Mandalorians and the Jedi Alliance: Post feedback!

[Phil]

As some of you may have noticed, in the close future(Hopefully shortly after Christmas and before New Years), the Mandalorians will be allying with the Jedi Alliance. It's not just to get allies, but to also save ourselves from The Sith that have us surrounded. Because they can, and will eventually attack us, and we won't last long, no matter how brave or prideful some of our Mandalorians may be.

It also presents us some good opportunities. But note, we are NOT becoming the Jedi Alliance's lackeys, and they are not becoming ours. Well, way I see it anyways. We would just form an alliance to help each other in the war, and right now the Jedi could use the help we have just as we could use the help they have.

I now would like you, Mandalorian Members, to state your opinions, concerns and thoughts about this. Please keep them on topic, as this is only about the Alliance. It is happening, because we'll die if we don't get some help. It's not a debate, it's not a theory, it's a fact.

In turn, please keep the nonsense to a minimum and that includes Sith Members coming in here with posts about how they'll kick our asses and such. Off topic posts and unnecessary nonsense WILL be deleted.


So discuss.

 

[Syn]

I have faith in you Mulluns

 

[Bad Wolf]

I'm just gonna say it, I don't trust Jedi for personal reasons.
Now on that same note, there are several jedi characters I will gladly RP with.

On a complete IC fact my Main character doesn't trust any Force user, most of them have stabbed her in the back or been less then useless in combat.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Phil]

I'm just gonna say it, I don't trust Jedi for personal reasons.

Is this coming from you or your Mandalorian?

Now on that same note, there are several jedi characters I will gladly RP with.

On a complete IC fact my Main character doesn't trust any Force user, most of them have stabbed her in the back or been less then useless in combat.

Just my 2 cents.

I can understand you and others not trusting Force Users, it seems to be something some Mandalorians have. I only hope this will not cause many to leave.

 

[Bad Wolf]

Should have phrased the first one differently, I as a player do not like Jedi, never have.

My Mando doesn't trust Jedi, Sith or Imperial Knights.

Had a bounty placed on my head by a Sith, oddly enough it was a Jedi Knight and a Sith lord who helped me out of that Jam so those 2 characters are on my ,hey these guys are kool, list now Imperial Knights they essentially helped Botch a mission on Tatooine, not going to name names or point fingers.

I'm not going anywhere unless something hugely drastic happens.

 

[Ender]

...Jedi=/=Mandalorians. But I will accept it, it's necessary.

 

[Vencu]

There are more subtle ways of tipping the balance of power to one side over the other. Not only will this declaration jumpstart the coming war, but after it is over, we will still be in the shadow of a galactic power that will either discard us, destroy us, or force us to conform to their standards. You are choosing the easiest, most obvious path. It isn't the wrong one, but it isn't the best one, either. We must walk a thin line if we wish to come out stronger than before... otherwise, we remain stagnant and we die out slowly, suffocated by the ambition of others.

 

[Phil]

There are more subtle ways of tipping the balance of power to one side over the other. Not only will this declaration jumpstart the coming war, but after it is over, we will still be in the shadow of a galactic power that will either discard us, destroy us, or force us to conform to their standards. You are choosing the easiest, most obvious path. It isn't the wrong one, but it isn't the best one, either. We must walk a thin line if we wish to come out stronger than before... otherwise, we remain stagnant and we die out slowly, suffocated by the ambition of others.

The Jedi Alliance and Sith Empire are both the strongest factions and both seperately outnumber us to the point that attacking either would be foolish. Plus the Chiss, who we are at war with, rival us and are allied with the Sith. Joining the Sith would not only be repeating history, but ensuring both our doom and The Jedi Alliance for good. It would give the Jedi absolutely a hell of a time to try and win. So the way I see it, to continue the Mandalorians and the Timeline, the Jedi Alliance is the only way.

But if you have other plans or alternatives or ideas about all of this, then by all means speak your mind about it.

 

[Nirvana]

If it was has to be done then let's do it, but my mando'ade will be a bit on edge when working with jedi. wanna know why just look in the background, I think it will explain why he dont trust force users. Or at the least jedi.
But if we need allies to survive agaisnt the sith then so be it.

 

[Fusion]

The Jedi and Alliance aren't doing as well as they seem, what with most of the Jedi having left/gone to the ImpKnights/fallen. The ImpKnights were on a roll until Rouge got killed. The NCIS is pretty stable so far, albeit stagnant and not doing much aggressive stuff, similar to the Chiss. I'd say allying the NCIS and ImpKnights should be done immediately, with talks about an alliance to the Jedi/GA to occur after the new council is sorted out.

 

[Horizon]

Another disappointing movement.

/sigh

 

[Statler89]

My only character right now(waiting for rank) will back his commanding Officer on the Endless Dawn

 

[Lupe]

The way I see it us Mando's want to defeat the Sith and Chiss. The Imperial knights and Jedi Alliance want to do the same. So an alliance with both or either one would be benificial.

As far as my character goes he doesn't care as long as they prove themselves to him and his fellow mando's. If they don't he will be a lot more hesitant in working with them. But thats my opinion.

 

[Loco]

The way I see it is this- Allying ourselves with the Jedi and the IK is the only way to survive the coming war. We do not have the man power to fight a galactic war of attrition. While it will be unpopular on a certain level to join forces, we can make things happen on our terms. First, we are not their lackeys, we would be strategic allies only. When all is said and done, we go back to our little corner of space, and the Alliance can GTFO. It wouldn't be the first time. We joined forces against the old Empire and the 'Vong invaders. We're not above gaining allies to ensure our ultimate survival.

Think Russia or the Chinese and the US in WWII. Fighting on the same side, but not exactly drinking buddies.

 

[Lupe]

^^I like that idea except hopefully we won't be that little in territorial terms:D

 

[Loco]

Oooooor, we could sit tight and reinforce our independence. Meanwhile, The Sith surround us, the Chiss infiltrate us, and we're fighting a war anyway- except strategically, we're on our own and we're stuck in a corner. The Sith will not let us go forever, and I think history has shown to them that recruiting us will ultimately do them no good. So we may last longer in that approach, but we'll be ultimately and unavoidably doomed.

Another disappointing movement.

/sigh

It's more helpful if you post ideas and alternatives. Bitching about choices doesn't help if you can't offer anything different.

 

[Vencu]

The Jedi Alliance and Sith Empire are both the strongest factions and both seperately outnumber us to the point that attacking either would be foolish. Plus the Chiss, who we are at war with, rival us and are allied with the Sith. Joining the Sith would not only be repeating history, but ensuring both our doom and The Jedi Alliance for good. It would give the Jedi absolutely a hell of a time to try and win. So the way I see it, to continue the Mandalorians and the Timeline, the Jedi Alliance is the only way.

But if you have other plans or alternatives or ideas about all of this, then by all means speak your mind about it.

I sent a PM about a viable alternative months ago. It was dismissed.

As I said, there are more subtle ways of tipping the balance of power. Subtle is the key word. If you want me to explain my alternative plan all over again, I can, but it isn't for the eyes of outsiders.

 

[Phil]

I'd also like it if we can be civil about this, unlike the last Mando feedback thread we had.

The Jedi and Alliance aren't doing as well as they seem, what with most of the Jedi having left/gone to the ImpKnights/fallen. The ImpKnights were on a roll until Rouge got killed. The NCIS is pretty stable so far, albeit stagnant and not doing much aggressive stuff, similar to the Chiss. I'd say allying the NCIS and ImpKnights should be done immediately, with talks about an alliance to the Jedi/GA to occur after the new council is sorted out.

Why join an Indie faction?

And we're allying with the Jedi Alliance for the reason you just stated. We're going to help them, and if they continue to give the same dedication they have been before, then we know who's to blame.

My only character right now(waiting for rank) will back his commanding Officer on the Endless Dawn

Wrong place, Lad.

I sent a PM about a viable alternative months ago. It was dismissed.

As I said, there are more subtle ways of tipping the balance of power. Subtle is the key word. If you want me to explain my alternative plan all over again, I can, but it isn't for the eyes of outsiders.

I'll go looking through my PMs.

But if you're going to go and say you have ideas but won't post them, then please just stop posting. Also the highlighted remark isn't going to win favors if you going to be acting Mandalorian in OOC discussions that are determining the fate of more then just our faction. Just so you know.

 

[Arm514ve]

I'll have an oppinion once the new council is decided if it was the last group I hate to say i would have been behind corden on the alliance since that last council not going to name names were ass holes, and allying with them probably wouldn't have been a good idea.

but I will agree we need the alliance/Republic more than some would let on because aperantly though still hunting the chiss are somehow boxing us in after taking I think a few republic woulds on our boarders.

My only character right now(waiting for rank) will back his commanding Officer on the Endless Dawn

if mulluns hasn't already I'll add you sorry.

 

[Loco]

Ok, I just read Cordens plan. I like it, and I do not think it's incompatible with Mandalorian ideals. However, I think it merits more private discussion before it becomes common or even faction wide knowledge. Reason being, frankly, we haven't shown the sort of coordination or cooperation necessary to pull off any sort of plan.

We've made a lot of recent gains, and it's good to see, but I still don't think we're as cohesive a fighting force as the Sith. We can be, and I think we're closer to it than the Jedi, but we could still use some work. Coming out of this alive, no matter what path we take- it's going to be work. But we're Mando'ade, and this is what we do.

Tsikador, ori'vod. Tsikador :CStern