You will be *expelled* from the Jedi Order!

[Blaxican]

Which entails... what, exactly?

It's something that's bugged me for years. How exactly does expellation from the Order work? I mean work in the sense of "how does a super-being with super-powers get expelled from the Order and not be expected to turn into an evil douchebag"?

Something tells me that if a Jedi commits a crime serious enough to be booted from the Order, but it isn't an actual "crime" crime like murder or something, putting the offender in jail or executing them isn't going to fly. So what do they do, just release the guy into Galaxy? "Now that we've trained you to be a super-human asskicker, go wander the Galaxy without our instruction, guidance or monitoring presence. And promise that you won't like turn to the Dark Side or use your powers for evil shit and stuff".

I mean, seriously. If Anakin had decided to call Obi-Wan's bluff and go after Padme, would the Jedi really have just kicked the demonstrably mentally unstable Force-Jesus-Chosen-One to the curb? That doesn't sound like a recipe for disaster?

It would be like the Justice League kicking Superman out because they caught him ****ing a cantaloupe in the basement. On the one hand, rules are rules and the JLA doesn't look kindly on the molestation of fruits. On the other hand... it's Superman.

Anyway, was curious to know if there's any canon on this? Whether it be EU or a statement from Word of God.

 

[Oncaro]

The JLA comparison doesn't entirely work, because Superman is able to be taken down by at least some of the JLA (particularly the Flash, who could most definitely run rings around Superman and utterly curbstomp him) if he went rogue. In one of the DCAU Original Movies the various weaknesses of the JLA and the contingencies against them should any of them go rogue are the centerpoints of the plot.

In the case of Anakin... Yeah, that's basically what'd happen from what I understand, but that shows that the Jedi of the era were just blinded by dogma and rather arrogant in their righteousness to boot, which is a big reason why they were able to fall for Palpatine's machinations.

 

[Andrewza]

Play the game. Nights of the old republic 2.

 

[Logan]

Play the game. Nights of the old republic 2.

The Exile was also severed from the force, something the Jedi don't do very often.

 

[Cofi]

Play the game. Nights of the old republic 2.

And it's Knights of the old republic 2: The sith lords

:D Just saying ;) ::D:

 

[Andrewza]

And it's Knights of the old republic 2: The sith lords

:D Just saying ;) ::D:

Knew it looked wrong.

 

[Kaeb]

Another problem with the methodology used when approaching the Jedi in the prequels. The Jedi should not have been a strictly regimented police force or organised element, they should have been wanderers connected by a shared ideology and nothing more. To put it simply, it makes them cooler/more interesting. More like mysterious superheroes.

They should have emphasized their Samurai/Ronin/Cowboy aspects more than turning them into a clergy of stuffy elitists.

 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Considering what happened with ashoka in the last season of clone wars, and subsequently rebels and such, arrest and execution are exactly what happens when youre expelled.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Considering what happened with ashoka in the last season of clone wars, and subsequently rebels and such, arrest and execution are exactly what happens when youre expelled.

Not necessarily. That was the result of high crimes. If Anakin had been expelled, it would have been for violating the Jedi Code, which is presumably not a legal offense in the Republic.

Violation of the Jedi Code would just mean you can't be called a Jedi anymore. It also doesn't automatically mean that the person falls to the dark side. In fact, in Anakin's case, being expelled from the Jedi Order might've been the best thing for him. He could've had a life with Padme without having to keep secrets, and Palpatine wouldn't have had that as leverage.

 

[Srota]

Well, according to Lucas, the force is very much a "use it or lose it" kind of thing (This is coming from the Sam Witwer commentaries to the prequel films, I believe), so I imagine a lot of those who were "expelled" or who left the Jedi order probably had their connection to the force decay and leave them over time.

 

[jpchewy01]

Well, according to Lucas, the force is very much a "use it or lose it" kind of thing (This is coming from the Sam Witwer commentaries to the prequel films, I believe), so I imagine a lot of those who were "expelled" or who left the Jedi order probably had their connection to the force decay and leave them over time.

This can't possibly be canon anymore. Read A New Dawn.

 

[Johnnysaurus Rex]

Didn't fill my Force power quota this week... shit.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I have to sincerely doubt that Lucas said the Force leaves them.

A Jedi falls out of practice? Sure. That makes complete sense. But loses it? I doubt he said that.

 

[Cainhurst Crow]

Can't the jedi sever a person's connection to the force? Or was that a lost art?

 

[Johnnysaurus Rex]

I have to sincerely doubt that Lucas said the Force leaves them.

A Jedi falls out of practice? Sure. That makes complete sense. But loses it? I doubt he said that.

Sometimes you leave your Force in your coat pocket and you leave it at your friend's house and s/he is one of those friends that lives in another state and doesn't visit that often, but you knew them from high school so occasionally you will see them in your home town back on holiday and they always MEAN to bring the coat back, but it just slips their mind every time.

The ideas ****ing stupid.

 

[silverwing510]

Can't the jedi sever a person's connection to the force? Or was that a lost art?

Nomi Sunrider did it to Ulic Quel-Droma, it sort of happened in KOTOR 2 (without getting into spoilers). But it's considered especially harsh, a fate worse than death by many, so it's not done very often. I'm not sure if Jedi even know how any more.

 

[Cortan]

That and neither of those are currently canon until evidence shows otherwise, so its kind of an open question for the franchise going ahead.

 

[Cofi]

Another problem with the methodology used when approaching the Jedi in the prequels. The Jedi should not have been a strictly regimented police force or organised element, they should have been wanderers connected by a shared ideology and nothing more. To put it simply, it makes them cooler/more interesting. More like mysterious superheroes.

They should have emphasized their Samurai/Ronin/Cowboy aspects more than turning them into a clergy of stuffy elitists.

Approved! +1

 

[Srota]

I'm not saying you lose it in a day, but if you don't use the force for decades, like a muscle, it will atrophy and your connection and force skills will decay. Look at yoda and how he strains to lift the xwing on dagobah when a few decades earlier he was using force powers in battle. That was the point, its like a muscle, if you fail to exercise it, its not gonna work as well as if you had.

 

[Kaeb]

I think the trouble with the Force is writers have a tendency to try too hard to define it's aspects, instead of respecting the orignal intention, which is that it remain a mysterious element in this universe.