Bacta topic

[Bee]

I don't think we have the resources available to actually engage in a naval battle and win. Detonating the failsafe(s) after an evacuation would be my first choice, with a high priority on evacuating as many Vratix as possible.

 

[Gaja]

Well we can engage them, but I don't think we can win, not against what they brought with them. It'd just be a stupid move on our part because we'd probably be sending some PC's to their grave, or if they make it out alive to hell if the Sith pursue or capture them.

It's also important to say while there is a fleet protecting Thyferra, the planets main defense was the threat of destroying the bacta. At least against the Sith... we have enough ships to defend against a nearby planet, sky pirates or mercenaries...

 

[Butler]

Well my merry muppets.. I haven't had a chance to catch up on the Kiro/Gaja Thyferra thread (if there have been any new developments since Gaja's first post) but my possibly uninformed vote goes for no engagement -that's no naval engagement - and full escape to defend our other planets inside Hutt territory where I believe the Sith are really looking to attack and execute some kind of sabatogue to at least some portion of the Bacta on Thyferra on our way out without goading any immediate Sith aggression in that thread. I think we're going to have to roll with more punches than we might be thinking. Basically: "I've got a bad feeling about this." But really, I think we'll survive all in all if we bend rather than break over the first of a dozen punches. Know what I mean Vern?

 

[Gaja]

Well my idea so far would be to go back and forth with Kiro as much as possible, see if we can't make the good admiral sweat some. That and probably insult her a bit, because why not?

But as far as actions go I say we pack up our things, besides the 4 main pc's aren't even on the planet itself, so we hyper space the hell out of there and a timer on the planet blows up the facilities and partially [temporarilly] poisons the bacta [for about a year IC after which the Sith can mine it themselves]. We lose Thyferra, Sith claim it and the Cartel still has its stock, which they now can't renew and slowly but surely kolto will become the main go-to healing agent...

Something along those lines, that and us going back prepping for further battles.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Be careful with the insults. Use enough of them and eventually Kiro may find herself in a situation where, regardless of whether you want to fight or not, attacking you is the most realistic course of action.

Also keep in mind that if you poison or do anything to the bacta, there is no grace period.

 

[Bee]

Remaining as diplomatic as possible would probably make the whole "let's blow this joint sky high" plan a little less obvious. If we go in acting antagonistic, then the Sith would probably be on the lookout for some kind of retaliation, or use it as a reason to just go all-out on us.

 

[Gaja]

So no giving her the middle finger or calling her names? :CShock

 

[Just Matt Now]

Also keep in mind that if you poison or do anything to the bacta, there is no grace period.

I think we need to prepare for another attack in Hutt space. So far all of our action plans will cause the Sith to renounce their grace period option, which means they might be looking to attack us again on another front. Where are we at with the numbers on our fleet?

 

[Bee]

Uh. Wasn't the plan to pretend we were leaving quietly/peacefully they use the failsafe to blow shit up in our wake?

Because that's not what just happened.

 

[Gaja]

I guess not. I thought we were negotiating. Oh well it's rude to tease people, now where's that red button.

Oh yeah feel free to face palm... lol

 

[Bee]

I am seriously pretty mad right now, and I am not the type of person who gets mad at internet-related dumbassery. Please do not ask for input if you're going to ignore it.

 

[Butler]

They are also wasting time and assets on an attack though. Which means they're less likely to attack our other planets without a breath ...in theory at least.

 

[Bee]

If the Sith only wanted Thyferra (which they did!) then they would've been busy taking it/dealing with the failsafes, and we would've had a pretty nice grace period (IC and OOC) to get our crap together, regarding fleet numbers/position.

 

[Gaja]

Oh crap, I didn't mean it like that. I really thought we were negotiating. But one thing you should know, they did probably want to attack as quickly as possible so we wouldn't have time to do anything. They might have attacked anyway...

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Oh crap, I didn't mean it like that. I really thought we were negotiating. But one thing you should know, they did probably want to attack as quickly as possible so we wouldn't have time to do anything. They might have attacked anyway...

No they wouldn't have, and you were told that. There was an admin-backed guarantee that if the Hutts left Thyferra without a fight AND without messing with the bacta, there would've been a grace period. For at least a few weeks, the Sith would not have made any attacks against the Hutts. That's the outcome that Sreeya was hoping and pushing for. If the Sith had gone back on their word and attacked anyway, then their attack would've been voided.

But that ship has sailed now.

 

[Gaja]

Bro, Yuri and Kiro's chick were just talking and everyone could tell that, I was under the impression that a conversation goes that way until some middle ground was found. She was the one who decided to attack, without any final warnings or anything like that, and invade without even trying to sway things in her favor somewhat in her reply. If she really wanted us to leave peacefully she kind of made it hard for me to be honest with you.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Bro, Yuri and Kiro's chick were just talking and everyone could tell that, I was under the impression that a conversation goes that way until some middle ground was found. She was the one who decided to attack, without any final warnings or anything like that, and invade without even trying to sway things in her favor somewhat in her reply. If she really wanted us to leave peacefully she kind of made it hard for me to be honest with you.

They gave you terms, your character rejected them. You said that if the Sith don't leave, then you will destroy the bacta. That pretty much ended any negotiations because you gave the Sith a reason to move in. You had until Monday to decide whether you wanted to flee or fight. They gave you way longer than that. You didn't leave, and you threatened the bacta, so of course they're going to move in now. Anything else wouldn't make any sense for the Sith to do.

 

[Gaja]

First of all the fact they said Monday doesn't mean that much to me considering I've been here and seen how long some battles and threads drag on, and by forum rules we give people a week to reply [also we did have stuff to clear up didn't we?]. Oh yeah remember Boonta?

Also it seems to me like the Stih > everyone else here; so I'm sorry if things didn't work out perfectly but they attacked. Also a grace period of a few weeks is just bull, and I think everyone knows that. If it had been like 1-2 months I'd have been sad about it.

Also what's the big deal, the main bacta reserve is in Hutt space anyway so why you freakin' out peeps? Let's just blow the joint sky high, post the convo on the holonet, get everyone running and call it a day.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

First of all the fact they said Monday doesn't mean that much to me considering I've been here and seen how long some battles and threads drag on, and by forum rules we give people a week to reply [also we did have stuff to clear up didn't we?]. Oh yeah remember Boonta?

Well that's a really bad call on your part. You never objected to it, and in fact were working to meet that deadline before it happened. So going back on it now and having an attitude about it is just petty.

Also it seems to me like the Stih > everyone else here; so I'm sorry if things didn't work out perfectly but they attacked. Also a grace period of a few weeks is just bull, and I think everyone knows that. If it had been like 1-2 months I'd have been sad about it.

A few weeks is a few weeks. It would've given you guys a chance to make your own plans against the Sith rather than just playing defense, and it just gives everyone a break in general.

Also what's the big deal, the main bacta reserve is in Hutt space anyway so why you freakin' out peeps? Let's just blow the joint sky high, post the convo on the holonet, get everyone running and call it a day.

The reserve can't last forever, just to be clear. That's probably what they're concerned about.

 

[Gaja]

Well that's a really bad call on your part. You never objected to it, and in fact were working to meet that deadline before it happened. So going back on it now and having an attitude about it is just petty.

Well why wouldn't I? I always try to reply in a timely manner and to me it was enough time because our pm convo went of reasonably quick and the Hutt staff came together almost instantly. Regardless what Sreeya put as a "deadline" and her options I would have replied all the same. I'm not having an attitude about it now either in that I have anything against it. If it's a thread you got to have some patience and anyone trying to force it just doesn't seem right to me...

Btw I'm not saying they forced me or anything, everything went smoothly as far as posting is concerned.

A few weeks is a few weeks. It would've given you guys a chance to make your own plans against the Sith rather than just playing defense, and it just gives everyone a break in general.

Well if they want a break they should take one. I'm not forcing them to attack us either. Although we are kind of attacking them a bit... lol

The reserve can't last forever, just to be clear. That's probably what they're concerned about.

True, but they have no reserves now, or won't have any very soon as the Cartel stopped selling bacta to them once Klatooine was attacked. And they are a pretty big faction so whatever they may have, good luck trying to spread it out. And we'll figure out what to do with our stuff later I would assume.

While I am sad that they resorted to violence that quickly it just speeds things up, the way I'm trying to see it because Kiro just attacked. And now we have to do our own thing, right?

Also I'd like to add that their terms were, a few IC hours to leave, no bacta and just Hutt staff. Not exactly good terms.