Tran'Karn'Inrokini

[EnderM5]

BAD IDEA. DISCONTINUED. PLEASE SEE BELOW LINK FOR ACTUAL PROFILE.




NOTE: This profile will only be used in matters pertaining to after the time-skip. This is simply an updated version of my previous char, which can be found here:
http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/showthread.php?47616-Tran-Karn-Inrokini
Use the above to fill in any blanks in the biography, etc.


NAME: Tran'Karn'Inrokini Known aliases: The Master, the Program, Virus

FACTION: Retrade - TBD
RANK: TBD

(This area is completely N/A. To be explained later.)

STRENGTH: Depends on what he is controlling.
DEXTERITY: Depends on what he is controlling.
CONSTITUTION: There are no diseases or threats to Tran in the cyber world, so this is N/A.
INTELLIGENCE: 10/10 Tran made the ultimate sacrifice. His death, for a world filled with knowledge.
WISDOM: 8/10
CHARISMA: 9/10 Tran is incredibly manipulative, and a pathological liar.

SKILLS:
Able to hack into anything. Tran is literally, one with the computer.


STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES:
+Computer knowledge
+Manipulation
-If there are no networks around or no power, or if his only hard copy of his program is destroyed, then Tran will be killed.

PERSONALITY:
(Explained in previous character page.)

BIOGRAPHY:
(Mostly explained in previous character page.)

Spoiler: CRIMINAL RECORD

<<Criminal.net Loading>>

<<Loaded.
Insert query:>>

<<Query: "Tran'Karn'Inrokini" Accepted>>

<<Loading...
Loaded.>>

Tran'Karn'Inrokini

Believed to be responsible for the New Year's Eve Virus, which killed 50 people on Coruscant by changing the flow of traffic.
Believed to be the cause of the 50 MIA soldiers who investigated the point of original of the New Year's Eve Virus.
Believed to be an accomplice to the kidnapping of the Senator - Anita Ra'bak.
Believed to be an accomplice to the assassination of the Senator Anita Ra'bak's father, Michael Ra'bak.

<<End Page>>

Spoiler: What happened?

Here's what happened. After the gradual fall of the Chiss from the galactic table, the Hutts moved in to claim most of those areas. Tran began feeling rather bored with himself, so he began feeding himself information. Any information, gotten at any cost. He grew bored even with that, and realized, that even though his arm gave him direct linkage to a computer, he needed more. And so... he literally became a program. This is a flash-back, from the day of the surgery...

Pain. SO much pain. Ridiculous amounts, in fact. Any more of this, and Tran would go insane. He had already cut off both of his legs, to provide the first connections which would feed information to the program he was created, personality, speech, lifestyle, etc. However, to finalize the operation, he needed to further. Even farther. He was ready for the final step.

His hands shook as he made the incision into his skull. It went all the way around, from his forehead, above his ears, and back again. A robot next to him brought the skull up and out of sight. Another robot delicately placed connecting wires directly into his brain. Tran gritted his teeth, consoling himself with the fact that this was all necessary for the final step. He had to be awake for this step for the computer to get accurate readings. Once the straps binding his head were released, Tran screamed. Forever it seemed, until he finally succumbed to a deep sleep...

Tran got up early the next morning, double-checked the program, triple-checked it, and braced himself. He prayed to whatever gods were out there that they would let this work. Then, he raised the gun, put it under his chin, and fired.

----

Tran woke up, the machinery that was his new "body" coming to life. He was currently in the body of a lowly protocol droid. He tested out his speech synthesis, motors, etc. There was a hard copy of his program, stored on a thumb drive, that was currently implanted in his chest. Primitive, but reliable. He ordered a nearby droid that in 10 seconds, he should take out the thumb drive, and insert it into a datapad that was connected to a wireless network that was completely separate from the one he had been working on. Then, he fired a few bullets into his head, not destroying the program (himself) but simply destroying the droids capacitators.


----

Tran woke up again. He seemed to be in his old Chiss body, lying on the most comfortable couch he had ever felt. His body was free of any impurities, and felt pure. "Wow. I should have done this a while ago..." He walked up to an outline of a hand that read above, "To Control Center." Tran shrugged, and placed his hand on the outline.

There was a mael-storm of sounds, colors, and lights, and then... Tran was the network. He could close and open doors at will, his security cameras became his eyes, he found he could talk over the intercom at a thought, and on the screens, type what he wanted, all happening instantaneously, under his control. "Mine! This is all MINE!"
And Tran laughed.

 

[EnderM5]

Updated slightly.

 

[EnderM5]

Give me some feedback, guys!

 

[EnderM5]

Bump for feedback...

 

[Cassanova]

Well a few things.

1. Stop quadruple posting - it qualifies as spam, and is against our forum rules.
2. 12/10 intelligence? 120% intelligence, essentially yes? This is what we call a 'mary sue' character.
   

   Unstoppable slicer. Put me into a computer and its mine. Simple as that.

   Your application for the Ona'bak Retrade. Meet forum rules.
   

   B. In no way, shape or form are Mary Sues allowed on this site. Basically, a Mary Sue or a Gary Stue will have had nothing bad happen to them…ever. They’re the perfect characters, almost God-like, and they come into stories as either blessed saviors or dreadful conquerors. Nothing bad will ever happen to them and they will either save the galaxy or take it over, winning every war and every battle that comes their way. The term is also associated with characters who are exceptionally lucky, far beyond what can normally be considered realistic. The good luck may be in such common things as romance (Mary Sue always gets her man), adventure (Mary Sue always wins a fight or knows how to solve the puzzle) and popularity (everyone wants to be around Mary Sue). If there was one word that could sum up the ridiculous amount of power they have, it’d be “uber”.

Honestly while a cool concept, this character is (and i'm sorry if this is comes across as rude) ridiculous.
I can't even find a point to start...

 

[EnderM5]

Well a few things.

1. Stop quadruple posting - it qualifies as spam, and is against our forum rules.
2. 12/10 intelligence? 120% intelligence, essentially yes? This is what we call a 'mary sue' character.
   
   Your application for the Ona'bak Retrade. Meet forum rules.

Honestly while a cool concept, this character is (and i'm sorry if this is comes across as rude) ridiculous.
I can't even find a point to start...

It doesn't seem overpowered to me. The 12/10 was a typo lol. Should be 10/10.

How is my character uber?

Hint: Turn off the power...

 

[Cassanova]

SKILLS
Able to hack into anything. Tran is literally, one with the computer.

This is a prime example of what I mean when we're talking about "Mary Sue" characters. You can say he's good, but not perfect, etc.

STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES:
+Computer knowledge
+Manipulation
-If there are no networks around or no power, or if all of his hard copies of himself hidden throughout the galaxy are destroyed, then Tran will "die."

From were I'm sitting, this puts your character in a unique position to be very hard to kill. To the point of illegitimately so. Again, see "Mary Sue".

His hands shook as he made the incision into his skull. It went all the way around, from his forehead, above his ears, and back again. A robot next to him brought the skull up and out of sight. Another robot delicately placed connecting wires directly into his brain. Tran gritted his teeth, consoling himself with the fact that this was all necessary for the final step. He had to be awake for this step for the computer to get accurate readings. Once the straps binding his head were released, Tran screamed. Forever it seemed, until he finally succumbed to a deep sleep...

Tran got up early the next morning, double-checked the program, triple-checked it, and braced himself. He prayed to whatever gods were out there that they would let this work. Then, he raised the gun, put it under his chin, and fired.

The technology involved with performing something like this would probably require admin approval, or at minimum, a comment from an admin, as I'm not prepared to say, "sure that'll fly". Between this and the multiple back-ups that i've addressed earlier, your character is becoming more and more resilient to any forms of actually dying.

---

I'm sorry mate, but this profile does not, in my mind, come off as a 'fair' character in both resilience and skill set. Until I feel otherwise, my response to your application to join the Retrade will remain as rejected. If you'd like to get an administrator's opinion on the matter, specifically as my concerns lie with the technological side of it, I suggest you PM Jiang Winters and get his opinion on the matter.

- Cassa

 

[EnderM5]

This is a prime example of what I mean when we're talking about "Mary Sue" characters. You can say he's good, but not perfect, etc.


From were I'm sitting, this puts your character in a unique position to be very hard to kill. To the point of illegitimately so. Again, see "Mary Sue".


The technology involved with performing something like this would probably require admin approval, or at minimum, a comment from an admin, as I'm not prepared to say, "sure that'll fly". Between this and the multiple back-ups that i've addressed earlier, your character is becoming more and more resilient to any forms of actually dying.

---

I'm sorry mate, but this profile does not, in my mind, come off as a 'fair' character in both resilience and skill set. Until I feel otherwise, my response to your application to join the Retrade will remain as rejected. If you'd like to get an administrator's opinion on the matter, specifically as my concerns lie with the technological side of it, I suggest you PM Jiang Winters and get his opinion on the matter.

- Cassa

Paragraph #2) But how do you "legitimately" kill a program?

Tran is no longer a being that is able to be killed. He is a computer program, with Tran's personality as a human.

Paragraph #1) I don't really see how he's a Mary Sue. How do you beat a computer with the thinking and intuition of a Chiss, (a very smart one at that) at splicing?

It's like that BSG episode, (I don't know if you've seen it, but I'll assume you have because you're a geeky guy, and therefore are on this site) where Gaeta is attempting to stop the Cylons from hacking into the mainframe.

Saul brings up a good point, "How do you beat machines at hacking?"
Gaeta: "I'm not. All I can do is hold them off for as long as possible."

Paragraph #1+2)

Like stated before, if you want to stop Tran, for some time, then turn off the power.
Also, don't forget. They're hard copies, which means someone will have to reactivate Tran manually by plugging a drive in. So if nobody finds me, you're in luck. But if somebody does...

 

[Cassanova]

As I said.
I firmly believe this to be a case of requiring tech approval from Jiang.
Until either Jiang convinces me, or the profile becomes more fair to the site - and it doesn't matter if its been seen before, a lot of things are disallowed because of the format in which we use it - unless either of those two things happen, I'm not comfortable, nor obliged to admit this character into the Ona'bak Retrade.

 

[Silver Cutlass]

I think Cassa's on to something. The way you're describing it, it is impossible to turn a human being into a computer. A better way to go about would be the Lobot way. He had holes drilled into his skull, and has implanted a Borg Construct Aj-6, which sent nanothreads into the brain to form a link between the biocomputer unit and the cyborg. This is technology that is canon, and thus doesn't need approval, so if you changed it to something like this, it might be easier for people to accept.

Also, just because he's a computer doesn't mean he can hack into any computer. The computer is the thing doing the hacking, the hacker is only the person telling it to hack another computer, so just because he's a computer doesn't mean he can hack anything. I mean, my uncle has a super-computer almost, and he's a good coder/hacker, but I doubt he could hack into, like, the CIA or some such.

 

[Jiang Winters]

I think Cassa hit the nail on the head here - and, to a degree, so has Silver.

The concept behind this character is very interesting. I get a definite Ghost in the Shell vibe, which is great. However, you'd have to confine him to a single storage device for this to work. ie; no multiple copies, no ability to rapidly jump between bodies without physically transferring himself.

As it is, being virtual gives your character a tremendous advantage over every organic being on the site. Your character can die as many times as he has copies, and that's not really fair. Plus, as it is, your character is essentially a hacking god who can cleave through any security in his way. That also isn't going to work - he'll have to actually work to get into other computer systems, and like it or not there'll be security systems out there he just can't break. It might be because they're encoded in a way he's never seen before or because the language used is incomprehensible, or it might be because he ran into a well-designed set of safeguards and security protocols.

The point is that this character will have to fight and struggle to overcome security measures like anyone else. Sure, being a program will give him an advantage - but that is all. It is in no way a guarantee that he'll succeed each and every hack.

Anyways, getting back to the character. Right now the major stumbling block is that your character is, essentially, unkillable. You can fix that by simply restricting him to a robotic platform - perhaps he's uploaded to a powerful computer core that sits in the droid, and that can be physically transferred between frames depending on his needs. That'd allow him to jump around as he needed to, but if he got caught up in a fight then his core - and him, by extension - would still be vulnerable.

If you can do something like that, something that eliminates the hard copies and 'extra' Karns entirely and that makes him physically vulnerable, then we can carry on and start addressing some of the other concerns Silver and Cass have highlighted.

 

[EnderM5]

I think Cassa hit the nail on the head here - and, to a degree, so has Silver.

The concept behind this character is very interesting. I get a definite Ghost in the Shell vibe, which is great. However, you'd have to confine him to a single storage device for this to work. ie; no multiple copies, no ability to rapidly jump between bodies without physically transferring himself.

As it is, being virtual gives your character a tremendous advantage over every organic being on the site. Your character can die as many times as he has copies, and that's not really fair. Plus, as it is, your character is essentially a hacking god who can cleave through any security in his way. That also isn't going to work - he'll have to actually work to get into other computer systems, and like it or not there'll be security systems out there he just can't break. It might be because they're encoded in a way he's never seen before or because the language used is incomprehensible, or it might be because he ran into a well-designed set of safeguards and security protocols.

The point is that this character will have to fight and struggle to overcome security measures like anyone else. Sure, being a program will give him an advantage - but that is all. It is in no way a guarantee that he'll succeed each and every hack.

Anyways, getting back to the character. Right now the major stumbling block is that your character is, essentially, unkillable. You can fix that by simply restricting him to a robotic platform - perhaps he's uploaded to a powerful computer core that sits in the droid, and that can be physically transferred between frames depending on his needs. That'd allow him to jump around as he needed to, but if he got caught up in a fight then his core - and him, by extension - would still be vulnerable.

If you can do something like that, something that eliminates the hard copies and 'extra' Karns entirely and that makes him physically vulnerable, then we can carry on and start addressing some of the other concerns Silver and Cass have highlighted.

Hmm. Very well, then. I'll get rid of the extra copies, and make him restricted to one copy, and the need to be physically moved.

 

[EnderM5]

I think Cassa's on to something. The way you're describing it, it is impossible to turn a human being into a computer. A better way to go about would be the Lobot way. He had holes drilled into his skull, and has implanted a Borg Construct Aj-6, which sent nanothreads into the brain to form a link between the biocomputer unit and the cyborg. This is technology that is canon, and thus doesn't need approval, so if you changed it to something like this, it might be easier for people to accept.

Also, just because he's a computer doesn't mean he can hack into any computer. The computer is the thing doing the hacking, the hacker is only the person telling it to hack another computer, so just because he's a computer doesn't mean he can hack anything. I mean, my uncle has a super-computer almost, and he's a good coder/hacker, but I doubt he could hack into, like, the CIA or some such.

But my character, (who was extrememly good at hacking in the first place) is the computer. I stated this above. I have the computing power of a computer, along with the intuition and adaptability of a Chiss!

 

[EnderM5]

Oh, and sorry to triple post, but I can't seem to figure out how to quote multiple people at the same time. (Even though pressing multiquote...)

Check this character out, guys: This is who I'm trying to make here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puppet_Master_(Ghost_in_the_Shell)#Puppet_Master

 

[Dóiteán]

But my character, (who was extrememly good at hacking in the first place) is the computer. I stated this above. I have the computing power of a computer, along with the intuition and adaptability of a Chiss!

He still wouldn't be able to hack into everything. He could stay good at hacking but not capable of hacking everything easily.

 

[Cassanova]

...edit button dude... EDIT.

Per doitean, Jiang, and myself earlier: He needs to have limitations.
If you don't address this, the admins will get out here with the NERF-cannon.
NERF cannons turn your characters from badass guys with awesome skills into puddles of goo and smell of "average" in every way.

 

[Silver Cutlass]

R2-D2 is a computer. Yet he cannot hack into everything. And even if you're the computer, you'll still have limitations.

Really, think about it. You have various wires, machinery, and computer systems implanted into your head. But how the hell are you supposed to know how to operate it? You were born as a Chiss, a near-Human, sentient being. If you had you're brain ripped out and replaced with a chunk of machinery, are you really going to know from the get-go how to operate it?

 

[Indigo]

I think it might help if we had a real life "hacking" lesson, to explain why the relative processing power of whatever is doing the hacking doesn't matter.

In the real world, there are ways of encrypting and sealing data (AES is an example) that, if used properly, can be used by a laptop trivially to encrypt and decrypt data, so long as it has the password. Without the password, every computer on earth working together wouldn't crack it before the sun goes out, no matter how powerful, and this assumes you have *total* knowledge of how AES works. Without the knowledge of how the data was encrypted there is no way to crack it reasonably.

Now, I've always assumed that a slicer is performing what is commonly known as a 'man in the middle' attack, whereby when the console sets up communications with whatever it's sending signals to, you intercept the first one, which allows you to (assuming it's unsigned) get the keys you need and from there you can read and send fake messages back and forth. Note that these are *gross* simplification, but this is how data security works in the real world.

The thing is, the man in the middle attack requires no significant computational power. In this day & age, any reasonable way of breaking into data can be done either quickly or not at all, and it's all based on the keys, or passwords, that are used. Note there are potentially other ways to exploit different kind of cyphers, but those are cypher specific. Another assumption in the star wars universe is that there is no universal standard on how to seal data, which allows for many computers to be insecure because the owner doesn't *know* how to construct any more secure cyphers.

I hope this helps you understand why your character can exist without the ability to slip into any computer trivially. On a lighter note, hello another Inrokini member! Depending on the time frame of this guy, he might know Sentelin, which could be interesting.

 

[EnderM5]

Fine... I'll limit him. On second thought, this was rather a strange idea. Maybe I'll throw this whole "person into program" thing in the trash... Hmm...

Come to think of it, I rather enjoy having a body.

 

[Gaja]

Maybe just archive this thing and write something new? Or make some big time edits.

I think an expect slicer, Chiss, Human or droid, would be an interesting addition to the forum. Maybe a cyborg?