Lightsabers in DOTR

[Halcyon]

Wookieepedia doesn't say much about this type of crystal. Is there something unique to it beyond the silver color? Is there a reason why you can't simply say your lightsaber is a kyber crystal that created a silver blade?

My PC's Homeworld is Arkania, a snow planet that (arguably) looks like a white gem when seen from space. He was born and raised on Corellia though, home planet to the Halcyon Jedi who only use Durindfire - also, a white gem. I'm using that to explain how he came into contact with the Jedi, given the gem while on Corellia, and then sent to Arca Jeth's Praxeum on Arkania to be trained as Jedi.

A lot of plot is tied to this, such as the fact that Halcyon Jedi were sort of detached from the main Jedi Order's traditions and that ended playing a major role in him not being directly connected with the Light and Darkness War. Also, I'm planning a kind of a seer/animal-friendship with a "broken" Force connection, and have him form a bond with that particular crystal. Also, Durindfire can only be found on Tatooine and that, also plays a small part on his story - though I don't want to spoil it for you and anyone else who actually wants to take the time and read the backstory.

All of this, as you have surely noticed, is not Canon.

There's a lot more to it that just this, and playing it with a Kyber would ruin the whole plot. But I invite you to see that for yourself if and when you have the time. I've already posted the Biography split into chapters on the DoTR Workshop sub-forum. I'll be adding annotations on the next couple of days, to highlight the points that need to be revised by staff members or other RPers who want to have an appearance on my PC's background - with that in mind, some of the names, like that of his Jedi Master, were purposely left out. ATM I'm formatting the actual profile itself, and saving the work on my laptop so that I'll only edit and upload the whole thing once it's done; so, that first post is a total eyesore and I would stay clear of it if I were you! XP

The Bio itself though - aside from the missing annotations and the last chapter which I plan to leave open until DoTR comes out - is completely finished and formatted - in other words, it has nice pictures that go along with it! XD
I don't feel okay with posting a link to it here, because that would seem like promoting my own work, which is not my intention with my posts on this thread. But I'll be glad if you looked it up.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

My PC's Homeworld is Arkania, a snow planet that (arguably) looks like a white gem when seen from space. He was born and raised on Corellia though, home planet to the Halcyon Jedi who only use Durindfire - also, a white gem. I'm using that to explain how he came into contact with the Jedi, given the gem while on Corellia, and then sent to Arca Jeth's Praxeum on Arkania to be trained as Jedi.

A lot of plot is tied to this, such as the fact that Halcyon Jedi were sort of detached from the main Jedi Order's traditions and that ended playing a major role in him not being directly connected with the Light and Darkness War. Also, I'm planning a kind of a seer/animal-friendship with a "broken" Force connection, and have him form a bond with that particular crystal. Also, Durindfire can only be found on Tatooine and that, also plays a small part on his story - though I don't want to spoil it for you and anyone else who actually wants to take the time and read the backstory.

All of this, as you have surely noticed, is not Canon.

Indeed it's not, which unfortunately means we're not using that. None of that information like Arca Jeth, the Praxeum, or the Light and Darkness War is canon to our timeline or the backstory, so I'm afraid you'll have to revise it.

I know that's gotta suck after you've worked on it, but we've talked about how we're basing this in canon lore, not Legends lore, at length in the various announcements we've made about the timeline.

There's a lot more to it that just this, and playing it with a Kyber would ruin the whole plot.

Having established that the Legends lore you wanted to use is unusable, is the use of a kyber crystal still something that would ruin the plot? You could always tweak the backstory to be something that doesn't involve Legends lore without actually changing the backstory too, which would mean you could use a kyber crystal.

 

[Halcyon]

Argh, what a burn! Better to find out sooner than later. I'll start thinking of a workaround. No point in continuing this conversation here though.

 

[Kenico]

This was the only thread concerning this thought in my head so I'll post it here

I've been studying the Lightsaber Forms and from what I've read, listened, and observed, Shii-Cho, Form I, is the "Bread and Butter" of Lightsaber Training.

Yes I know that the concept of training...ish...is no longer moot, HOWEVER, as to note it in a character Sheet's Lightsaber Form Category, I would say that if you are an adept of the other six forms or are learning them...You are a MASTER of Form I, as from what I have learned, it is the BOOTCAMP of Lightsaber training. So what does this mean to future characters? In My honest opinion, I would either add Shii-Cho to your list of forms or reword that category to say "Lightsaber Form Preferences" Meaning that the characters is most preferential of a certain form so as to establish that Shii-Cho is their core training, but the Form they choose (in my character's case Shien/Djem-So) is their preferred style.

whew! but anyway, if I'm mistaken or that has already done please inform me and tell me what you think ^^

 

[Green Ranger]

There's a world of difference between knowing the fundamentals of Shii-Cho and being a master of it. Not to go on a Legends rant, but Kit Fisto was a Shii-Cho master, to such a degree that he was regarded as one of the best duelists in the Order. So while it's implied that every Jedi knows Shii-Cho to some degree, that doesn't mean they're a master of the form. There's a lot more to any martial art than the fundamentals.

 

[Kenico]

Forgive me Sensei...allow me to rephrase my statement. Since Shii-Cho would be the core of all Jedi/Sith/force sensitive training, it would be logical to have that on every character sheet that they have either a mastery or rudimentary knowledge of Shii-Cho.

 

[Hector Raegus]

There's a world of difference between knowing the fundamentals of Shii-Cho and being a master of it. Not to go on a Legends rant, but Kit Fisto was a Shii-Cho master, to such a degree that he was regarded as one of the best duelists in the Order. So while it's implied that every Jedi knows Shii-Cho to some degree, that doesn't mean they're a master of the form. There's a lot more to any martial art than the fundamentals.

Lol yes Kit Fisto, who lasted two strikes against his opponent. Lol that's why legends is really confusing.
Synthetic crystals do exist. They are mentioned multiple times in the visual dictionaries and in one of the Vader comics I think. Both of which are canon.

 

[Vosrik]

Lol yes Kit Fisto, who lasted two strikes against his opponent. Lol that's why legends is really confusing.
Synthetic crystals do exist. They are mentioned multiple times in the visual dictionaries and in one of the Vader comics I think. Both of which are canon.

As a matter of fact, although the movie showed him only lasting a minute or so against Palpatine, Kit Fisto actually held his own for quite some time in the book written for Revenge of the Sith. I don't think that book counted as legends, so I always refer to that since Kit Fisto is one of my favourite Jedi in the series.

 

[Halcyon]

Lol yes Kit Fisto, who lasted two strikes against his opponent. Lol that's why legends is really confusing.
Synthetic crystals do exist. They are mentioned multiple times in the visual dictionaries and in one of the Vader comics I think. Both of which are canon.

Sorry to burst your bubble dude. Check this one out: https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/678275796058771456
I hate it as much as you do, I think crystals have greater detail and significance in Legends, but hey a rule is a rule and they [Lucasfilm Story Group] are aiming for simplicity I guess - trading it for depth and richness of content. Oh well...

As for Kit Fisto, people tend to disregard the fact that Palpatine was an accomplished lightsaber duelist. Agen Kolar and Saesee Tiin, the other two Jedi accompanying Mace and Kit, were considered to be amongst the finest - Mace wouldn't have rookies accompany him - and they were slain in two consecutive strikes, in a single blow each. At least Kit lasted twice as long as those two.

It's not Kit's fault, Sidious was that good. Also, Canon is more than just the movies, as Vosrik pointed out.

 

[Ral]

Interesting, I'm curious to know more about Luke's lightsaber in new canon since his crystal was supposed to be synthetic.

Anyways, while the novelization are sorta canon, the movies still trump them. Ergo, Fisto only lasted two strikes against Sidious since that's what we see.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Pablo Hidalgo of the Lucasfilm Story Group has said that, canonically, there's no such thing as synthetic lightsaber crystals. So Luke's lightsaber has a kyber crystal.

 

[Saul]

Are there gonna be any restrictions to types of lightsabers, styles, colors? By the time we reach TPM all Jedi lightsaber colors are green snd blue except for one color, and they are all single blades for Jedi. Why does this happen? Will it be explained? Can we have whatever type of blade we want?

If you watch the Battle of Geonosis, one of the extras in the background uses two lightsabers then combines them together into a saber staff. What I mean by that is, as long as the blade is a straight line, you're good, make whatever you want. Be careful you don't cut your arms off swinging it. Crystals can be whatever color you want. Why? Because you can always make your own crystal in a forge and color it whatever. Just not black - UV/IR beyond the human visible spectrum would appear black to the human eye, though - and purple/red to creatures with the appropriate range of vision. Having special kinds of crystals from video games with +20 hit is great and all, but it doesn't have any impact on RP beyond aesthetics.

@Brandon Rhea - will we ever be allowed to have curved lightsabers? Like Katana's and Scimitars and what not?

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I have no issues with curved lightsabers.

In regards to black lightsabers - the darksaber is canon. Something to keep in mind.

 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Does that mean the red lightsaber crystals are naturally occurring now? If so, where?

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Does that mean the red lightsaber crystals are naturally occurring now? If so, where?

Crystals don't naturally come with a color. While a Jedi was building their lightsaber, the Force guided them to the specific crystal aligned with them (think of it like how wizards and witches in Harry Potter were aligned with particular wands). When they built their lightsaber, using the Force, the crystal was given whatever color was most appropriate for that Jedi. Generally the crystals became blue and green, but sometimes they'd be other colors like purple or yellow.

Canon hasn't shown the construction of a Sith lightsaber yet, but my guess is that the crystal turns red through the same process.

 

[StormWolf]

Red lightsaber crystals are also kind of a Sith staple according to the LFL. By "kinda", I mean they are. You wouldn't see a Jedi with a red lightsaber, I think, as that would sort of violate a major thematic nuance. When in doubt, look up the LFL that the costume clubs have to adhere to. Jedi are all earthtones and "cooler" colors where the Sith are blacks and greys with vibrant shades of red and purple, etc.

I'm torn on where Rhonan will be going once he reaches Knight. I'm tempted to do the saber/shoto that can combine into a staff, a la Into the Badlands. But at the same time, making a variation on the crossguard could be fun; angling the crossguard up and elongating the hilt to make it more of an actual claymore.

 

[Outlander]

I'd kinda like to see some EU designs or other custom creations once the new timeline starts. Nothing too crazy, but I remember thinking the idea of a blade mounted like a bayonet was pretty slick

(This is coming from a Mando Primary :P)

 

[Ral]

Pablo Hidalgo of the Lucasfilm Story Group has said that, canonically, there's no such thing as synthetic lightsaber crystals. So Luke's lightsaber has a kyber crystal.

Indeed, in Legends it was synthetic, but in new canon it would be a kyber crystal which means how he constructed it was somewhat differently. Did he go find a kyber crystal? Or did Obi-Wan have a spare lying around? I'm curious to see and read more about that.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Indeed, in Legends it was synthetic, but in new canon it would be a kyber crystal which means how he constructed it was somewhat differently. Did he go find a kyber crystal? Or did Obi-Wan have a spare lying around? I'm curious to see and read more about that.

They haven't told that story yet. My guess is that it'll be in the comics once the main Star Wars comic series gets into the era between Episodes V and VI.

 

[OhNoesBunnies]

Lovin' all this talk about lightsabers. Really opening my mind to how things work.

They haven't told that story yet. My guess is that it'll be in the comics once the main Star Wars comic series gets into the era between Episodes V and VI.

Just to get your attention SHE HAS A WHITE LIGHTSABER!? I haven't seen Rebels yet.