Crystal Thieves OOC

[Logan]

Get an admin to review this entire thread, then talk to me. That was the original intention when the posts where reported, I simply wish for it to be followed through

It's not up to others to get an admin. If you feel like an injustice is occurring, report it on your own.

I will say that in most instances, admins will (usually) defer to faction leadership in things like this. Which both Prudence and Valen Pelora are. So personally I would advise against wasting your own time and try to work on who might come attempt to do the rescue.

 

[Valen Pelora]

I'm certainly disappointed this could not be resolved OOC, especially given @Comrade Matt's agreement.

For clarity, we had an OOC discussion related to what do with the prisoners given the Mando assisatance in capturing the two Sith. It was decided we would split any prionsers given the fact it would be difficult to defend 2 separate rescue threads, should it happen that way.

IC Kalan Ordo and Vesper Almec are considered (at least pre TS) as friends of the Jedi. His actions in the caves were not seen as aggressive towards the Jedi or designed to harm Jedi. The caves were not destroyed or crippled by his actions. Individual Jedi are free to pursue their own course of action.

 

[vamp]

I'm certainly disappointed this could not be resolved OOC, especially given @Comrade Matt's agreement.

For clarity, we had an OOC discussion related to what do with the prisoners given the Mando assisatance in capturing the two Sith. It was decided we would split any prionsers given the fact it would be difficult to defend 2 separate rescue threads, should it happen that way.

IC Kalan Ordo and Vesper Almec are considered (at least pre TS) as friends of the Jedi. His actions in the caves were not seen as aggressive towards the Jedi or designed to harm Jedi. The caves were not destroyed or crippled by his actions. Individual Jedi are free to pursue their own course of action.

If Morrigan consents, we could do a thread that takes place right after this one, where the prisoners are being transported to be separated. When they reach the crossroads (so to speak) they stage an escape together.

For fairness purposes, I was hoping we could make the escape thread 2v2

 

[Valen Pelora]

If Morrigan consents, we could do a thread that takes place right after this one, where the prisoners are being transported to be separated. When they reach the crossroads (so to speak) they stage an escape together.

For fairness purposes, I was hoping we could make the escape thread 2v2

I've already discussed this issue with the admins on another thread (Szebat's rescue) and we can't do any PVP flash back threads that don't have a predetermined outcome because of the weirdness that would have on present threads. That same idea you suggested could be applied to a thread that takes places 5 years later. I'm fine with a 2v2 but you would need rescuers.

 

[TheMorrigan]

If Morrigan consents, we could do a thread that takes place right after this one, where the prisoners are being transported to be separated. When they reach the crossroads (so to speak) they stage an escape together.

For fairness purposes, I was hoping we could make the escape thread 2v2

That entirely depends on the combatants. Morri is basically crippled now, remember. Unless the Mandos or Jedi felt the need to heal him.

 

[vamp]

I've already discussed this issue with the admins on another thread (Szebat's rescue) and we can't do any PVP flash back threads that don't have a predetermined outcome because of the weirdness that would have on present threads. That same idea you suggested could be applied to a thread that takes places 5 years later. I'm fine with a 2v2 but you would need rescuers.

That entirely depends on the combatants. Morri is basically crippled now, remember. Unless the Mandos or Jedi felt the need to heal him.

Well, I guess Morri won't be crippled if it takes place five years later lol

Wouldn't we be able to do the thread if we all previously determine that the escapees get away? If I have to do a rescue thread five years later, that would mean Calmax would've spent the entire time skip in prison, which would ruin some plans I had for flashbacks completely, and I'm sure the same is true for Morrigan

 

[Valen Pelora]

We will not stipulated to the prisoners escaping. Being captured in PVP means you need to be busted out.

This is why it really would have been better if the thread could have been finished pre TS.

 

[Prudence]

Additionally you are prisoners. You aren't armed with your gear. You are unarmored and unarmed. Thus you will need rescuers for each of you.

 

[Aurius]

I personally can see why @TheMorrigan is concerned. However, I feel Cecil would be helpful in escorting one of them.

 

[vamp]

So basically, I can't do any flashback threads because Calmax was in prison the entire time?

That's dumb. I don't see why the thread can't be planned out before. That would make things even more interesting, since the story gets better.

 

[Undine]

I was thinking that some Jedi would attempt to turn them to the light side. 5 years is a long time not to attempt this. It's also the type of thing Emerald would do, they could attempt an escape then, assuming Jedi leadership agreed to that scenario.​

 

[vamp]

I was thinking that some Jedi would attempt to turn them to the light side. 5 years is a long time not to attempt this. It's also the type of thing Emerald would do, they could attempt an escape then, assuming Jedi leadership agreed to that scenario.​

That sounds way more reasonable. I was also planning on making Calmax more light through self-doubt and stuff. I'm up for that.

 

[Undine]

Any chance of an actual conversion? If you went Jedi this would turn into an entirely different conversation. :p​

 

[vamp]

Any chance of an actual conversion? If you went Jedi this would turn into an entirely different conversation. :p​

Yeah, I was considering either making him a darker Sith or a Jedi, although Jedi seems more plausible to me. We'll see how the thread goes, and I might sign him up as a Jedi

 

[Valen Pelora]

I tried to stress this was the reason the thread needed to be completed before the TimeSkip. Again, there cannot a PVP flashback thread that does not have a predetermined ending. I have already discussed this and received this information from the admins. The Jedi leadership will not agree to a pre-determined escape. The thread will have to take place after the TimeSkip if you agree to the capture. There can be threads that take place during the imprisonment. My understanding is flashback threads should be kept to a minimum.

 

[Prudence]

I personally can see why @TheMorrigan is concerned. However, I feel Cecil would be helpful in escorting one of them.

Unfortunately it's up to faction leadership as to who is sent. Also I'd like to ask you to please stop posting in this ooc as you aren't a participant

 

[vamp]

I tried to stress this was the reason the thread needed to be completed before the TimeSkip. Again, there cannot a PVP flashback thread that does not have a predetermined ending. I have already discussed this and received this information from the admins. The Jedi leadership will not agree to a pre-determined escape. The thread will have to take place after the TimeSkip if you agree to the capture. There can be threads that take place during the imprisonment. My understanding is flashback threads should be kept to a minimum.

What if I don't agree to the capture?

 

[Valen Pelora]

What if I don't agree to the capture?

Everyone involved waits for an admin ruling on the conclusion of the thread, which I think likely ends in capture.

 

[Prudence]

What if I don't agree to the capture?

Then we can call in an admin and get it ruled, and I'm fairly certain it'll be ruled a capture at the least.

 

[Aurius]

Unfortunately it's up to faction leadership as to who is sent. Also I'd like to ask you to please stop posting in this ooc as you aren't a participant

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Alrighty...