North Carolina bill makes 1st amendment powerless in the state.

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Notice how nobody remembers the peaceful revolution of Iceland. Is that coincidental that the media never covered it?

Okay Johnny I was totally wrong and i admit it. Jason Webb, that was interesting. Due to my apparent lack of political knowledge i will not make any other comment on it.

EDIT: @Johnny - If that was you with the bookshelf scholar and gentleman sig, the new one isnt as good.
 

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If/when and admin tells me to change it I will. Are you personally offended? If so I am also willing to change it.

Not personally, no. It's just one of those things that makes you go :CIsee


Okay Johnny I was totally wrong and i admit it. Jason Webb, that was interesting. Due to my apparent lack of political knowledge i will not make any other comment on it.

Not exactly your fault, seeing as no one mentioned it except a handful of websites.
 

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Last year around this time we passed a bill that basically said gay people can't adopt kids, can't get married to other gay people (which they couldn't before), and other stuff that was completely stupid. Yeah, not surprised on this one. The Republicans control our state, which sucks, but hopefully their shitty policies that'll likely mess up our state will wake up some people.
 

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I don't care about any of that stuff honestly, they really can't touch the first amendment unless they get rid of the second one. And it's North Carolina, I will give up my gone once I'm dead. You better make sure I am really dead to, leave me two weeks and burn the surrounding area repeatedly.
 

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I don't care about any of that stuff honestly, they really can't touch the first amendment unless they get rid of the second one. And it's North Carolina, I will give up my gone once I'm dead. You better make sure I am really dead to, leave me two weeks and burn the surrounding area repeatedly.

Noted.
 

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Well that's good then, had the law actually passed I can only imagine what implications that would have, such a precedent could've been disastrous.
 

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Well that's good then, had the law actually passed I can only imagine what implications that would have, such a precedent could've been disastrous.

Disastrously entertaining, most likely. The media would love it.
 

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Hmmm...last I checked it would seem Ireland was in revolution for some centuries against England. Of course this is old history and I have done no recent research on Ireland so enlighten me.

Iceland... Not Ireland.
 

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Disastrously entertaining, most likely. The media would love it.

Disastrous yes, entertaining no. If that bill actually passed, it would set a precedent allowing for other states to make laws that nullify constitutional rights as other lawmakers see fit, it would literally be the start of another civil war, that's what the first one was all about to begin with.
 

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So blacks and gays are going to get enslaved eventually, right? Maybe then the UN would actually do something...
 

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Disastrous yes, entertaining no. If that bill actually passed, it would set a precedent allowing for other states to make laws that nullify constitutional rights as other lawmakers see fit, it would literally be the start of another civil war, that's what the first one was all about to begin with.

That's a bit much. The civil war didn't start just because the south was full of mean nasty racists. Slavery was a major part of the southern economy. The south wasn't just fighting because they wanted slavery, they were fighting because their economy benefited from free, slave labor. "States rights" was just a convenient excuse, and it's one that Confederacy apologists and/or racists still cling to.
 

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Honestly, sometimes I think this country would be well-served if we went the Scooby-Doo route and had a character actor dress up in Spooky Ghost Sherman costume once a year to put the fear of burning cities into these assholes.

Seconded.
 

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Disastrous yes, entertaining no. If that bill actually passed, it would set a precedent allowing for other states to make laws that nullify constitutional rights as other lawmakers see fit, it would literally be the start of another civil war, that's what the first one was all about to begin with.
I agree.

It actually would not matter if the bill passed from a legal standpoint, as the Supreme Court would overturn it in a heartbeat, even if the North Carolina Supreme Court DIDN'T overturn it. The precedent of such a thing is dangerous non-the-less. The federal government would be forced to physically protect its rights, similar to the Whiskey Rebellion.

And I agree with Ush, the blacks and gays are next, along with the liberals and jews.

"I've noticed lately that there seems to be an overabundance of stupid people these days, and then it occurred to me: There are more stupid people because modern medicine has rendered stupidity less-lethal."
 

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That's a bit much. The civil war didn't start just because the south was full of mean nasty racists. Slavery was a major part of the southern economy. The south wasn't just fighting because they wanted slavery, they were fighting because their economy benefited from free, slave labor. "States rights" was just a convenient excuse, and it's one that Confederacy apologists and/or racists still cling to.
Also agreed. However, it was ALSO the U.S. that declared that the war was over states' rights, as they couldn't declare emancipation for the slaves until later, as the war was quite unpopular in a lot of fringe-states that were still in the Union. It does seem like every time I go to Alabama I have this argument with my step-mom's family.
 

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Also agreed. However, it was ALSO the U.S. that declared that the war was over states' rights, as they couldn't declare emancipation for the slaves until later, as the war was quite unpopular in a lot of fringe-states that were still in the Union. It does seem like every time I go to Alabama I have this argument with my step-mom's family.

The fringe state that really mattered above the rest was Maryland. If that had gone to the Confederacy, Washington DC would've been cut off from the Union and surrounded.
 

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You would enjoy the killing of people on United State soil?

OOH! LOOPHOLE! LOOPHOLE! I FOUND ONE!

We could send all the bad Governent officials on a cruise OFF American Soil, and nuke it. :D


I kid.
 

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The fringe state that really mattered above the rest was Maryland. If that had gone to the Confederacy, Washington DC would've been cut off from the Union and surrounded.
"Maryland seceded. We're boned." <-How it could have gone.
Now it's possibly:
"North Carolina told us to ***** off. Can we bomb it?" <-How it might be.
 
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