OOC: Spirits in the Dark

[vamp]

Sorry guys I'll do edits soon

 

[Valen Pelora]

Let us know when the edits are done.

 

[vamp]

I finished the edits.

@Undine i mentioned the illusion in my post, but Malek doesn't know about it IC, so no worries. He just thinks you're going to fight Gren and is following.

 

[Undine]

@Comrade Matt A more reasonable explanation as to Malek's increase attunement to the Force would be to mention the adrenaline pumping through his veins. He did just survive a blast from a rocket detonation. Regardless, you need to remove the word "meditation" from your post.

As Sarisa disappeared into the trees, and everyone was focused on her, Malek remained crouched, his blood boiling with anger and adrenaline. Moments after walking away from a blast radius nearly untarnished, one of the enemies (@Prudence) shot a missile at him. The adrenaline and anger fueled his connection to the dark side of the Force, so much so he was prepared for what he needed to do.

That gets the same effect, but it's worded in such a way as not to break the rules. Nine times out of ten all you have to do in PvP is reword something so as not to break the rules or limitations. Using a word like meditation brings with it a sense of time, too much time in fact as meditation isn't something you can do on the battlefield. When in combat, if you want to reaffirm your character's connection to the Force use the word "focused," Malek focused on the Dark Side, focused on his anger or other emotions and what not. Meditation is a bad word choice, it takes at least a few minutes to properly meditate, even for a Jedi Master or Sith Lord, but any old force sensitive can "focus" their attunement to the Force in a matter of seconds.

Next up, your use of the word invisibility. It's obvious what your trying to do, which is to use Force Stealth, which is allowed, but your usage of the word "invisible" simply won't fly. Nothing can be unblockable in PvP, that includes blocking other's ability to sense you. For instance, Sarisa is using a half-assed version of Force stealth in my post, but she's also using it in tandem with the natural darkness of Umbara and the branches and leaves of the trees around her, allowing those factors to block visibility while focusing more on hiding her own Force signature. At no point do I say she is undetectable, or that she's invisible is someway or another. There is no way to make yourself completely invisible, not in this timeline as that form of stealth tech/Force ability either dosen't exist or isn't allowed at this time.

I just want to point out, it's basically nighttime, shadows and darkness are literally what Umbara is known for, Malek is also dozens of meters away from the people shooting at him. Cry out as they might about the wonders of their HUDs, tech really isn't all it's cracked up to be. Use that distance and the shadows to your advantage. Don't worry about your Force signature, their HUDs don't track that sort of thing, in fact Force Stealth isn't really what you should be going for in my opinion. Take a look at this ability: Force of Will It is a projected aura of one's will, so if your will is to make yourself harder to target by blurring yourself, then it'll get easier to dodge incoming fire. Though using the Force in this way would take a lot of focus, so I wouldn't really try to double up on the Force usage.​

 

[Narsi]

A whole scadoodle of enemies to choose from, and everyone chooses to attack the 7 foot armored lizard.
#lifechoices
Also, incidently, gren is the only one here without long range weaponry soooooo thanks?

 

[Undine]

A whole scadoodle of enemies to choose from, and everyone chooses to attack the 7 foot armored lizard.
#lifechoices
Also, incidently, gren is the only one here without long range weaponry soooooo thanks?

She's also the weakest in regards to defensive Force abilities, if I wasn't intent on surrendering or retreating I'm not really sure how Gren would fair against Sairsa. The entire premise of being a seven foot tall armored lizard is to be a living tank. As it is right now I have no idea how Gren would defend against a Force Stun, which would leave her completely open to attack. Wreckage-ability isn't really a factor if your opponent can just stop your from being able to move. Hell, if Kalan was Force sensitive I would have just had Sarisa land on the ground in front of you both and used a massive Force Stasis on the both of you, then made a run for it. Now, of course I would word it in such a way that left it open to be defended against, not that I can really think of a way Gren would be able to, but then again that bit would be on you to figure out. If I tried it one Gren now, Kalan would most likely just shoot Sarisa and I'd rather not have her killed.

Initially I had planned on throwing Sarisa's lightsaber at Kalan from a about a meter or two away, then using Force Stun on Gren, next round after that I would have used Gren's own lightsaber to kill/fatally wound her, before turning back to Kalan, most likely to evade gunfire of some kind. Take a hit or two, then use the Force to brake a tree limb from above, hurling it at Kalan as Sarisa moved to retreat, wounded but alive. Alas PvP never goes as one intents it to, adaptability is key to survival.​

 

[Undine]

@Narsi I've been thinking, if your willing to indulge me, I'll edit out Sarisa's use of Force stealth so Gren would have a better chance at seeing through the Force Illusion. Then if you'd be so kind as to have Gren wield Sarisa's own blade, holding it to her throat, forcing Sarisa to surrender, I'd be most grateful. I thought of a witty comment Sarisa could say as she surrenders. It wouldn't work if Kalan was the one to do it.​

 

[Valen Pelora]

Someone just post when all the edits are finished/made, so whoever is next in the posting order knows when to go.

 

[vamp]

@Undine thanks for the tip! I added most of that in.

With that, I'm pretty much done editing unless someone else has a problem

 

[Narsi]

She's also the weakest in regards to defensive Force abilities, if I wasn't intent on surrendering or retreating I'm not really sure how Gren would fair against Sairsa. The entire premise of being a seven foot tall armored lizard is to be a living tank. As it is right now I have no idea how Gren would defend against a Force Stun, which would leave her completely open to attack. Wreckage-ability isn't really a factor if your opponent can just stop your from being able to move. Hell, if Kalan was Force sensitive I would have just had Sarisa land on the ground in front of you both and used a massive Force Stasis on the both of you, then made a run for it. Now, of course I would word it in such a way that left it open to be defended against, not that I can really think of a way Gren would be able to, but then again that bit would be on you to figure out. If I tried it one Gren now, Kalan would most likely just shoot Sarisa and I'd rather not have her killed.

Initially I had planned on throwing Sarisa's lightsaber at Kalan from a about a meter or two away, then using Force Stun on Gren, next round after that I would have used Gren's own lightsaber to kill/fatally wound her, before turning back to Kalan, most likely to evade gunfire of some kind. Take a hit or two, then use the Force to brake a tree limb from above, hurling it at Kalan as Sarisa moved to retreat, wounded but alive. Alas PvP never goes as one intents it to, adaptability is key to survival.​

Well she is an initiate after all, an initiate on the very verge of knighthood, but still young and somewhat raw in terms of experience. I'll admit she's pretty weak in terms of defensive abilities, but then she's basically a hammer, swinging the force about like it was just another club. I don't think force stun would be as effective as your thinking however, its a move that can be resisted with good willpower and effort. In front of a Sith, pretty much her life enemy, and if she had a fair bit of "mana" remaining, Gren would be pretty willing to feed said Sith a claw to the face and I think she could successfully resist an attack like that. After all, she's a headstrong hateful moderately powerful Jedi with plenty of vitality, not some random trooper, plus your char isn't exactly at the top of the charts in terms of power and experience either.

@Narsi I've been thinking, if your willing to indulge me, I'll edit out Sarisa's use of Force stealth so Gren would have a better chance at seeing through the Force Illusion. Then if you'd be so kind as to have Gren wield Sarisa's own blade, holding it to her throat, forcing Sarisa to surrender, I'd be most grateful. I thought of a witty comment Sarisa could say as she surrenders. It wouldn't work if Kalan was the one to do it.​

As for this, I was actually meaning to ask about your lightsaber. I wasn't able to find any info on it in the CS, what color is it? Any special properties?
And sure, you could do that, but I would avoid any witty comments.....Gren doesn't exactly need much in the way of motivation to kill a Sith.

 

[Prudence]

Problem Matt. You're still using Force stealth/invisibility which isn't really a thing. You can suppress your aura, but not physically hide.

 

[Undine]

As for this, I was actually meaning to ask about your lightsaber. I wasn't able to find any info on it in the CS, what color is it? Any special properties?
And sure, you could do that, but I would avoid any witty comments.....Gren doesn't exactly need much in the way of motivation to kill a Sith.

Are you sure you read the correct character sheet? One of the first things you see is a picture of Sarisa wielding a black metal lightsaber with a violet blade. No special properties.

The comment is't witty in the form of sarcastic, it's witty in the form of a double meaning. It's more of an observation than anything, and I highly doubt Gren would take any sort of offense by it.

Well she is an initiate after all, an initiate on the very verge of knighthood, but still young and somewhat raw in terms of experience. I'll admit she's pretty weak in terms of defensive abilities, but then she's basically a hammer, swinging the force about like it was just another club. I don't think force stun would be as effective as your thinking however, its a move that can be resisted with good willpower and effort. In front of a Sith, pretty much her life enemy, and if she had a fair bit of "mana" remaining, Gren would be pretty willing to feed said Sith a claw to the face and I think she could successfully resist an attack like that. After all, she's a headstrong hateful moderately powerful Jedi with plenty of vitality, not some random trooper, plus your char isn't exactly at the top of the charts in terms of power and experience either.

You said it yourself, your character is a hammer, one with no defenses against or experience dealing with an ability like Force Stun. I'm not arguing that Gren wouldn't be able to resist it, I think Force Stun is inherently weaker against Force Sensitives, but Gren would actually have to resist it, you can't just say it doesn't have an effect on her. Which takes some amount of time, an initiate resisting an ability from someone who's mastered that ability? It's not going to happen instantly, and that time would leave Gren open to attack. Also remember, Force stun doesn't just stop your movements, in fact that's just a side effect of what it actually does, it stuns your senses, dulls them or stuns then completely, leaving you in a state of sensory deprivation. I agree, Gren would be able to resist someone attempting to hold her in place, but I doubt she has the mental acuity to break free from sensory deprivation or to come out of a Force imbued catatonic state depending on which form of Force Stun was used, even if she did there is no way you could just say "her willpower let's her ignore it."

You intentionally created a character who is blunt and raw, a hammer, so in doing so you made her weak against characters like Sarisa who wield powers that Gren simply has no real solution for other than to pull at straws like willpower. The worst part of relying on willpower alone, is when it breaks, your left weaker than before not stronger. Given Gren's personality, I'm not sure relying on willpower is your best strategy for her in the long run, it would naturally lead her to the dark side. In the end, an attack is an attack, if you simply ignored someone who used Force Stun, and by ignore I mean offering no viable defense against it, then it hits you with it's full effect, just like when you don't evade a physical attack. Willpower works to a degree, best used to strengthen something else, but not viable on it's own. Your character's willpower is figurative, if your claimed Gren's super awesome willpower as a viable defense against an ability like Force Stasis, personally I'd contest it. I'm not saying I, or someone else, would win that dispute, but honestly, I doubt I wouldn't.

I'd use the timeskip to give Gren more experience with defensive Force abilities, Force of Will and Force Valor would pair nicely with Gren's more primal usage of the Force.​

 

[Narsi]

Are you sure you read the correct character sheet? One of the first things you see is a picture of Sarisa wielding a black metal lightsaber with a violet blade. No special properties.

The comment is't witty in the form of sarcastic, it's witty in the form of a double meaning. It's more of an observation than anything, and I highly doubt Gren would take any sort of offense by it.
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No I read that one, and I did see it. But you never clarified anything beyond that, and there wasn't a gear/possession section that gave definitive say on it. Considering you got it from a Sith, I thought I should at least double check before spitting out such a rare lightsaber color. As for the witty comment, Gren sorta takes offense at your mere existence, I would expect at least a haymaker to the face for any comment that isn't a surrender.

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You intentionally created a character who is blunt and raw, a hammer, so in doing so you made her weak against characters like Sarisa who wield powers that Gren simply has no real solution for other than to pull at straws like willpower. The worst part of relying on willpower alone, is when it breaks, your left weaker than before not stronger. Given Gren's personality, I'm not sure relying on willpower is your best strategy for her in the long run, it would naturally lead her to the dark side.
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Well there goes the suspense.

Anyways

Its funny, after making a punch of points about how willpower wouldn't be enough, you point me towards a power called FORCE OF WILL. Basically, its just using the force to protect yourself, pretty dang basic. Force Valor, also pretty basic, is just using the force to self augment. Gren could probably do both of these things fairly well already. She could pull up a decent shield if she really needed too. It would be rough and hasty concoction with no finesse but it would be there. Self augmentation is something she's already good at, so no need to learn that power. I would also point you towards a little something called force resistance, its one of the first things taught to Jedi, and its also pretty much made to defend against things like force stun and all that.

So I think I could offer a pretty decent defense, especially if you were going to use it when Gren was completely fresh like you were planning. Like, if ever she had a chance to defend against it, it would be in that kind of moment. She would most certainly be able to withstand it long enough to disrupt your chars concentration via force wave or telekinetic face punching.

 

[vamp]

Problem Matt. You're still using Force stealth/invisibility which isn't really a thing. You can suppress your aura, but not physically hide.

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[Undine]

No I read that one, and I did see it. But you never clarified anything beyond that, and there wasn't a gear/possession section that gave definitive say on it. Considering you got it from a Sith, I thought I should at least double check before spitting out such a rare lightsaber color. As for the witty comment, Gren sorta takes offense at your mere existence, I would expect at least a haymaker to the face for any comment that isn't a surrender.

It'd be an observation about her surrender, how how she finds the situation ironic. The exact wording I was gonna go for was "It's ironic, the last time that lightsaber was held to my throat I was the Jedi." Not sure how Gren would react to finding out Sarisa was once a Jedi, enraged, or hesitant? Either way, it serves my story driven purposes.​

 

[Prudence]

Requesting a 24 hr extension for our team so we can make sure all the edits are good and have time to post.

 

[Arcangel]

Extension Granted.

 

[Valen Pelora]

Everyone,

I have reported @Comrade Matt's post. We seem to be unable to get on the same page about everything, through no one's fault. This report is not a bad thing or disparaging to anyone. I simply thing we need some clarification and don't want to take anymore time with OOC posts. We can all agree the thread needs to move forward IC.

 

[vamp]

Everyone,

I have reported @Comrade Matt's post. We seem to be unable to get on the same page about everything, through no one's fault. This report is not a bad thing or disparaging to anyone. I simply thing we need some clarification and don't want to take anymore time with OOC posts. We can all agree the thread needs to move forward IC.

Oh

I don't really see what the problem is though. I've edited the post several times and it's really clear as to what I'm doing, when I'm doing it, and how I'm doing it.

Anyway, guess we'll wait for an admin ruling.

 

[Prudence]

@Arclight @Phoenix any update on this report?