New Hutt Faction Leader (vote)

[Brandon Rhea]

Hi all. Unfortunately, ZayPat has informed the staff that he will be resigning as Hutt faction leader, as he does not currently have the time to dedicate to the faction that he hoped to. Totally understandable, and we thank him for the time he was able to spend as Hutt FL.

To be honest, we're at a bit of a loss as to who to appoint as the new Hutt FL for two reasons. One, there's two months left in the timeline, at most, so there's not a lot of time to do anything big and new with the faction. Two, there's not that much activity within the faction. There are some people who we considered as candidates but we're not totally sold on anyone in particular.

To that end, what we're going to do is let the members of the faction choose who they want to be as their FL for the rest of the timeline. As long as the person chosen is not unqualified for the position, we will appoint whoever the faction chooses. There are only two stipulations:

1. They cannot be a member of another main faction's leadership (which is a rule we are once again enforcing, after having not done so for awhile). That means that the faction leaders and assistant faction leaders/mods of the Galactic Rebellion, New Sith Imperium, and New Jedi Order are ineligible for the Hutt FL position (as well as Hutt FL positions) unless they resign from that faction's leadership.
2. They cannot be an admin. We will no longer be allowing admins to serve as main faction leaders (with the exception of Ben and Weiss, who will finish out the timeline as the FLs of their respective factions).

Other than that, you can choose you want and how you want. Casting your votes in this thread is probably the easiest option. Please finish this process by next Friday, December 4th. Good luck!

NOTE: Only members of the Hutt faction are eligible to nominate and vote for FL candidates.

CANDIDATES
The following people are candidates for the role of Hutt faction leader:

• @Nor'baal (11) - supported by @Ecclessey, @Livgardist, @TAC, @RED-1, @Chask274, @KrakenDaWhip, @Miz, @Hatebackwards, @Aleksandr, @Jabonicus, @Eldritch
• @Phœnix (8): supported by @The Kyzer, @Bee, @TheSilentWind, @Relent, @Naruto667, @VVVVVV, @M4TT, @ZayPat

If more people are nominated, they will be added to the aforementioned list.

 

[The Kyzer]

I nominate Phoenix for the honor/sacrifice of public service.

He's been a solid performer within the Cartel, he's been very reasonable OOCly (even during battles), and hasn't been the center of any OOC shitstorms.

 

[Eccles]

Can I, like, nominate myself? I've done something like it on another site before and usually get a lot of fun out of it. Ofcourse, as I'm still fairly new, I'm open to being bombarded with questions on skype. It's also a good way to incorporate some ideas for my next timeline independent faction.


EDIT: I just heard from Phoenix that he'd like to do it, so I'll throw my support behind him ;)

 

[Phoenix]

I would be willing to do it if that's what the others in the faction decide on. :)

Edit: I guess that means I'm voting for myself then?

 

[Nor'baal]

I will nominate myself also, however if this is not possible then do let me know @Brandon Rhea.

I feel like I could do a good job as there is certainly little room for doubt that I am passionate about the faction and massively nerdy when it comes to the Hutts themselves.

So I would like to be considered, and will leave it to the members of the Cartel to decide as well as to pitch any questions hey have to me.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

You can nominate yourself.

All current candidates will be added to the first post in this thread to keep track of them.

 

[Black Noise]

I'd like to nominate @BLADE
I think he could do a great deal of good for the Cartel.
Or @Bee as she's a tech admin, not a role play admin, as has been pointed out. The conflict of interest from admin doubling as FL is clear to me, but bee is technical. Unless she does possess the same authority as other admins, I see no reason she cannot take up the mantle.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

We're enforcing the rule for admins in general, so unfortunately Bee is not eligible to be a faction leader. Since it's not just about the conflict of interest, real or perceived. It's also about over-burdening people (historically, with a few exceptions including current ones), those who are both an admin and a FL tend to neglect one in favor of the other just because of the time commitment. As well as the perception of admins controlling everything, which, as evidenced by this timeline, is a perception that can get wildly out of hand regardless of how real it is. Which would only be heightened by having 3 out of 4 main factions being run by admins.

 

[Black Noise]

We're enforcing the rule for admins in general, so unfortunately Bee is not eligible to be a faction leader. Since it's not just about the conflict of interest, real or perceived. It's also about over-burdening people (historically, with a few exceptions including current ones), those who are both an admin and a FL tend to neglect one in favor of the other just because of the time commitment. As well as the perception of admins controlling everything, which, as evidenced by this timeline, is a perception that can get wildly out of hand regardless of how real it is. Which would only be heightened by having 3 out of 4 main factions being run by admins.

Is the site hacked so often, or so often hit with spam and needing of general maintenance, that Bee(and by that turn, Hassan if he's still around) are packed to the brim with work that she is ineligible for her own strain's sake? Because if that's the case then I understand your reasoning and I don't see any reason for Bee to not simply quit being your tech admin if she decides she actually wants to RP in order to get around such nonsense. But if that's not so, then what's to say she can't be an FL? She's a tech admin, she handles technical site nonsense, not Roleplay nonsense.

While I said nothing of the sort as to 'admins controlling everything,' I do believe you pointed out the reasoning for that thinking, flawed or not. If admins control all the factions, then clearly the story is admin run. But by making up new rules then new exceptions to the new rules, does that not also continue to purvey the idea that admins rule the timeline? If you want to get rid of those rumors, then perhaps Ben and Weiss should find replacements for themselves. And who's to say you won't make such exceptions next timeline should the conditions favor it for you and the admin team?

All that aside, I still nominate @BLADE unless there's a reason he shouldn't be FL.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Is the site hacked so often, or so often hit with spam and needing of general maintenance, that Bee(and by that turn, Hassan if he's still around) are packed to the brim with work that she is ineligible for her own strain's sake? Because if that's the case then I understand your reasoning, but if that's not so, then I don't see any reason for Bee to not simply quit being your tech admin if she decides she actually wants to RP in order to get around such nonsense.

While I said nothing of the sort as to 'admins controlling everything,' I do believe you pointed out the reasoning for that thinking, flawed or not. If admins control all the factions, then clearly the story is admin run. But by making up new rules then new exceptions to the new rules, does that not also continue to purvey the idea that admins rule the timeline? If you want to get rid of those rumors, then perhaps Ben and Weiss should find replacements for themselves. And who's to say you won't make such exceptions next timeline should the conditions favor it for you and the admin team?

We're not booting anyone from their current roles, because that would be disruptive to the current faction management of the timeline, so Weiss and Ben were grandfathered in, but we are starting enforcement of the rule now for all current and future open FL spots. An admin will never be appointed as FL again, and FLs who are tapped to become admins will need to resign as FL if they want to become admins. So by next timeline, the FLs will be 100% non-admins. We're already going to be adding that to the site rules as part of the rules revamp that we're actively working on for the next timeline, so it's not just going to be something that's kinda/sorta enforced.

I hate to be so blunt about this, but it's not up for debate.

As for your nomination, the first post mentions that the decision for choosing a new FL is up to members of the Hutt faction. So far as I know, based on your sig, you don't have a Hutt character, so unless I'm mistaken then I can't accept your nomination. Someone who is in the Hutt faction is free to re-submit it, of course, if they so choose.

 

[The Kyzer]

We're not booting anyone from their current roles, because that would be disruptive to the current faction management of the timeline

Well that's not true.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Well that's not true.

Two separate rules (you're not an admin) with two different circumstances.

That's not what this thread is for, so let's stop derailing it please. Thank you.

 

[Law abiding heretic]

Voting for norby. Also will this candidate be the leader of the next criminal main faction?

 

[Dmitri]

Faction leaders of the previous timelines are never automatically faction leaders of the next timelines.

 

[Law abiding heretic]

Alright, still voting for @Nor'baal

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Alright, still voting for @Nor'baal

The three characters listed in your signature are not marked as Hutt characters. Are you a member of this faction? If not, then per the first post and one of my recent posts, this is up to members of the faction to decide.

 

[Bee]

Er, last I recall Norb (the character) was wanted by the Cartel, and only a member because we couldn't have an IC trial due to Norb (the player) not wanting to do the thread. So that might make him exempt, since he's really only a part of it because of an OOC technicality. I don't know all the rules (or if he has other characters that qualify) but it seems like it's worth pointing out.

I'll vote for @Phoenix, regardless.

 

[Dmitri]

A new character can be created for the FL PC.

 

[Bee]

A new character can be created for the FL PC.

Yeah, but I think the nomination/voting is open to members of the faction specifically.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Yeah, but I think the nomination/voting is open to members of the faction specifically.

He has other Hutt characters listed in his signature.