'Deron 'Deron: OOC

[Undine]

I apologize, guys, life's been taking a lot of my attention. I'll have a post up shortly. My family needed me last night, and I had to leave on very short notice. If you'll still have me, I'll post what I had planned on posting last night.

I'll say the same thing I said on skype, if your in the middle of some sort of family emergency just tell us. I will not kill your character if your in the middle of a crisis.

My neighbor and her daughter are the only sort of family I have left, her daughter will be giving birth any day now. When that happens there is a very good chance I won't be able to post for a couple days. I'd expect the same patience when/if it happens before our thread is finished.​

 

[Ulysses]

Hi
My feelings are pretty much the same as before: I'm not here to kill PCs for the sake of it. However, I think there's a big difference between that and inviting another invasion attempt, so I would vote against starting again. I will defer to @Undine 's judgement on a retrospective time extension: I'm not fussed either way.

At the end of the day, I'm all about the character development and if you think some time in Jedi custody will do your character some good, then the offer still stands.

 

[Undine]

@Gian Greydragon I'm willing to give you till 6pm tomorrow EST, or 24 & 1/2 hours from now. I'll also message you on skype to make sure you know.​

 

[Gian Greydragon]

I'm cool with that. I'll have one up tonight

 

[Gian Greydragon]

That said, @Ulysses are your attacks aimed at me or Cain?

 

[Cainhurst Crow]

I've been pretty busy with a my current job atm and it's rather harsh afternoon to closing shifts. I'll be posting after @Gian Greydragon . Gian, I am irritated at what happened, but I'm not mad. I let my own posting slip due to work and some complications that arose with it that took the majority of my attention to address.

I wouldn't mind a capture if it comes down to it but I'm also not opposed to you guys drawing blood. So if either @Undine or @Uyelesus feel like having a main allowed pvp I'm all for it.

 

[Ulysses]

I was aiming at @Cainhurst Crow , which I think you worked out.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to dictate the nature of the PvP without you - my comments were primarily about an auto hit scenario.

Finally, I'm not sure how your character @Gian Greydragon can turn his mind to a) a falling grenade; b) lifting that grenade with the force long enough to make sure it's clear; c) an attack from the air; d) where his auxiliary weapons are and what his weapon of choice is; e) parrying the attack from the sky; and f) warning his comrade about a flank attack.

In any event, the warning will come too late as the force push was explicitly due to come with the grenade explosion i.e. as @Undine 's character fell, before you would be parrying.

Calpernia will need to have extraordinary discipline not to react to the falling grenade or the aerial attack to see Al-Ric's coming; and if I was being picky, Gian's post served to fix that attack as coming from the rear.

 

[Undine]

To clear something up real fast, @Gian Greydragon part of the "penalty," I'm rather uncomfortable calling it that, but it fits nonetheless, since you and @Cainhurst Crow were unable to post within the 48 hours timeframe concerning the previous round was that neither of you would notice our Jedi approaching. Now, technically, neither of you agreed to this, but at the same time neither of you objected.

In order to clear up any confusion on either side, I'd ask that what @Ulysses asked for stands. Specifically:​

I would suggest that the corollary is that our approach/ambush has come uninterrupted/unnoticed?

Now, if you want to contend this on the grounds that PvP had not officially started because no attacks had been made, that's fair, to a point. However, in a thread that is set up to be PvP from the beginning, I'd assume the PvP rules and time limits are in place even before the first strikes are made. So again, I'd prefer if neither of you are made aware of our Jedi's presence before we make our initial attacks. Debating this is, again, fair as no attacks had been made, and as I'm not sure if there is a precedent for this type of situation before now, so it might very well need an official ruling in that regard. Not just for our thread's sake but for future instances of this situation as well.

Now, moving on to what would happen if you do not notice our approach. You wouldn't be made aware of the ambush until the smackdown grenade hit the ground, going off and, as it's name suggests, knocking you and Cain to the ground, assuming your both within 5 meters of the grenade, not sure how much distance is between your characters. There would be no forewarning as precog abilities are not allowed in PvP, even with the Force your character would have no way of knowing the grenade was inbound before it set off. I'd think Nilus' first chance to properly counter would be to block himself from being cut in half from Kesiya's blade, either with his lightsaber or a Force push. Personally, in that situation I'd use the Force to send Keisya flying backwards, allowing you to regain your footing as Kesiya regained hers seconds later.

My last point of contention mirrors Ulysses' second to last point, Al-Ric's attacks are happening at the same time as Keisya's, meaning Nilus would be far to busy defending himself to warn his companion of another Jedi coming from the opposite direction from where Nilus is facing, as Kesiya and Al-Ric are attacking from opposite sides inward, facing towards each other in such a way so as to force yourself and Cain towards each other's backs, and limiting your character's maneuverability. Effectively, there is no way for Nilus to know Al-Ric is moving to attack Calpernia if he himself is facing in the opposite direction, much less being sent to the ground by the smackdown grenade.​

I wouldn't mind a capture if it comes down to it but I'm also not opposed to you guys drawing blood. So if either @Undine or @Ulysses feel like having a main allowed pvp I'm all for it.

Because no mention of what is or is not allowed as far as No Death, No Maim, No Capture, was mentioned at any point in the thread itself or in this OOC, all three are allowed. Death, maiming, and capture can and will be on the table for us all.​

 

[Cainhurst Crow]

So I take it gian needs to argue his case or make edits to his post. Would it be possible for Calpernia to spot Kesiya as shes attacking?

 

[Undine]

So I take it gian needs to argue his case or make edits to his post. Would it be possible for Calpernia to spot Kesiya as shes attacking?

Spotting her as she attacks works, just not before, as Gian does in his post.​

 

[Undine]

This thread is starting to make me feel like that kid whose father went out to buy cigarettes four days ago and never came back.

I'm not so much sad by it as I am bored.

 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Like I said im waiting for @Gian Greydragon to make the edits or at least address the concerns you have. If I make a post then I'm going to end up canonizing what happened, making it unable to be edited.

 

[Undine]

Like I said im waiting for @Gian Greydragon to make the edits or at least address the concerns you have. If I make a post then I'm going to end up canonizing what happened, making it unable to be edited.

Unless your gonna turn on his character you posting wouldn't canonize anything in his post because your not opposition to him. Now, posting on your end would be difficult because potential edits would drastically change what your character is reacting to. On the other hand, you could just take the Force push and have your character react to that and then counter @Ulysses by attacking his character. That wouldn't really change either way, edits or no edits.​

 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Alright, i'll try and get something up soonish.

 

[Phoenix]

There was a report lodged about this thread but, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure what you all are looking for a ruling on. Can someone enlighten me? It seems to be just an issue of someone timing out, which doesn't really require a report.

@Undine @Cainhurst Crow @Gian Greydragon @Ulysses

 

[Undine]

There was a report lodged about this thread but, to be honest, I'm not entirely sure what you all are looking for a ruling on. Can someone enlighten me? It seems to be just an issue of someone timing out, which doesn't really require a report.

@Undine @Cainhurst Crow @Gian Greydragon @Ulysses

It's not a specific issue. @Gian Greydragon timed out twice, on the first time out he and @Cainhurst Crow both timed out, which led to myself and @Ulysses posting again. After that Gian timed out again but once he told us he had some family issues to deal with we gave him a retroactive time extension. Once he did post I requested edits to be made or for him to at least disagree with me. It's been more than 24 hours since I requested the edits and I've messaged him on Skype with no answer here or elsewhere.

I'm honestly not sure what to do or how to proceed. More than anything that's kinda what I'd like a ruling on. Personally, I'd rather just void the thread and move on. If Gian is unable to give enough time to keep a PvP going that's fair, but he shouldn't have joined the PvP in the first place or requested to be replaced by someone else. I'm getting to the point I don't even want to continue on with the thread.​

 

[Phoenix]

It's not a specific issue. @Gian Greydragon timed out twice, on the first time out he and @Cainhurst Crow both timed out, which led to myself and @Ulysses posting again. After that Gian timed out again but once he told us he had some family issues to deal with we gave him a retroactive time extension. Once he did post I requested edits to be made or for him to at least disagree with me. It's been more than 24 hours since I requested the edits and I've messaged him on Skype with no answer here or elsewhere.

I'm honestly not sure what to do or how to proceed. More than anything that's kinda what I'd like a ruling on. Personally, I'd rather just void the thread and move on. If Gian is unable to give enough time to keep a PvP going that's fair, but he shouldn't have joined the PvP in the first place or requested to be replaced by someone else. I'm getting to the point I don't even want to continue on with the thread.​

If all participants post here and agree that they don't want to continue then none of you are obligated to continue

 

[Ulysses]

I'm easy either way.
my priorities are: a) an interesting story; and b) in which the forest doesn't get grilled

 

[Undine]

If all participants post here and agree that they don't want to continue then none of you are obligated to continue

Apologies for the report then, I didn't realize it was that simple.

I hate it when I have to point at the rules and say things like timeouts, auto hits, and reports, and this thread has been a near constant rulefest one way and another. If this wasn't a PvP thread the waiting really wouldn't bother me in the slightest, but as it is I'm tired of this thread. I'd prefer a void or else a swift end to it regardless. If you guys don't want to void it, fair enough. I'm willing to give Gian until noon tomorrow to at the very least say something on the matter, otherwise I'll just post, canonize his post and end my involvement in the thread by knocking my own character out as her head hits a tree or something.

@Gian Greydragon @Cainhurst Crow @Ulysses​

 

[Cainhurst Crow]

I wouldn't mind a voiding giving the IRL issues going on. If we want to void or want to continue, I'll be fine either way.