Galactic Empire restoration movement

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I was wondering if anyone would be interested in such a faction? Their main goal would technically be using guerrilla warfare tactics to overthrow the Sith and bring back the old ways of the galactic Empire. They will be operating within the Empire since this faction will obviously consist of Imperials who are against the Morales of the sith and want back an Empire similar to the one that existed before the Sith took over or similar to the Fel Empire.

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Why not just work with the Imperial Knights?
 

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Why not just work with the Imperial Knights?

The Imperial Knights are a force sensitive faction even though they still have non FS members. This faction is supposed to be similar to the Imperial rebels sub faction that didn't work due to inactivity back then. The only difference is that these guys will be operating within Imperial space and won't run to the GA. Also the Imperial Knights are more like an order that follow certain tenets like the Jedi and the Sith but these guys will be freedom fighters hellbent on kicking the sith out of Imperial space.
 

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You.. Realize the 'old style' Empire and the Sith have been fused since Arcturus was put in power, right? Sith have power, but so do the Imperials. People earn their place in the Empire, because that's how the Sith works anyway.
 

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You.. Realize the 'old style' Empire and the Sith have been fused since Arcturus was put in power, right? Sith have power, but so do the Imperials. People earn their place in the Empire, because that's how the Sith works anyway.

Well this group technically want the Sith out of Imperial space. Also fusing the old system does not change the fact that a lot of people would still believe that the Sith are still pulling the strings from behind, which is a thing that I see as a fact. I mean even if Imperial have power the Sith are still the dominant and more powerful group living within Imperial space.
 

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Well this group technically want the Sith out of Imperial space. Also fusing the old system does not change the fact that a lot of people would still believe that the Sith are still pulling the strings from behind, which is a thing that I see as a fact. I mean even if Imperial have power the Sith are still the dominant and more powerful group living within Imperial space.

So basically what people thought of the Imperial Knights before they lost power?
 

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Sam, I should hint to you to simply make an Imperial Character, rank him up, and work with the IK. Just work within the current system, and make it work in your favor. I believe the IK are planning a coup of the Sith leaders away from the Empire. That's what you're looking to do. So, help Weiss help you.
 

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The Imperial Knights are a force sensitive faction even though they still have non FS members. This faction is supposed to be similar to the Imperial rebels sub faction that didn't work due to inactivity back then. The only difference is that these guys will be operating within Imperial space and won't run to the GA. Also the Imperial Knights are more like an order that follow certain tenets like the Jedi and the Sith but these guys will be freedom fighters hellbent on kicking the sith out of Imperial space.
The Imperial Knights are sorta that. The only reason We're in GA Space is because Ships can cross the galaxy in a few hours to days and imperial space is enemy territory, it simply ain't safe to stay in there. Also The whole tenets and such is concept that's worn down. We're essentially terrorists with whom some have force powers who just take more care into not committing war crimes. Hell, We even have a few Knights or so who aren't even force sensitive.
 

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Sam, I should hint to you to simply make an Imperial Character, rank him up, and work with the IK. Just work within the current system, and make it work in your favor. I believe the IK are planning a coup of the Sith leaders away from the Empire. That's what you're looking to do. So, help Weiss help you.


I already have high ranked Imperial characters, but this not the point. My point is the fact that there should be a restoration movement working within the Imperial space and the IK do not really represent that. The IK haven't also done much since the beginning of the timeline so I am not sure why I should depend on them. I also don't think the IK have what it takes to start a coup, for a coup to start it would take high ranking officers from within the Empire to lead the the army to rebel against the Sith. Also the Sith have the support of a lot of Imperials recently since they have been doing well so far so it would take a lot to overthrow them.
 

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Well, the Imperial Knights are the closest thing the Imperials will get to a Jedi. And I doubt that you'd send a battalion of your best troops after a Sith Lord. You can't expect the IK to simply kill all the Sith either. Form an official alliance with them, and help them take the Sith down. I'll be glad to help if you need it, I wanted to make at least one of my characters a "loyal" Imperialist of some sort. Or maybe an IK, though I'm trying to get some non-FS characters under my belt, too. I'm still thinking it over though. I'll see.
 

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Well, the Imperial Knights are the closest thing the Imperials will get to a Jedi. And I doubt that you'd send a battalion of your best troops after a Sith Lord. You can't expect the IK to simply kill all the Sith either. Form an official alliance with them, and help them take the Sith down. I'll be glad to help if you need it, I wanted to make at least one of my characters a "loyal" Imperialist of some sort. Or maybe an IK, though I'm trying to get some non-FS characters under my belt, too. I'm still thinking it over though. I'll see.

This is actually what I plan on doing, that is of course if the IKs agreed on an Alliance. However; as you said it would take more than the IKs to start an Imperial civil war.
 

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Right now, due to reforms and actions, the Imperials are pretty happy with the Sith. Sith can't kill Imperials for no reason, Imperials got a lot more power... A Sith is in charge, but he's pro-Imperial as well as being a Sith. The Fel Empire had an FS Emperor in charge too, he just wasn't a Sith. So the only foothold you might have is people who just don't like Sith because they're Sith, despite the power advantage they give the Empire over other factions. There's no real reason for a coup.
 

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Well, if the IK deemed the new Emperor as corrupt, or simply a dark-sided person, the IK had to (it's actually in their job) to remove him from power. As far as the Imperial soldiers needing a better reason and such, well you know your faction better than I do so I can't really comment on that.
 

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Right now, due to reforms and actions, the Imperials are pretty happy with the Sith. Sith can't kill Imperials for no reason, Imperials got a lot more power... A Sith is in charge, but he's pro-Imperial as well as being a Sith. The Fel Empire had an FS Emperor in charge too, he just wasn't a Sith. So the only foothold you might have is people who just don't like Sith because they're Sith, despite the power advantage they give the Empire over other factions. There's no real reason for a coup.


Well as you said the sith are technically in charge, and normally some people would be upset over that. Also some people would still hold a grudge against what happened on Muunlist, I know that was a long time ago and under a different leadership but still some people wouldn't forget that easily what has been done under Sith rule. Also the Imperials do not have any Representative to represent them outside of the military, back then they had the grand vizier and the council of moffs.

Also people need to understand that those people turning against the sith rule would only be a small minority who would try to gain numbers over time.
 

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Yeah, they don't have a representative (besides Arc, who was raised Imperial) because of the previous leader. They could always petition for something and get that representative if Arcturus approved it. He has a lot of authority, lol.
 

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Except Arcturus had nothing to do with the bombing of Muunilinst, if I recall correctly. You're basically discriminating against the Sith. Oh, some guys before did some bad things. This guy's in the same group, so he must be bad too. People change and groups change. This isn't a struggle for returning power to the empire. It's a matter of discrimination, to look at it wholly.
 

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Except Arcturus had nothing to do with the bombing of Muunilinst, if I recall correctly. You're basically discriminating against the Sith. Oh, some guys before did some bad things. This guy's in the same group, so he must be bad too. People change and groups change. This isn't a struggle for returning power to the empire. It's a matter of discrimination, to look at it wholly.

Well it could be considered discrimination, but still the main goal of this group would actually be taking the powers from the sith order and give it back to the normally Imperials who existed before the sith came in. The main point of this is actually bringing down the so called Sith Imperium and bringing back the old Galactic Empire that we all know. Also what has happened on Muunlist is part of the sith way which hasn't changed and well Arcturus is a member of the Sith and this group would believe in the fact that Lightell is just a puppet used by the Sith to trick the Imperials into believing that they actually have powers within their own Empire.
 

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The Old Galactic Empire was ruled by force users, no matter how far back you look. They're what gave them power. >_> Weird-ass rebellion.
 

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Except Arcturus had nothing to do with the bombing of Muunilinst, if I recall correctly. You're basically discriminating against the Sith. Oh, some guys before did some bad things. This guy's in the same group, so he must be bad too. People change and groups change. This isn't a struggle for returning power to the empire. It's a matter of discrimination, to look at it wholly.

Yeah, but let's be fair here. It's not like the Sith don't have a millennia-long track record of genocide and general nastiness. If I lived in the Empire, I'd want them gone too. Sure, they might be acting nice now, but just wait until they no longer have any competitors.
 

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The Old Galactic Empire was ruled by force users, no matter how far back you look. They're what gave them power. >_> Weird-ass rebellion.

Well I am mainly talking about the Sith not force users. Unless you are of course talking about Palpatine and during Palpatine's era there were only two Sith lords not a whole order. The Imperial Knights on the other hand have always been part of the Empire so having a member of the IKs being the leader is a relatively different thing.

Edit: Also as solaris Said the sith do have a nasty record....especially when it comes to allies lol. They always end up deceiving everyone and betraying their friends.
 
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