To Find a Myth

[The Good Doctor]

3 Plots, With the addition of three more people.

Hey there, just jumping in to help clear things up; a plot consists of multiple threads. So when they say that finding this world would be a plot by itself, they mean it would take multiple threads to find the world, instead of just one.

So in short: A plot = a series of threads.

 

[Xanthum the Mighty]

Hey there, just jumping in to help clear things up; a plot consists of multiple threads. So when they say that finding this world would be a plot by itself, they mean it would take multiple threads to find the world, instead of just one.

So in short: A plot = a series of threads.

Right thats my bad. Threads

 

[Darasuum]

I think you are confusing plots and threads.

Edit: i see FTL cleared that up already.

 

[Xanthum the Mighty]

Right, I've done what I could.

 

[The Good Doctor]

Here is my advice from a player's standpoint:

My suggested outline is

Thread 1: your character gathers with all the participants involved, discusses what they are going to do. Maybe your character hears a rumor that there might be a star map located on a different planet .etc
Thread 2. Your group looks on which ever planet to look for a star map. Rolling dice to find it
Thread 3 If dice does not go well for the above thread, then they look somewhere else. Rolling dice.
Thread 4. Your group, now knowing the location of the planet, now make their way towards it towards it. (Diced for dangers onroute and arrival, as the Unknown Regions is pretty dangerous to navigate)

Taking over the planet outright would require a different plot I think then just that. And it would also need a faction to do it (and thus a write-up). Also adding in advanced tech rewards for everyone would also necessitate more threads for the plot (it should also be specified which tech pieces people are getting, links to the write-ups .etc) You can choose to include them, or take them out (everyone still involved gets credits on plot completion approval towards leveling up)

Be sure the original update is all the way updated when you finish editing. It reads like there might be four threads (is the gathering on Alderaan supposed to be thread 1?) but it only lists three. And then says

Find a way inside of the illusive sphere, and gradually take over its internal components until Iokath is firmly in the hands of the Society. (However, I believe this might take two or more plots to secure since Iokath is such a massive and risky target to pick out.)"

then says the end-game of this plot is for the planet to be yours.

Anyways, I don't have any power over in this area, but I hope this advice helps.

 

[Xanthum the Mighty]

Here is my advice from a player's standpoint:

My suggested outline is



Taking over the planet outright would require a different plot I think then just that. And it would also need a faction to do it (and thus a write-up). Also adding in advanced tech rewards for everyone would also necessitate more threads for the plot (it should also be specified which tech pieces people are getting, links to the write-ups .etc) You can choose to include them, or take them out (everyone still involved gets credits on plot completion approval towards leveling up)

Be sure the original update is all the way updated when you finish editing. It reads like there might be four threads (is the gathering on Alderaan supposed to be thread 1?) but it only lists three. And then says then says the end-game of this plot is for the planet to be yours.

Anyways, I don't have any power over in this area, but I hope this advice helps.

Right, It did. But Im not sure if everything is currently up to standard.

The faction bit, Is still being written up and is about 38% done. I would prefer it honestly if the faction requirement was null as the write up faction Im working on will be simply addressed as the "Society" until the write up is finished and approved. Which may be a long while yet.

 

[Darasuum]

I'm going to probably ask that you take a look at what you have typed up. Look at the base questions in the plot template. Do you provide a simple and clear answer to each of those areas?

As it has been said. Iokath is its own plot to get there. That would mean if your objective is to get to there then that would be a character plot. Or you can just choose a different planet if your objective is actual tech.

Seeing as this is your first plot I would advise doing something simple like getting one piece of tech per person. State clearly that each person has one specific piece of tech that they want. Make sure you link your desired piece of tech. I also advise that it not be something super difficult.

Too many people in one plot can be a hassle and it will be time consuming and undoubtedly make it more complicated to review as well. So 2-3 people getting one piece of Advanced tech each over the course of a 2-4 thread plot is what I advise and I would personally choose the smaller of those numbers.

Iokath being a location just adds to the complications of this plot. If you want to find Iokath, make that a character plot and that be the sole objective.

Normally people put in the first bit a short summary of what is going to happen in the plot as a whole. Down in the In-Character Timeline they state what is going to happen in that specific thread AND the objective. Not just the objective. How are they going to find the starmaps. What planet are they going to be traveling to to find these starmaps? Are they going to just be walking down the street on Nar Shadda and see a pawn shop and buy the starmaps from some guy? Are they going to be in some high stakes poker game with an ex mobster in a floating resort island?

It seems like you want to reward your participants by dice roll which I am just going to flat out say is not going to fly. That is an added level of complication and the way it reads is like you want it to be like a faction reward. The desire to "gain Iokath" combining with "founding a secret society" while also not being a faction and some substantially difficult to acquire AT in your list all makes what you have too little for those rewards. If this plot was in faction plots and also all the threads were either staff DMed opposition (that means there's death enabled scenarios) or open PVP then that would be enough considering plots have a cap of 6 threads.

Each character can have a character plot, tech plot, and faction plot that they are leading to be going simultaneously. If you want your character to chart a path to Iokath you can do that. Make that its own plot where the reward is charting Iokath. If you want a ship for your character make a plot for that and ONLY that. If you want to found a secret society and have it set in roots or base of operations then make that a plot. Right now it just seems like you're trying to accomplish too much in a single plot so decide on what you want to prioritize.

 

[Xanthum the Mighty]

I'm going to probably ask that you take a look at what you have typed up. Look at the base questions in the plot template. Do you provide a simple and clear answer to each of those areas?

As it has been said. Iokath is its own plot to get there. That would mean if your objective is to get to there then that would be a character plot. Or you can just choose a different planet if your objective is actual tech.

Seeing as this is your first plot I would advise doing something simple like getting one piece of tech per person. State clearly that each person has one specific piece of tech that they want. Make sure you link your desired piece of tech. I also advise that it not be something super difficult.

Too many people in one plot can be a hassle and it will be time consuming and undoubtedly make it more complicated to review as well. So 2-3 people getting one piece of Advanced tech each over the course of a 2-4 thread plot is what I advise and I would personally choose the smaller of those numbers.

Iokath being a location just adds to the complications of this plot. If you want to find Iokath, make that a character plot and that be the sole objective.

Normally people put in the first bit a short summary of what is going to happen in the plot as a whole. Down in the In-Character Timeline they state what is going to happen in that specific thread AND the objective. Not just the objective. How are they going to find the starmaps. What planet are they going to be traveling to to find these starmaps? Are they going to just be walking down the street on Nar Shadda and see a pawn shop and buy the starmaps from some guy? Are they going to be in some high stakes poker game with an ex mobster in a floating resort island?

It seems like you want to reward your participants by dice roll which I am just going to flat out say is not going to fly. That is an added level of complication and the way it reads is like you want it to be like a faction reward. The desire to "gain Iokath" combining with "founding a secret society" while also not being a faction and some substantially difficult to acquire AT in your list all makes what you have too little for those rewards. If this plot was in faction plots and also all the threads were either staff DMed opposition (that means there's death enabled scenarios) or open PVP then that would be enough considering plots have a cap of 6 threads.

Each character can have a character plot, tech plot, and faction plot that they are leading to be going simultaneously. If you want your character to chart a path to Iokath you can do that. Make that its own plot where the reward is charting Iokath. If you want a ship for your character make a plot for that and ONLY that. If you want to found a secret society and have it set in roots or base of operations then make that a plot. Right now it just seems like you're trying to accomplish too much in a single plot so decide on what you want to prioritize.

Right I see where you're coming from. I was thinking this was to be a plot line. Where this was to be the outline for the various plots in store. I'll refine it and change the name so that it reflects what I want to do. That being, finding the Star Maps.

 

[Xanthum the Mighty]

Name changed, and refined so that we're just looking for the starmaps. The first of many plots. I hope this works out.

 

[The Good Doctor]

Name changed, and refined so that we're just looking for the starmaps. The first of many plots. I hope this works out.

If you're just looking for the star maps the list of tech desired is still there?

And can you list the opposition type for each thread (dice/dm/open-pvp .etc) for when the reviewer gets back to this? It got lost in the edits.

 

[Xanthum the Mighty]

If you're just looking for the star maps the list of tech desired is still there?

And can you list the opposition type for each thread (dice/dm/open-pvp .etc) for when the reviewer gets back to this? It got lost in the edits.

Sure, I'll get to it now. I'll respond again once its finished.

 

[Xanthum the Mighty]

If you're just looking for the star maps the list of tech desired is still there?

And can you list the opposition type for each thread (dice/dm/open-pvp .etc) for when the reviewer gets back to this? It got lost in the edits.

Yes, I'd like to keep the tech.

And its set.

 

[The Good Doctor]

Be sure to keep in mind what Dara said about the tech, especially (but not only) the last paragraph.

Each character can have a character plot, tech plot, and faction plot that they are leading to be going simultaneously. If you want your character to chart a path to Iokath you can do that. Make that its own plot where the reward is charting Iokath. If you want a ship for your character make a plot for that and ONLY that. If you want to found a secret society and have it set in roots or base of operations then make that a plot. Right now it just seems like you're trying to accomplish too much in a single plot so decide on what you want to prioritize.

I'm not sure if the tech list for the ships is a choice one of those per person or if it's one of those given overall, but either way still i'll have to point you to what was said above. Just for reference the PC-led indie faction Blackwell had to do one plot for each of their locations/bases/assets. Clan Solus when they were a small Mando clan did a plot with 3 open-pvp threads for one corvette (not a frigate or crusier, or anything else with that)

Tbh all the tech the plot is asking for is the only thing I see holding back the plot at the moment. If this is only for the star map, then this could be moved to character plots. That would leave your tech plot slot for you to pursue a tech plot other tech things and you'd have the faction plot slot open for the Hammerhead capital ship and setting up of the group potentially). Also, since you are aiming to make a indie faction here are probably other players who can make plots to gather tech/assets as well.

 

[Xanthum the Mighty]

Be sure to keep in mind what Dara said about the tech, especially (but not only) the last paragraph.



I'm not sure if the tech list for the ships is a choice one of those per person or if it's one of those given overall, but either way still i'll have to point you to what was said above. Just for reference the PC-led indie faction Blackwell had to do one plot for each of their locations/bases/assets. Clan Solus when they were a small Mando clan did a plot with 3 open-pvp threads for one corvette (not a frigate or crusier, or anything else with that)

Tbh all the tech the plot is asking for is the only thing I see holding back the plot at the moment. If this is only for the star map, then this could be moved to character plots. That would leave your tech plot slot for you to pursue a tech plot other tech things and you'd have the faction plot slot open for the Hammerhead capital ship and setting up of the group potentially). Also, since you are aiming to make a indie faction here are probably other players who can make plots to gather tech/assets as well.

Ships have been removed.

 

[Darasuum]

So you still are after starmaps in this plot. Your threads have yet to change. If the premise is to get tech then you should be doing threads to get tech, not starmaps.

The descriptions you give for the individual threads is a bit lacking.

1. your first thread "The team will converge on where the starmaps is located (Dice)" Doesn't tell me anything about what they will be facing or any sort of opoision other than that you will be using dice. Is there any actual difficulty in this thread. Is this going to take place on Yavin because that's the only planet you have listed in locations.
2. The third thread is to download and secure data. How is that going to go? Are they just standing around waiting for the load bar on the screen to go from 1% to 2% to 3% etc?

Again, choose one type of objective. Are you after technology or are you after starmaps. Choose one. Tech plots are for tech. Faction or character plots are for the others. We can move this thread to the proper subforum if need be but you need to decide on what you want for one plot. Once you decide on that I'll look at the rest of it.

 

[Xanthum the Mighty]

So you still are after starmaps in this plot. Your threads have yet to change. If the premise is to get tech then you should be doing threads to get tech, not starmaps.

The descriptions you give for the individual threads is a bit lacking.

1. your first thread "The team will converge on where the starmaps is located (Dice)" Doesn't tell me anything about what they will be facing or any sort of opoision other than that you will be using dice. Is there any actual difficulty in this thread. Is this going to take place on Yavin because that's the only planet you have listed in locations.
2. The third thread is to download and secure data. How is that going to go? Are they just standing around waiting for the load bar on the screen to go from 1% to 2% to 3% etc?

Again, choose one type of objective. Are you after technology or are you after starmaps. Choose one. Tech plots are for tech. Faction or character plots are for the others. We can move this thread to the proper subforum if need be but you need to decide on what you want for one plot. Once you decide on that I'll look at the rest of it.

Refined even more.

 

[Darasuum]

You have three threads but four planets. Are you planning on starting on one planet and then in the same thread traveling to another planet? Which threads take place on which planet or are you going to each planet once in each thread?

 

[Xanthum the Mighty]

You have three threads but four planets. Are you planning on starting on one planet and then in the same thread traveling to another planet? Which threads take place on which planet or are you going to each planet once in each thread?

Starting on one then to the others

 

[Darasuum]

I'm going to go ahead and reject this plot. There are still too many people for this to be ok.

You also still have state you are getting star maps for yourself and there are two other rewards and don't state who is getting what.

IC still lacks details and I think the repeating of what has already been said doesn't need to happen.

This has become a very complicated and I think confusing plot submission so feel free to try again, with a much more simple and singular goal and we'll take it from there.