Jedi Classes

[Gex]

I always thought bugger was like.. a way to say god damn it, when something goes wrong... could be wrong.. nay from that part of the UK.

 

[Deloi]

It isn't necessary to attach a weakness to a character at all. Granted, if you feel it would make role playing them more interesting, have at it. Personally, I don't need to add weaknesses to my characters. I'm not afraid to put them into danger, nor allow them to fail.

Additionally, I'm not sure what the connotation is behind "bugger" where you are from, but if it's what I think it is I've got some unfriendly American words for you as well. :CStern

I just mean don't be good in everything. Also I use bugger for a multitude of reasons.

 

[Rameth]

I was under the impression that you don't get to choose whether you specialize or not. Also the fact that there were Jedi "Guardians" who were good at the force doesn't really make any sense. The fact that they are "Guardians" means they aren't good at the Force. Saying they can be sort of defeats the purpose of having "classes" as they are for balancing purposes in a RPG.

The only reason I could see them being used would be as a sort of descriptor for Jedi. Like if a Jedi is more focused on lightsaber combat then the force then his peers would see him as a Guardian. Is this the way it is meant to be applied? As a sort of title and not a class in the traditional sense?

Also there is no reason your character can't be good at everything. He shouldn't be great or excellent at everything but he can be good at everything.

 

[Aluminum Falcon]

The only reason I could see them being used would be as a sort of descriptor for Jedi. Like if a Jedi is more focused on lightsaber combat then the force then his peers would see him as a Guardian. Is this the way it is meant to be applied? As a sort of title and not a class in the traditional sense?

This would make sense if its true.

 

[Gex]

Of course he can be.. but you often get the twits that hate to lose.. hence you spend the best part of the role-play either arguing/getting thrown around/giving in out of total boredom or the usual sort, let it go dead.

I don't generally like to see a weakness as a general type, like cant use force, can't fly, 'one leg. But more of a personality trait, arrogant, fool hardy, hates heights. Its more character defining and creates more personality in the character.

As for Classes, I always just figured they where a fancy title and don't really hold much regard to them.. I role-play my jedi as I see generally fit to her character, titles like that imho are meant for RPG not this kind of RP, but as I say I reckon there mostly just titles to define a group of individuals motives and goals rather than skills..

 

[Deloi]

I don't generally like to see a weakness as a general type, like cant use force, can't fly, 'one leg. But more of a personality trait, arrogant, fool hardy, hates heights. Its more character defining and creates more personality in the character.

Indeed, because if you are good in everything, guess who's not going to play with you. A majority of people who will find you as a mary sue. Not having a single notable flaw is one of the first steps to being a mary sue. If you are good at everything and have no character flaws or weaknesses, you are a mary sue.

 

[Aluminum Falcon]

Indeed, because if you are good in everything, guess who's not going to play with you. A majority of people who will find you as a mary sue. Not having a single notable flaw is one of the first steps to being a mary sue. If you are good at everything and have no character flaws or weaknesses, you are a mary sue.

Let's not forget that it has a lot to do with roleplay. To be a mary sue you have to roleplay your character as one.

 

[Rameth]

The way I saw it Mary Sues were great at everything, always won a fight, never had anything bad happen to them and always won the girl/guy. All of those things are a long way away from just being "good" at things and not having a noticeable flaw. I mean if you look at the characters in damn near every story they are good at tons of things. That doesn't mean they are Mary Sues. Obi-Wan, Luke, Anakin and Revan would all classify as Mary Sues if you use your definition of it. I mean they can fly ships like aces, hack terminals, are good at lightsaber combat, force powers and tons of other stuff. Yet people still like them as characters. Its as Aluminum said, you have to play your character like a Mary Sue not just seem like one on paper.

 

[Deloi]

Indeed, because if you are good in everything, guess who's not going to play with you. A majority of people who will find you as a mary sue. Not having a single notable flaw is one of the first steps to being a mary sue. If you are good at everything and have no character flaws or weaknesses, you are a mary sue.

Okay made a mistake here. My post is kind of conflicting now that I look back on it, and my point actually looks really different now that I reread it. Buggered that up, sorry.

Indeed, because if you are good in everything, guess who's not going to play with you. A majority of people who will find your character cheap. Not having a single notable flaw is one of the first steps to being a mary sue too. If you are good at everything and have no character flaws or weaknesses, you are dangerously close to being a mary sue.

Fixed it, but I did not say "good at a ton of stuff means you are a mary sue" I said "good at everything". Being good at everything and having no flaws is a terrible and overly idealistic character in itself. Now imagine if you had all the other traits of a mary sue or even just one other trait of it. Your character would not be terrible to you, but to everyone else your character would just be a wish fulfillment. Besides: if it seems like one on paper, it probably is. If it looks like a bugger, sounds like a bugger, then it probably is a bugger.

Edit: Wait wait, take me out of this. I'm forgetting two very important rules. Never argue on the internet and never argue about the definition of a mary sue. There is actually no set definition that virtually everyone follows.

 

[Matt]

I just mean don't be good in everything. Also I use bugger for a multitude of reasons.

Most in the completely wrong way.

Are you even English?

 

[Deloi]

There are several ways I use it because it rolls off the tongue and it helps when I don't want to be vulgar. Why do you guys have to get so angry at the way I talk? I'll say bugger less if it is really going to get on your nerves. I like the word though.

The ways I use bugger:
To describe a person affectionately
To describe a jerk
To replace the word "****" or any use of the word.
When I'm really pissed
As an intensifier

I don't care how it supposed to be used, I like gettin creative with it. This actually would not be the first time someone has called me out about its use.

 

[Matt]

There are several ways I use it because it rolls off the tongue and it helps when I don't want to be vulgar. Why do you guys have to get so angry at the way I talk? I'll say bugger less if it is really going to get on your nerves. I like the word though.

The ways I use bugger:
To describe a person affectionately
To describe a jerk
To replace the word "****" or any use of the word.
When I'm really pissed
As an intensifier

I don't care how it supposed to be used, I like gettin creative with it. This actually would not be the first time someone has called me out about its use.

So your American then? Who in England says Jerk?

 

[Deloi]

So your American then? Who in England says Jerk?

I do and several of my friends. We use the internet, it's not like we haven't heard or seen the word before. I thought it sounded better than pratt as well.

 

[Horizon]

Guys, it's just something he likes to say lol..

 

[dskod1]

I would like to point out that I live in australia and it is a common word

 

[Jake]

It had nothing to do with the topic, and I'm pretty sure it was just to hurt my feelings. "Good thing my feelings regenerate at twice the rate of a normal man's." Is that how he said it? Anyway, I said he had a point; a petty one.

No, it wasn't to hurt your feelings.

I was just telling you that you have an irritating verbal tic that takes away from the points you try to convey in your posts. It's like if I included the word 'dick' in every post I make (affectionately or otherwise): it would catch your attention and probably distract from what I was trying to say.

I would include something relevant to the topic at hand, but the point of the thread has been lost anyway, between buggers and mary sues.

 

[Matt]

Lock.

Very few times am I happy to lock a thread