Lightsabers in DOTR

Are there gonna be any restrictions to types of lightsabers, styles, colors? By the time we reach TPM all Jedi lightsaber colors are green snd blue except for one color, and they are all single blades for Jedi. Why does this happen? Will it be explained? Can we have whatever type of blade we want?

Just a note, but the Jedi Temple Guards do use double-bladed lightsaber pikes.

Oh well that's true. I was more thinking along the lines of spinning lightsabers and crossguards and lightsaber colors

I would say that the type of lightsaber a character uses is mostly for flavor so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

With that being said, I think all lightsabers should be replaced by pool noodles this timeline

Raydo said:

I would say that the type of lightsaber a character uses is mostly for flavor so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

With that being said, I think all lightsabers should be replaced by pool noodles this timeline

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I motion for all blasters to be replaced with Nerf guns as well.

Hector Raegus said:

Are there gonna be any restrictions to types of lightsabers, styles, colors? By the time we reach TPM all Jedi lightsaber colors are green snd blue except for one color, and they are all single blades for Jedi. Why does this happen? Will it be explained? Can we have whatever type of blade we want?

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Answering your question regarding colors.

At one point Jedi sabers were either blue or green because they were mostly made of Adegan crystals from Ilum, and those crystal could only produce blades of those two colors. They used mostly crystals from Ilum simply because they were abundant; prior to the discovery of crystals on that planet they had to resort to crystals from other planets on the Adega system and lightsaber were very rare.

Other Jedi preferred crystals from different sources, even different Adegan varieties. Many of those had different colors. But given time, because of Ilum popularity, some saber colors became a staple of certain Jedi branches such as blue for Jedi Guardians, green for Consulars, and Yellow for Sentinels. But those colors were not enforced.

Red colors for Sith blades comes from the fact that Sith used synthetic crystals on their lightsabers, simply because they were stronger and they discovered a way to mass produce them - which made them always produce a red color beam. While Sith used lightsabers purely as weapons, for the Jedi they also held symbolic meaning; hence why Sith did not (usually) care for the colors of their lightsabers but simply their power.
Even so, many Sith preferred other colors to red, and some Jedi - like Adi Gallia - had a red blade instead.

But that's all Legends. Canon, has no such things.

On Episode IV the colors were originally white and they added the blue and red on post-production to differentiate Jedi blades from Sith ones (Good guys and Bad Guys rather, because I don't think Jedi and Sith were a thing on Lucas' mind at the time - maybe I'm wrong). Then they changed Luke's to green simply to help it stand out against Tattoine's blue sky.

On the prequels they added more colors for diversity - as was being done on the EU before that. For example, Mace Windu's was the only purple one, because that's Samuel L. Jackson's favorite color, and he always wears a purple something on all his movies.

Hope that helps.

Regarding the hilt question; ny character is wielding a crossguard lightsaber, now this timeline is set waay before the clone wars and the cross saber is apparently an ancient design so it's okay. Though i don't know how these ruled apply to the spinning sabers since they are only shown in rebels (as far as i know) meaning that they might not have been created in this timeline

When it comes to spinning lightsabers, it's important to keep in mind why the Inquisitors use them. Jedi depend on internal balance with the Force. During the time of the Galactic Empire, a lightsaber that suddenly spins catches them off-guard because they've never seen anything like that before. It becomes a distraction for the Jedi that the Inquisitors can exploit and use to kill their prey. If spinning lightsabers are prevalent in this era, that advantage is negated and all you're left with is a fairly meaningless trick lightsaber.

The spinning lightsaber also compensates for the fact that the Inquisitors, although skilled combatants, are not as powerful as the Jedi. They depend on trick lightsabers in order to kill the Jedi survivors.

So, rules or not, I wouldn't use a spinning lightsaber. It's very much a product of the age of the Empire, and its applications have little relevance to our era.

By the sound of it, that kind of weapon is Imperial Era only. I did a little digging (though someone more versed could explain better lol) and the only reference to the quote "Double-Bladed Spinning Lightsaber" is in connection to the Inquisitors of the Galactic Empire and the era that it reigned.

EDIT: Plus what Brandon Rhea says...Trust the master, he is wisest of all :p

Lightsabers as weapons were introduced by the Sith (improving the design of Rakatan forcesabers). They were meant to be aggressive, and no other weapon of that era could effectively block a lightsaber. They were created strictly for violence and as such became symbols of fear. Jedi adopted the sabers after the Hyperspace War in order to better prepare for another Sith invasion - and we all know how many times that happened after that! XP

Anyways, IMO, Jedi were kinda forced into using sabers at first, and then kept using them as a tradition and symbol. At times of peace, they held lightsabers merely as symbol of status, only using them for defense - hence the sun djem, etc.
Sith kept viewing them merely as weapons and a means to attain more power, so they kept improving the designs. A Sith wants fast results, whereas a Jedi will rely on his focus and training.

They are polar opposites in everything; lightsaber modifications included. I don't think any Jedi (a strictly light one, not gray) ever resorted to things like curved-hilt sabers or force whips.

Making a spinning hilt saber work (lore-wise) on DoTR's setting would make for an interesting challenge though...

EDIT: I just realized my post made it seem like a Sith would have no problem using a spinning blade during DoTR, my bad.
The Brotherhood of Darkness were once Jedi, so it would only makes sense that they would use regular Jedi weapons, since they were trained with those. A weapon as specific as a spinning hilt needs a specific purpose, Brandon already illustrated that.
I meant to say that it would take a specific faction of Sith, with a specific purpose, to create such a specific weapon. The same specific design happening twice is not specific anymore... But that's IMO.

Keep in mind that our timeline adheres to official canon, so EU/Legends history - like lightsabers first being used as weapons by the Sith, the existence of the Rakata, etc - is not part of the new timeline.

Brandon Rhea said:

When it comes to spinning lightsabers, it's important to keep in mind why the Inquisitors use them. Jedi depend on internal balance with the Force. During the time of the Galactic Empire, a lightsaber that suddenly spins catches them off-guard because they've never seen anything like that before. It becomes a distraction for the Jedi that the Inquisitors can exploit and use to kill their prey. If spinning lightsabers are prevalent in this era, that advantage is negated and all you're left with is a fairly meaningless trick lightsaber.

The spinning lightsaber also compensates for the fact that the Inquisitors, although skilled combatants, are not as powerful as the Jedi. They depend on trick lightsabers in order to kill the Jedi survivors.

So, rules or not, I wouldn't use a spinning lightsaber. It's very much a product of the age of the Empire, and its applications have little relevance to our era.

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Just to expand on this, but I wanted to note that while there are no explicit rules forbidding those kinds of lightsabers, the general point of Bac's argument, that it's a fairly gimmicky design with only limited applications and generally relying on catching a Jedi off-guard make it fairly impractical in the RP, especially in freeform where that sort of thing doesn't really have as much impact or advantage as it would in a scripted film format.

So while there's nothing stopping you necessarily from using a design like that? There's no real benefit either.

Sense this timeline is getting back to really basic and more simplistic tech and armor. I would say stick to the rule of KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid).

Brandon Rhea said:

Keep in mind that our timeline adheres to official canon, so EU/Legends history - like lightsabers first being used as weapons by the Sith, the existence of the Rakata, etc - is not part of the new timeline.

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Oops, my bad, totally forgot that! Stuff like the Lightsaber Forms are not (literally) part of Canon, right? Legends add so much more depth to the whole lightsaber deal that I kept going back to that instead of sticking to Canon. (Like people do on small stuff like the forms, thanks to TOR, etc.).

Just another note. Ahsoka's lightsaber is slightly curved in Rebels. Not as much as Dooku's, but it is there.

MockaDash said:

Oops, my bad, totally forgot that! Stuff like the Lightsaber Forms are not (literally) part of Canon, right? Legends add so much more depth to the whole lightsaber deal that I kept going back to that instead of sticking to Canon. (Like people do on small stuff like the forms, thanks to TOR, etc.).

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Yes, lightsaber forms are canon.

Ok cool, I was thinking of using a hilt like Ezra's, only it doesn't shoot anything, it's just there to look nice.
As for the color part,It's just that there are so many colors being used, I think we should be sticking to ones we know are canon.
Red
Blue
Green
Yellow
White
Purple

People are going to want their fancy colors regardless. Though I would recommend obtaining the more exotic colors through hard work and roleplay.

While staying on the topic of Lightsaber crystals and the whole Canon/Legends deal, if I may, I'd like to share some doubts I'm having.
[Also, sorry for the long post.]

Point being that (as far as my knowledge goes, and of what I know that has been revealed regarding DoTR) everything surrounding the New Sith Wars - such as the Light and Darkness War, the Ruusan Campain, and even the Ruusan Reformation - are not a part of Canon; and, they will be the whole focus of the next timeline, or am I wrong? In fact, the entire story arc - let me call it that, in lieu of a better word - was created to bridge the gap between Old Republic and Golden Age Republic, i.e. C-Canon and G-Canon or EU and Lucas' movies (and the respective novelizations) if you'd prefer. After Disney Lucasfilm Story Group removing stuff and labeling it as Legends, there was no need to "bridge" anything anymore.
I did found a source saying that the reformation was briefly mentioned on Episode I, but I honestly cannot remember any direct reference to it on the movie, merely hints.

What I'm getting at is that stating that the website adheres to official Canon is not entirely true. And how could it be? A RP site is, IMO, a fandom. So the line between Canon and Legend becomes blurred.
Anyway, I don't want to jump the gun on what is being planned for DoTR and I don't want to start a debate on the subject - I apologize if it sounds like it - I just want to point out that with the new canon policy a lot of people everywhere (not just me) seems to be having trouble with distinguishing some vital information. Is there a place on this site (or on the web that the site adheres to) with a list of what is accepted and what isn't? Newcomers, myself included obviously, could greatly benefit from this.

As an addendum to my original post, for those who haven't noticed or simply didn't know, all crystals on Canon are Kyber crystals. Even those from Ilum. There are no such things as synthetic crystals, and the colors simply come from the meditation while building the lightsaber. I apologize for giving incomplete information.

Lastly, and concerning the PC I'm planning for DoTR, am I allowed to use a Durindfire crystal on the lightsaber? That's a big part of my Char's Bio and the point of several metaphors and innuendos that goes way beyond the color of the weapon's plasma beam. But apparently - and I hope I don't regret being the one to point this one out - is not a part of Canon...
I would really hate to have to redo the whole thing since I wrote approximately 25 pages of background already...

MockaDash said:

What I'm getting at is that stating that the website adheres to official Canon is not entirely true. And how could it be? A RP site is, IMO, a fandom. So the line between Canon and Legend becomes blurred.

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That's more of a misunderstanding of what we're saying. The lore that we pull from is official canon, but of course we're using that to make our own story. But while we use Legends planets and species, for example, we do not use Legends history.

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Anyway, I don't want to jump the gun on what is being planned for DoTR and I don't want to start a debate on the subject - I apologize if it sounds like it - I just want to point out that with the new canon policy a lot of people everywhere (not just me) seems to be having trouble with distinguishing some vital information. Is there a place on this site (or on the web that the site adheres to) with a list of what is accepted and what isn't? Newcomers, myself included obviously, could greatly benefit from this.

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We can work on that, but we're not going to go too in depth with it. Most people who are on the site or are going to be joining the site are not going to have as much familiarity with Legends, so we don't want to confuse those people either.

MockaDash said:

As an addendum to my original post, for those who haven't noticed or simply didn't know, all crystals on Canon are Kyber crystals. Even those from Ilum. There are no such things as synthetic crystals, and the colors simply come from the meditation while building the lightsaber. I apologize for giving incomplete information.

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Correct.

MockaDash said:

Lastly, and concerning the PC I'm planning for DoTR, am I allowed to use a Durindfire crystal on the lightsaber? That's a big part of my Char's Bio and the point of several metaphors and innuendos that goes way beyond the color of the weapon's plasma beam. But apparently - and I hope I don't regret being the one to point this one out - is not a part of Canon...
I would really hate to have to redo the whole thing since I wrote approximately 25 pages of background already...

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Wookieepedia doesn't say much about this type of crystal. Is there something unique to it beyond the silver color? Is there a reason why you can't simply say your lightsaber is a kyber crystal that created a silver blade?