Senate RP

[Kit]

Also, even if the attack had been concentrated on Metellos, the attack would have probably still failed as it would not have had enough ships to defeat a concentrated defense of the planet as only 30 capital ships were even involved at Bessimir and Ruan.

You forgot to mention the daring and handsome commander of the fleet there. More than anything, I think his dashing brand of heroism and swearing won the day.

 

[Matt]

Sorry Calist but your strategy was god awful.

You willingly overstretched your forces

 

[Ols]

If it means lightning war in German, then it stands for lightning war.

No. EG stands for exempli gratia. ASAP stands for as soon as possible. PS stands for post scriptam. Blitzkreig means lightning war.

Anyways, they launched various attacks simultaneously as they invaded France, Belgium, the Netherlands, and Luxemborg all in one stroke. Same with Barbarossa where they attacked across the entire front.

Not quite the same as your strategy...

Plus, when there is no significant resistance and time is not on your side, it would be best to expand as quickly as possible.

Yes, because the republic would give no resistance at all in defending it's own world's. Seriously, who's giving you this tactical advice?

Also, even if the attack had been concentrated on Metellos, the attack would have probably still failed as it would not have had enough ships to defeat a concentrated defense of the planet as only 30 capital ships were even involved at Bessimir and Ruan.

That makes no sense. The attack was concentrated at Metellos and you still lost.

 

[Tsar Fire]

No. EG stands for exempli gratia. ASAP stands for as soon as possible. PS stands for post scriptam. Blitzkreig means lightning war.

Isn't that what cailst said?

 

[Cailst]

No. EG stands for exempli gratia. ASAP stands for as soon as possible. PS stands for post scriptam. Blitzkreig means lightning war.

Not quite the same as your strategy...

Yes, because the republic would give no resistance at all in defending it's own world's. Seriously, who's giving you this tactical advice?

That makes no sense. The attack was concentrated at Metellos and you still lost.

They were three attacks in very close proximity to each other, I wasn't attacking Kuat, Ossus, and Alderaan which are very far apart.

Also, I figured they wouldn't be defended as the military of the Republic was attacked only very recently and would be attempting to recover. It would have been dumb for the Republic to put much of a defense there as they would have been overwhelmed. However, those three months changed a lot. I didn't think 3 months had passed which gave the Republic plenty of time to intercept Alsakan plans and refit the fleet so that it could defend unimportant planets.

Exactly, it didn't fail because it was lacked a lot of direction, it lost because it would have never been able to conquer that planet unless I put the entire Alsakan fleet there which would have been dumb.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Only a small part of the Republic fleet was at Coruscant, so it didn't really need to recover.

 

[Cailst]

Only a small part of the Republic fleet was at Coruscant, so it didn't really need to recover.

While a lot of it wouldn't have been destroyed, wouldn't a lot of it need to be built and refitted as fleets would be a costly investment in a time of peace?

 

[Ols]

While a lot of it wouldn't have been destroyed, wouldn't a lot of it need to be built and refitted as fleets would be a costly investment in a time of peace?

The Republic has a military. The fleets are spread far across the galaxy but there's still there. And it doesn't take that long for them to be moved.

 

[Cailst]

The Republic has a military. The fleets are spread far across the galaxy but there's still there. And it doesn't take that long for them to be moved.

While they obviously had a military, I expected it to be at about the same strength of the Alsakan military at the beginning as there would be little need for it. However, in three months, I figured its effective stength could have grown a lot as the Republic would probably have a lot of mothballed ships that needed to be refit.

 

[Matt]

Yes but the republic has all of the major shipbuilding facilities.

Kaut and Fonder would off begun pumping out ships ASAP

 

[Cailst]

Yes but the republic has all of the major shipbuilding facilities.

Kaut and Fonder would off begun pumping out ships ASAP

How fast do they build ships? And what would be the cost of maintaining a ship?

 

[Green Ranger]

More importantly, why is this important? Either way, Alsakan is screwed now, so arguing about how many ships the Republic is churning out is meaningless.

 

[Cailst]

More importantly, why is this important? Either way, Alsakan is screwed now, so arguing about how many ships the Republic is churning out is meaningless.

Because I was originally making the point that I made the decisions that I did based on false information and the Alsakan Union suffered. Nevertheless, I tried to make the best of my initial mistake.

Since now there is a precedent, I was suggesting that Ols simply try to make the best of his mistake of alienating the Jedi.

 

[Ser Gregor]

Since now there is a precedent, I was suggesting that Ols simply try to make the best of his mistake of alienating the Jedi.

It's different now. You simply assumed we were immediately after the events of Coruscant, which was a mistake fully on your part, as taking into consideration the many events that took place, it wouldn't make sense to have such a short time pass.

Ols was given these numbers by members of the Faithless, the Jedi, and other veteran's 'in the know'.

 

[Cailst]

It's different now. You simply assumed we were immediately after the events of Coruscant, which was a mistake fully on your part, as taking into consideration the many events that took place, it wouldn't make sense to have such a short time pass.

What events? I don't remember any major events that occurred in between the death of the Vicar and the ascension of Van Tien.

The only two events that could have happened were botched, the nuclear attack on Alsakan and Van Tien trying to rile up the Alsakan military into doing something rather than nothing.

 

[Ols]

What events? I don't remember any major events that occurred in between the death of the Vicar and the ascension of Van Tien.

The only two events that could have happened were botched, the nuclear attack on Alsakan and Van Tien trying to rile up the Alsakan military into doing something rather than nothing.

The events occurring between the invasion of Coruscant and Van Tien's order include meetings between the Republic and Jedi, the Alsakans and Jedi, and the assassination of the Vicar, amongst others.

 

[Cailst]

The events occurring between the invasion of Coruscant and Van Tien's order include meetings between the Republic and Jedi, the Alsakans and Jedi, and the assassination of the Vicar, amongst others.

Those should have taken a week or two at most. Not taken three or so months. I would say it would be unlikely for a relatively small fleet to turn into a 900 ship monster as well as it would be difficult for Alsakan orders to be intercepted by Republic spies.

Plus, I was saying that just about nothing important happened after the assassination and before the ascension of Van Tien, nothing that would have truly justified 3 months of time passing.

 

[Ols]

Those should have taken a week or two at most. Not taken three or so months. I would say it would be unlikely for a relatively small fleet to turn into a 900 ship monster as well as it would be difficult for Alsakan orders to be intercepted by Republic spies.

Plus, I was saying that just about nothing important happened after the assassination and before the ascension of Van Tien, nothing that would have truly justified 3 months of time passing.

We agreed the numbers of ships well before the battles began. And you're also assuming that one event is happening the second the other ends. Things take time, and it was generally accepted, given the amount of non-main thread stuff that had gone on in the Story board that at least a few months had passed.

 

[Cailst]

We agreed the numbers of ships well before the battles began. And you're also assuming that one event is happening the second the other ends. Things take time, and it was generally accepted, given the amount of non-main thread stuff that had gone on in the Story board that at least a few months had passed.

I accepted those numbers because I thought that was the total number of ships but that most were unprepared and currently useless.

As for any general assumptions of time passing, I don't recall ever seeing anything that said that a lot of time had passed. All I remember it saying was that the main RP was really inactive and that something needed to happen. However, until later, I never saw anything saying that 3 months had passed.

 

[Ols]

I accepted those numbers because I thought that was the total number of ships but that most were unprepared and currently useless.

As for any general assumptions of time passing, I don't recall ever seeing anything that said that a lot of time had passed. All I remember it saying was that the main RP was really inactive and that something needed to happen. However, until later, I never saw anything saying that 3 months had passed.

I did not say that the majority of my ships were in such a state, nor have you mentioned it until now. So if that really was a term you should really have stated it at the time.

And loads of stuff was happening, just not between the republic and Alsakans. You can't expect everyone to agree no time is passing because no major battles are occurring.