Lightsabers in DOTR

[Spud]

I did have an idea for a lightsaber sheath however. Like a sabercane, where the lightsaber hilt slots into a longer object instead of hanging from ones belt. So they could use the sheathed saber to fight and pummel enemies, and then if the situation truly called for it, unsheathe their saber to use the lethal option. It would be an interesting thing to RP out, even if explaining it could be difficult.

I don't think that'd be too difficult to explain, it'd basically be a cane/quarterstaff/stick with a detachable handle that happens to be a lightsaber. Seems like a very plausible weapon to me, especially among those that practice non-lethal takedowns or those that actually need a cane.

I'd also love to see a lightsaber+shield combination, and love to use it for that matter.

 

[Halcyon]

OMG, lightsaber and shield sounds so rad! It never even occurred to me before, and suddenly I pictured something like MH's SnS!

Too bad it doesn't make sense for my PC to know how to properly use a shield and sword (or have any need to do so), or I would totally go for it.

 

[QwibQwib]

So if a lightsaber gets its color from being imbued by the force then what would happen if a Jedi ended up with a red saber while making their blade? Would the Jedi just be like, "Get out"?

 

[Spud]

Good question. I doubt they'd just kick someone out like that, some of the more suspicious ones would probably keep an eye on that individual to see if they can figure out why the crystal turned red. It may just be their favorite color, perhaps they're very passionate about something, red doesn't mean 'evil' but it does make sense to me that passion would have a hand in it. If passion is the case it makes sense for the Sith to have mostly red sabers since they generally thrive on their passions.

 

[Halcyon]

I agree with Spud.

For whatever reason (though I like the passion explanation), on Canon a red LS is something exclusive to Sith - so far, at least - so my guess is that no actual Jedi would willingly produce a red saber under normal circumstances, unless he was turning to the Dark Side. Also, there is no actual confirmation that the process is completely involuntary.

A Padawan would've given signs of turning way before ever building his first LS, or at least he would be smart enough to try and hide it by producing a different color.

I imagine that a Jedi with a red saber would be somewhat ostracized, from my point of view Jedi are dogmatic enough to do that.

 

[QwibQwib]

Well, Brilliant. That may be something I put into play if I ever decide to have a Jedi character.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

So if a lightsaber gets its color from being imbued by the force then what would happen if a Jedi ended up with a red saber while making their blade? Would the Jedi just be like, "Get out"?

Holy shit I want to see that story now.

 

[Spud]

Indeed, especially veteran Jedi that have actually fought Sith. I imagine the moment they see some padawan/young knight with a red blade they'd immediately assume the worst.

 

[QwibQwib]

Holy shit I want to see that story now.

You're not alone

 

[Sapphire Storm]

That story would have so much potential and could go SOOOO many places.

 

[Halcyon]

Must... resist... urge... to rethink... my character!...

 

[Vosrik]

Even if it was a 'good' sort of passion that created the red lightsaber, the Jedi would still be suspicious (being anti-attachment/passion). I could see a particularly good Grey Jedi *coughfulcrumcough* coming out of that.

 

[QwibQwib]

Now I am putting quite a bit of consideration on what kind of character I would want.

Decisions.. I was at first going to make an astromech droid.. But this.. oh boy.

 

[Spud]

The same could potentially be said of a Sith Acolyte making a blue or green saber. I'm not sure if they'd be more accepting or more discriminate than the Jedi in the reverse case. "Fallen" Jedi joining the Sith seems to be more common than "Risen" Sith joining the Jedi so a blue/green saber might not be a huge shock to see but still suspicious.

 

[Cainhurst Crow]

So can a lightsaber change color to reflect its users post-creation? Like a blue lightsaber slowly turning red after they embrace the dark side?

 

[Spud]

So can a lightsaber change color to reflect its users post-creation? Like a blue lightsaber slowly turning red after they embrace the dark side?

That'd be interesting to play out over time. It'd probably have to do with specifically meditating with the crystal or one's saber, if one doesn't do that then it might remain the old color. Edit: Or it might take longer with more subtle changes, sort of leeching off of its wielders state of mind over time.

 

[Vosrik]

Unfortunately it seems more likely that the Dark Side would corrupt a Light-imbued crystal than the other way around. I don't think I've heard or read anything anywhere about the Jedi Council accepting a sith-turned-good either, they'd be too suspicious and close-minded to accept 'repentant' ones.

 

[Halcyon]

My PC's saber slightly shifts hue from a silvery white to muddled gray, but that's mostly due to its poor construction and faulty power cell. A total shift in color spectrum would certainly require a long period of meditation. There are several instances where a FU picked up a LS belonging to another and it didn't change color. A notable such occasion, was when Anakin killed Dooku with his own saber, and it remained red.

@Vosrik That happened more than a couple of times, every one of those times are from Legends though. But I agree, Sith are much more open minded and even susceptible to changes to their own tenets and the internal structure of their Orders.

 

[Saul]

Unfortunately it seems more likely that the Dark Side would corrupt a Light-imbued crystal than the other way around. I don't think I've heard or read anything anywhere about the Jedi Council accepting a sith-turned-good either, they'd be too suspicious and close-minded to accept 'repentant' ones.

It's not in canon, however it occurred in Legends several times. Typically, it was Sith who were prideful and arrogant and didn't believe in wasting time stomping on the weak, which fostered a sort of patriarchal empathy for the weak, which meant that they could be turned to the Jedi. Also, Vader; he might not have rejoined the Jedi, but he definitely redeemed himself. Had he not, you know, died, I bet he would have helped Luke found the NJO. A big reason this didn't happen in Canon is because of the Rule of Two; there just weren't enough Sith available to defect to the Jedi.

As for what the Council thinks, luckily we don't have to worry about that. It's the Jedi Lords determination, not the Council.

As for the lightsaber changing color, I don't see this happening. HOWEVER I do see the lightsabers behavior to its Jedi changing. See, lightsaber crystals have a mind of their own, the Force chooses its user, as do the crystals. The crystal chose ___ over Kylo, despite any reasons it should have preferred him. A crystal attuned with the light side of the Force might actually betray its user if they turn to the Dark Side (and vice verse) being harder to sense in, and manipulate with, the Force. As this happens, you may need to attune with a new crystal, one that embraces the new you.

Concerning lightsaber + shield combo's, I practiced this in a thread after learning sword and board techniques IRL, and the sword and board techniques don't work well in RP. Ultimately, it's a handicap - the format of a post means you're basically guaranteed a block and a counter-attack; if that's with a sword, a shield, a second sword, or whatever, you still get it. Feel free to try it for funsies, though, I recommend doing a friendly spar before trying it out in a scenario where you face off with death.

 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Funsies are the best reason to do anything, imo. Even with the whole death aspect, building for PVP alone is a good way to end up just picking the standard fair, (( Single Saber ---> Djem So/Shien ---> Telekinesis )).

It's doing the eccentric, in my personal opinion, where the real enjoyment in writing comes from. Such as picking styles other then Form V. :P ((No offense to anyone who likes the form either. It's just one of the most popular ones I see, outside of the edgelord Form VII folks.))