OOC: Spirits in the Dark

[Valen Pelora]

Hello everyone! (@Prudence @Narsi @Zenya @Comrade Matt @Undine)

Like any good ol' fashion PVP we need an OOC. I have a couple of quick things I would like to address. I love bullet points so here they are. Thread link.

• Prude and Zebra will be joining us. Once they post we should probably establish a posting order. Either by "side" (Jedi then Sith), or by character.
• I thought Umbara was Sith controlled or had been the subject of some Sith activity (I might be remembering wrong). It doesn't really matter other then I look like a dingus.
• Since PVP has started NPCs (Sith spirits) can't be used to gain an advantage and would have negligible effects on any PCs.
• I am aware this is not an "official" Sith mission, but an Open mission done in a square counts towards that square. (Yes, I know squares are being changed post timeskip).

This brings me to the posts. I would like to clarify Narsi and I are on opposite sides of you.

• No issue with Comrade Matt's post.
• Undine's post: For clarification, the wrist moment rocket travels 40 meters in about 3 secs. So if you see it at 20 meters that gives you about 1.5 secs to pick up a rock with the Force, and hit the rocket with the rock. I don't find that very plausible. What size is the rock? How can you hit a smallish target moving that quickly with a rock? Are you using the rock as more of a shield? The blast radius of the rocket is 5 meters, meaning from end to end of the blast it's 10 meters (10 meter diameter blast, 5 meter outwards from point of impact/explosion). This would put you at the very edge of the blast and still likely to take some damage. Even if the rock negated the rocket, the shards of rock would likely fly backwards and would probably be pretty dangerous. I would ask that you edit your post. If we can't come to an agreement I'll report the post for a quick ruling

Posting order:
@Narsi
@Valen Pelora
@Undine
@Comrade Matt
@Ecclessey
@Zenya
@Prudence

 

[Eccles]

tbh, after reading the posts in question I'd say the rocket impacts before you'd be able to turn around and "notice the heat signature". At this distance such a heat signature wouldn't really be visible until it's too late. Best course of action is the "sense" it like you did and Force jump the hell away from your current position.

 

[Undine]

I am aware this is not an "official" Sith mission, but an Open mission done in a square counts towards that square. (Yes, I know squares are being changed post timeskip).

No it doesn't, as far as I know off, Sith faction leadership have no intention of taking Umbara, or that square. This thread isn't linked to any mission pack, invasion attempt, or war effort. It's two sith setting out to locate an object to further their own interests. Other than the fact that our PCs are sith, this thread doesn't involve the sith faction in any way. It doesn't effect the sith faction in anyway, nor will be used as a basis for taking Umbara or the square Umbara is in. It's my thread, not the sith faction's, it doesn't count because I don't want it to.
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I would like to clarify Narsi and I are on opposite sides of you.

I am aware of this, attack incoming from one direction, target identified in another direction, that's the exact reason Sarisa knows there are multiple attackers.
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Undine's post: For clarification, the wrist moment rocket travels 40 meters in about 3 secs. So if you see it at 20 meters that gives you about 1.5 secs to pick up a rock with the Force, and hit the rocket with the rock. I don't find that very plausible. What size is the rock? How can you hit a smallish target moving that quickly with a rock? Are you using the rock as more of a shield? The blast radius of the rocket is 5 meters, meaning from end to end of the blast it's 10 meters (10 meter diameter blast, 5 meter outwards from point of impact/explosion). This would put you at the very edge of the blast and still likely to take some damage. Even if the rock negated the rocket, the shards of rock would likely fly backwards and would probably be pretty dangerous. I would ask that you edit your post. If we can't come to an agreement I'll report the post for a quick ruling.

Before I edit anything I would appreciate it if you could provide a link to the tech write up for your wrist mounted rocket, as it isn't mentioned or linked on your character's profile, or in your post within the thread itself. I'd also ask that you slow down, 4 opponents jump into a thread without any warning and a one round in your already threatening to report my post? Chill dude, I'm all for some friendly pvp, but you don't have to be rude about it. I'm perfectly willing to edit my post, but the next time I misunderstand something, I'd appreciate it if you could just point me to the tech profile, or other relevant info, rather than threatening to report me.​

 

[Logan]

It's my thread, not the sith faction's, it doesn't count because I don't want it to.
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That's not how it works. Factions can more or less use eminent domain on any thread in a square as a prerequisite for points in said square.

center]Before I edit anything I would appreciate it if you could provide a link to the tech write up for your wrist mounted rocket, as it isn't mentioned or linked on your character's profile, or in your post within the thread itself.[/center]

Wrist rocket is generic tech. I'd reckon it is similar to the blast radius of a thermal detonator, which is 5 meters.

 

[Valen Pelora]

The wrist mounted rocket launcher was mentioned in the OOC of my first post. It is gen tech, no specific write up. I confirmed with staff on blast radius, max firing distance, and speed.

The report was not a threat, they make the threads move faster and not get bogged down in OOC if the parties do not agree. I don't view a report as a bad thing. Rather it allows the thread to move forward without a ton of outside arguing. Please let me know if you are going to make any edits.

 

[vamp]

Instead of the rock throw, maybe a more plausible reaction would be using the Force to change the direction of the rocket? I was originally gonna do that but got ninja'd by Undine.

 

[Undine]

@Valen Pelora Yeah I intend on making the edits. For future reference, I'm not the argumentative type, although I do prefer good old fashioned conversations. If an admin needs to get involved I consider myself to have wasted their time. That's not to say admin rulings aren't useful, but I try to keep from making it a necessity at every turn.

I'm also not like most people when it comes to PvP, I'm able to differentiate our characters from being opponents and us just being co-writers of a thread. As with any thread, I want an engaging story, not some trophy or PC's name to add to a list someone on my character's profile. That being said, this is a death enabled thread, just in case anyone isn't aware of that fact, consider everything your characters do carefully and be mindful of all PvP rules. I always reread the rules before entering into any form of PvP, I suggest everyone do the same.​

 

[vamp]

By the way, @Undine, I think you should change the thread from "Open" to "Ask", because personally I don't enjoy doing threads with more than 4 other people, and it will start to get overwhelming soon if people keep jumping in

 

[Undine]

Also, @Valen Pelora would you mind adding a link to the actual thread in the first post? Just to keep all reference points clean and easy to find.​

 

[Valen Pelora]

I have added the IC thread link. I would be fine with closing the thread after @Zenya and @Prudence join as they had previously planned on joining. @Ecclessey joining was a fun little surprise.

 

[Undine]

By the way, @Undine, I think you should change the thread from "Open" to "Ask", because personally I don't enjoy doing threads with more than 4 other people, and it will start to get overwhelming soon if people keep jumping in

Only if the other participants agree to it: Section V: Combat - Point I. Unofficial battles, as long as agreed upon by all parties, can be changed at any point of the thread's execution.

EDIT: Still need @Zenya @Prudence and @Ecclessey to agree, as of now I'm considering it an ASK thread until it's decided officially.​

 

[Eccles]

Yeah I'm cool with making it [Ask] after Joey en Zebra join.

 

[Undine]

That's not how it works. Factions can more or less use eminent domain on any thread in a square as a prerequisite for points in said square..

My mistake, I thought they had to be authorized by the faction's leadership and classified as a faction mission/battle before the thread was started.​

 

[Valen Pelora]

I would consider the thread [Ask] once Prude and Zebra join, assuming they don't object. I don't think either will.

 

[Undine]

@Valen Pelora Edits have been made.

Now I bid you all adieu, I need to get up for work in less than 8 hours, it is time for sleep.​

 

[Zenya]

I'm fine with making it an Ask thread.
Posting now~

 

[Valen Pelora]

Prude is going to post, then we can set the posting order.

 

[Undine]

I forgot to ask, @Ecclessey is your PC aligned with either side, or are they on their own? I'd love a potential ally, a 4v3 would be a hell of a lot easier then a 5v2 battle.​

 

[Narsi]

Well that's that
@Prudence has posted
So @Valen Pelora @Undine @Other people I presume I'm up now. Seems the posting order is fine to me at this point.

 

[Valen Pelora]

Just so we have it. I will add it to the OP OOC post.

Posting order:
@Narsi
@Valen Pelora
@Undine
@Comrade Matt
@Ecclessey
@Zenya
@Prudence