What defines your worth and equality? How much you will be missed? How much you are loved? How much you are worshipped, perhaps? Nay, none of these defines a Human being's worth nor how equal they are. Popularity isn't worth nor a way of judging equality.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident:

That all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights; that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that, to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness."

Unfortunately, you're ideas will most likely never come to fruition, Sin. And in a way, that is a good thing. Is society corrupt? Yes. Is a PERSON corrupt? Not always. And usually never until Society corrupts him. I, personally belive that Democracy is the best form of Government. More specifically, Democratic Republics such as Rome and America are the best forms of Government. Why? Because we have a say in what goes on in the Country. We can chose to put a smart man or an idiot in Office. We Choose who runs our country and we trust them(Based on the beliefs they have shown while running for any office) to do the Job right. If they don't, then we can fix that mistake by either: A) Not re-electing them, B) Impeaching them, C) Electing other Officials that will work to refuse that person's wishes.


Every few years, Democracies "abolish" their Governments(In a sense) by creating a New "Government" by electing New officials. And if that new "Government" doesn't work out, then we can work to "abolish" that "Government".
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Furor @ Sep 13 2006, 10:26 PM) [snapback]112327[/snapback]</div>
Dude, that video has been PROVEN to be false, almost EVERY claim thats made in that movie was proven false. The guy didn't even know that he was looking up the wrong type of engine for comparison, nor that he quoted people who didn't even make airplane engines that said it didn't look like any piece of a rolls royce they'd seen before. The dude is a moron, especially when he claimed it wasn't even the real Osama in the vids because he was wearing a gold ring and watch, and Islam people don't wear gold. Then he shows cropped pictures of him saying that was the REAL Osama, even though when you look up the complete and unedited pictures, hes wearing the ring.
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Ummmm.....

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Brandon Rhea @ Sep 13 2006, 07:01 PM) [snapback]112261[/snapback]</div>
STOP DISCUSSING 9/11 THEORIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Nice use of Quotes there, Baccie Boy.
 

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Just for the record..As some people seemed to of got confused...Qoute me once where I said I agree with loose changes views..all I said was it was good for people to look past the obvious....

Anyway..I would have to say bac..I believe that politics is a horrible thing and it needs to be changed vastly.
 

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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Absolution @ Sep 13 2006, 06:26 PM) [snapback]112252[/snapback]</div>
Loose change is not a bunch of bull....It is done by intelligent people looking past the obvious,[/b]
There you go Matt. :25:



Oh, I also agree with you in your last post Matt, about politics.
 
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