Attack on Zonju V(OOC)

[Black Noise]

Main Thread

First off, the use of NPCs in this thread, within reason, is completely allowed. I am utilizing NPCs from my faction, and while every NPC loss of Hutt lives is naturally not counted against your faction, it is for me as an Indie faction, so please keep that in mind.

Secondly, the reason I originally said no to Hutt NPCs is that, well, the ones inside the casino are going to be useless to you due to the nature of the attack and the fact that the shots are being fired from distances of 200-600 meters away.

Now, posting order is as follows. Each member of the Black Sun will post once, followed by each member of the Hutts posting once establishing position and reaction. Naturally you can be as far or as close as you wish within reason(no, you can't be outside the building the shot's fired from, that's just silly, however starting down the street from the building where a rocket's been fired from is absolutely fine.). It will be up to Hurricane Matt's discretion once he sees the posts made by the Black Sun whether or not the Casino collapses. Once everyone has posted one time, you will adhere to the order of
-Wynnhimine
-Naruto
-Black Noise
-Kentast
-Captain France
-Gaja

If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, feel free to post them here. Black Sun, once you've fired, run for the hills! Hutts, good luck.

 

[Gaja]

Black Sun, once you've fired, run for the hills! Hutts, good luck.

You made my day with that one. Thank you. [lol]

 

[Black Noise]

AF has just informed me that he cannot be in this thread due to pressing RL concerns. I'll be taking his place.

 

[Nor'baal]

Urm - why am I not listed on the participants thread?

 

[Black Noise]

Urm - why am I not listed on the participants thread?

Because other people were selected.

 

[Nor'baal]

I am not to pleased with this BN. The Bouncy Bantha Casino is run my my character on behalf of the Cartel - so he should have a representative in this thread.

 

[Black Noise]

I am not to pleased with this BN. The Bouncy Bantha Casino is run my my character on behalf of the Cartel - so he should have a representative in this thread.

That is precisely the reason you were not chosen, I don't want someone in this thread having an attachment to the asset being destroyed in the opening posts. You can be as displeased as you like, but character selections have already been made.

 

[Nor'baal]

So, you did not choose me to make it easier for you?

Thread reported.

 

[Green Ranger]

Nor'baal's correct in that if he's in charge of the asset, he has a right to participate in the thread. You can't lock someone out like that when they have a valid reason to be there.

However, there is a question of the validity of that asset. Since none of the other admins are on, I have to ask this.

Nor'baal, per your previous profile of Nor'baal, and my ruling on your character (http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/...aJilic-Diori&p=1057342&viewfull=1#post1057342), all expansions of assets need to be approved. Who did you speak to in order to approve this asset? If you could get back to me on that quickly, it'll hopefully speed up the process. Cheers.

 

[Nor'baal]

The asset is not owned by Nor'baal by any sense of the word. It is owned by the Cartel with Nor'baal as the overseeing agent so to speak. It is not his.

May I suggest this thread is timed so as to take place shortly after Nor'baals Arrest on Rishi - that way an NPC Agent will over overseeing it not Nor'baal?

 

[Green Ranger]

The asset is not owned by Nor'baal by any sense of the word. It is owned by the Cartel with Nor'baal as the overseeing agent so to speak. It is not his.

Yet you have it listed as an asset in your profile. So which one is it? It's either Nor'baal's asset, giving him a right to be there for the attack and associated profits etc., or it belongs to the Hutts, and ultimately the decision is in the hands of Hurricane Matt. You can't have it both ways.

May I suggest this thread is timed so as to take place shortly after Nor'baals Arrest on Rishi - that way an NPC Agent will over overseeing it not Nor'baal?

If your character is captured, then RPing an NPC on his behalf is a no-go. There are consequences for being a prisoner or under arrest.

 

[Nor'baal]

Well - it is listed in his profile yes? However most Hutt Players do the same with Assets they control also. It is a Hutt Cartel Controlled Asset, Operated on their behalf by this character. I can if needed remove it - although I do not see the point in doing so as every other PC that Operates an Asset for the Cartel does the same as I do.

And - I was trying to offer a solution - so I am aware that should this thread take place when Norby is under arrest, he would be unable to defend it.

 

[Green Ranger]

Well - it is listed in his profile yes? However most Hutt Players do the same with Assets they control also. It is a Hutt Cartel Controlled Asset, Operated on their behalf by this character. I can if needed remove it - although I do not see the point in doing so as every other PC that Operates an Asset for the Cartel does the same as I do.

And - I was trying to offer a solution - so I am aware that should this thread take place when Norby is under arrest, he would be unable to defend it.

No need. If it's a Hutt Cartel-owned asset, then all the decision making goes to the faction leader - while BN doesn't have the right to exclude you or anyone else or pick who from the Hutt Cartel is in the thread, at the same time neither do you have a claim to participating either. You're just an employee. A high-ranked employee, but an employee nonetheless. I'd suggest you remove it from your profile, or be more clear that you just work there in an executive position, because given past issues with your profile, its risky for you to put new assets in without having an admin approve it.

On another note, BN, you can't say the Hutts can't have NPCs there, just like you can't decide who among the applicants is there. Again, that decision is theirs to make, and the decision is up to the Hutt leadership.

 

[Nor'baal]

Ok, I shall add ''Operated Assets - Hutt Cartel'' next to it.

 

[Black Noise]

No need. If it's a Hutt Cartel-owned asset, then all the decision making goes to the faction leader - while BN doesn't have the right to exclude you or anyone else or pick who from the Hutt Cartel is in the thread, at the same time neither do you have a claim to participating either. You're just an employee. A high-ranked employee, but an employee nonetheless. I'd suggest you remove it from your profile, or be more clear that you just work there in an executive position, because given past issues with your profile, its risky for you to put new assets in without having an admin approve it.

On another note, BN, you can't say the Hutts can't have NPCs there, just like you can't decide who among the applicants is there. Again, that decision is theirs to make, and the decision is up to the Hutt leadership.

Matt looked over my decisions and did not contact me with any problems, only giving orders on to replace ect. should ect. Not be able to participate. Regardless, I apologize for selecting the Hutt players, my intention was to select fair choices based upon the characters I'm providing. In the future I will see that Matt selects his participants in future skirmishes.

It's not that I'm disallowing the Hutts to use NPCs then turning right around and using my own. What I was discouraging was the use of the NPCs inside the casino because of their distance from the Black Sun PCs makes them obsolete. The Hutts have every right to use whatever NPCs they wish within the city such as routine patrols ect. and I'm not against that.

 

[Gaja]

It's all good guys. IC Norbal was at Rishi, but the more important point is that because of his actions recently the Cartel froze all of his asets and removed his right to own/run HC assets, so he wouldn't be able to be here anyway. As far as the participants go, they are overall fair IMO. And BN only said for us to try and not kill TOO many of his NPCs as his indie faction doesn't have the numbers the Cartel has, nothing more.

All good in my opinion.

Although now that you point it out Boli it might have been better on my part to reach out to BN about the HC team, though as I imagined it to be more of a story thing than a battle for dominance on Zonju V I kind of missed that one. Ups. lol

 

[Black Noise]

All good in my opinion.

Although not that you point it out Boli it might have been better on my part to reach out to BN about the HC team, though as I imagined it to be more of a story thing than a battle for dominance on Zonju V I kind of missed that one. Ups. lol

You've got it right there Gaja, it is more for story purposes than a battle. Either way this thread goes, the Cartel does not lose territory on Zonju V, and regardless of whether or not you catch the Black Sun, we're still running for our lives. If this were used is regards to an actual battle, the Hutt side has already won and is now chasing the cowards away.

 

[Chairdor]

Less talk more explosions


edit:

Also if you want a better idea of Hutt security assets and the make up of their forces check the TMC spoiler labeled 'official write up' here

 

[Black Noise]

Less talk more explosions


edit:

Also if you want a better idea of Hutt security assets and the make up of their forces check the TMC spoiler labeled 'official write up' here

tl;dr of the security(allowing for the fact that not all hired security would be on guard at the same time), there are roughly 1,500-2,000 assorted security personell active at all times spread throughout the city, yes?

If so, I'm ok with this.

I shall be posting tonight, Wynnhimine can post before or after me, whenever she gets the chance. After that the Hutts can have at it!~

 

[Gaja]

Ok in that case I'll direct the general movement of the Hutt NPCs when it's my turn. After all if their main casino got bazookad several times there'd be a lot of chaos, confusion and things to do. Suffice to say not all of them would jump on pursuing the culprits, but that depends on what the situation is once its my turn I guess.

667 and Kentast, feel free to control a few NPCs if you need to.