Santa and Jesus Both White, According to FOX News

[Kiro]

Each time I look at this title name, I see "Satan and Jesus both White,"...

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I can't believe you people actually dignified FOX's War on Christmas stupidity with a 20+ post thread.

 

[Rom]

Bac the War on Christmas is a very real threat to the fabric of America's societal values. Can you imagine a world where we have to say Happy Holidays even though there are no more holidays between Hanukkah (since that ended on the fifth) and our glorious christmas? It's Merry Christmas and the rest of you baby jesus hating #&@% can just get out of Ameri.....

Okay, I can't. This is ridiculous and everything Faux News does should be regarded with an grain of salt and disdain

 

[RhanTegoth]

Well, i haven't looked at the video (no subtitles = no looking for me), but from what i've just read, i see that news' subjects are as interesting on US television than here in France.

"Jesus is white". Well, for my part, i don't really picture him being green or blue. And as someone stated before (Malon i think), Jesus was Jewish and from Middle East, so who should it surprise.

About Santa's celebrations, it originates from Western Europe, and the person from who Santa Claus is inspired is a Greek-Armenian bishop (Nicolas of Myre). Should we be really surprised then that the actual Santa derivating from Santa Claus is white?

I know our own news channels aren't the best (far from it), but really, does people on a US news television (like Fox News is) have really nothing better to do?

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Should we be really surprised then that the actual Santa derivating from Santa Claus is white?

St. Nicholas was from modern day Turkey, and anthropological tests on St. Nicholas estimate that he was brown - as are most people from that region. Megyn Kelly said "you can't change the facts just because you're uncomfortable," even though that's exactly what happened when Santa was turned into a white man.

Now, does it matter what color Santa is? No. He's a fictional character. Anyone can play him whether that person is white, black, or whatever. But, if we're going to use the historical St. Nicholas as a basis for what Santa "should" look like, then Santa is not white.

 

[jpchewy01]

St. Nicholas was from modern day Turkey, and anthropological tests on St. Nicholas estimate that he was brown - as are most people from that region. Megyn Kelly said "you can't change the facts just because you're uncomfortable," even though that's exactly what happened when Santa was turned into a white man.

Now, does it matter what color Santa is? No. He's a fictional character. Anyone can play him whether that person is white, black, or whatever. But, if we're going to use the historical St. Nicholas as a basis for what Santa "should" look like, then Santa is not white.

Who's dignifying the War on Christmas nonsense now?

 

[Lavi]

I know our own news channels aren't the best (far from it), but really, does people on a US news television (like Fox News is) have really nothing better to do?

A lot of mainstream TV news broadcast whatever the **** they want because it's sensational.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Who's dignifying the War on Christmas nonsense now?

The genie's out of the bottle. If someone's wrong, I'm going to correct them.

 

[Dmitri]

In short, some people (as it appears for Fox News) only care about facts when it's convenient for them. Or actually it would be better to say that they claim what is fact to make it whatever is convenient for them.

hint: Malaria isn't really an issue and is easily preventable and treatable

On a side comment, malaria is still an issue. It infects millions of people a year, and kills around a million people a year. It's seen as one of the highest causes of human mortality. But is that the popular belief in the average person (or so I've observed, so I know my comment is possibly biased)? No. People believe anthrax is a greater concern. It's all about what's being advertised in the media or what is being taught to people. Jesus and Santa as non-Caucasian individuals is less widely believed because there's a greater prevalence of people claiming Santa and Jesus are white. That leads to others believing the same mentality. Does that mean they're right? Does that mean everyone believes them? No, but it can be a contributing factor. In short, better not to just believe what everyone says and do some research of your own, looking at different sides (don't just look up every conservative article about how Obama is Osama and you'll get a biased view than were you to look at other beliefs).

 

[jpchewy01]

On a side comment, malaria is still an issue. It infects millions of people a year, and kills around a million people a year. It's seen as one of the highest causes of human mortality. But is that the popular belief in the average person (or so I've observed, so I know my comment is possibly biased)? No. People believe anthrax is a greater concern. It's all about what's being advertised in the media or what is being taught to people. Jesus and Santa as non-Caucasian individuals is less widely believed because there's a greater prevalence of people claiming Santa and Jesus are white. That leads to others believing the same mentality. Does that mean they're right? Does that mean everyone believes them? No, but it can be a contributing factor. In short, better not to just believe what everyone says and do some research of your own, looking at different sides (don't just look up every conservative article about how Obama is Osama and you'll get a biased view than were you to look at other beliefs).

The issue isn't that people no longer contract or die from malaria, which they do, especially in third world countries. The issue discussed was that people should research how to cure malaria. The research has been done and the drugs exist, their availability in said countries is another issue entirely. Context is a beautiful thing.

 

[Blaxican]

I'd do Megyn Kelly. Santa is based off a guy from Turkey and Jesus was a Jew.

That's my contribution to the topic. Apologies if these points have been made already.

 

[Cailst]

St. Nicholas was from modern day Turkey, and anthropological tests on St. Nicholas estimate that he was brown - as are most people from that region. Megyn Kelly said "you can't change the facts just because you're uncomfortable," even though that's exactly what happened when Santa was turned into a white man.

Now, does it matter what color Santa is? No. He's a fictional character. Anyone can play him whether that person is white, black, or whatever. But, if we're going to use the historical St. Nicholas as a basis for what Santa "should" look like, then Santa is not white.

Most people from the middle east look pretty white. For the most part, not blonde hair and blue eyes but still are classified as white on many things including the national census.

 

[Arisalin]

Jesus was as white as the African American kid that lives down the street from me. Where he was born and location doesn't fit the race. Changing Santa doesn't matter to me, but whatever.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Most people from the middle east look pretty white. For the most part, not blonde hair and blue eyes but still are classified as white on many things including the national census.

Don't be your usual Cailst, devil's advocate self. You know exactly what I mean. ;)

 

[RhanTegoth]

I'm late on coming again on that topic, lets say I had better things to do for some moments. Everyone has his opinion on the topic, which i respect. Coming back on the topic, well, oooh Jesus and Santa are both white...

What should i think about that, really? I cannot deny that i would be at least a bit surprised if someone was suddenly coming in to tell me that Jesus was bright green and Santa pastel blue. Why? Well, when was your last time seeing a bright green or a pastel blue person? So what, should i in fact really even react at that politician's (or i don't even know what he is) words on a fairly known for many things news channel? It's just another debate started by someone who doesn't know what stupidity to tell on medias in order to get it talking about him, in my opinion. I guess intelligent people will make their own opinion about it.

/End of my two cents
RhanTegoth out.

 

[Blaxican]

Jesus was a black man from Harlem.

 

[Dmitri]

I'm late on coming again on that topic, lets say I had better things to do for some moments. Everyone has his opinion on the topic, which i respect. Coming back on the topic, well, oooh Jesus and Santa are both white...

What should i think about that, really? I cannot deny that i would be at least a bit surprised if someone was suddenly coming in to tell me that Jesus was bright green and Santa pastel blue. Why? Well, when was your last time seeing a bright green or a pastel blue person? So what, should i in fact really even react at that politician's (or i don't even know what he is) words on a fairly known for many things news channel? It's just another debate started by someone who doesn't know what stupidity to tell on medias in order to get it talking about him, in my opinion. I guess intelligent people will make their own opinion about it.

/End of my two cents
RhanTegoth out.

There's a difference between saying someone had a skin color not seen anywhere (like blue or green). It's another matter if someone's saying they had the skin color that is seen in humanity (not to mention likely more accurate considering nationalities, etc.).

EDIT: If I misinterpreted the point you were trying to make, my bad.

 

[Black Noise]

There's a difference between saying someone had a skin color not seen anywhere (like blue or green). It's another matter if someone's saying they had the skin color that is seen in humanity (not to mention likely more accurate considering nationalities, etc.).

EDIT: If I misinterpreted the point you were trying to make, my bad.

His point was, essentially, why does it matter? How does it affect me today how people think Jesus and Santa, two figures of whom no historical self portraits have ever been painted, looked? Why should I dedicate my time to thinking about this when i could be thinking about more important things, like 'what organizations are best going to utilize my money in helping other people?'

 

[Brandon Rhea]

His point was, essentially, why does it matter? How does it affect me today how people think Jesus and Santa, two figures of whom no historical self portraits have ever been painted, looked? Why should I dedicate my time to thinking about this when i could be thinking about more important things, like 'what organizations are best going to utilize my money in helping other people?'

I don’t understand why the conversation has gotten to this place. It doesn’t matter what you think or you care about. What matters is that a so-called journalist made a statement saying that Jesus and Santa were absolutely positively white, which she passed off as an objective fact. That’s what you should care about: that this is what passes for journalism on the most watched cable news outlet in America.

Not to mention that historical facts, no matter how trivial they may seem to you, are important. It's also important for race relations to stop whitewashing things.

 

[Saul]

Jesus was a black man from Harlem.

Or was he a Dutch man from Haarlem?