Who wants to be infected

[Outlander]

So, what would this faction bring to get the Players invested? I mean, it would be cool to have zombies, but what does being in the faction actually do for the Players?

 

[Richie B.]

Well I thinking that players characters can still be unique just that ultimately they are working too expand their power bases. Though that is later when the faction can actually stand on its feet, the ultimate goal for everyone is making every person in the galaxy a member of the "family" by infection and unlike the Sith and other factions which should have lots of infighting it will kind of be allowed. Also allows for players to lead their own undead army, and if they make enough allies with other Players can try and make their character the leader of the faction. Forces players to interact with each other in a meaningful ways that can help decide where this faction goes. Though this is all later in the timeline when the faction actually has made themselves into something.

The first people that join can have a better chance in building a power base still working on what else to say but I will come back and give a better story when my RL calms down helping my Gf in making sweets.

 

[Marf]

@Benvenu7
You didn't understand, it has nothing to do with the actual faction. The name "black" sounds racially offensive or derogatory. Which is what many people will think at first (as I did) when they read it. It reads really poorly, and you'd be better off changing it.

 

[Richie B.]

Alright guess the Joke didn't go as planned let me see if I cant change that.

I will also edit my first post so it is more readable as soon as I can.

 

[Outlander]

@Benvenu7 You still aren't getting it. The name, The Black, is both not a good name AND can be construed as racially offensive. No, the thread name didn't help, but the bigger issue is the name of the faction itself.

 

[Marf]

@Benvenu7

Somehow I don't think you intended it to be a joke before people reacted. Because it wasn't a very funny one.

Ah well, glad to see you changed it.

 

[Richie B.]

Yea I honestly don't have a name which is a big thing but yes it was a joke ask Kyle and Pros about it, though I got the name from what we used in the Naboo thread a link I provided and we dubbed it the black because of the black goo (and because it was a funny joke at the time) that came out of the infected hosts, any ideas on a good faction name would be great. This is a rough sketch on how I think the faction should start and should help explain more about the "Virus" but it is incomplete and again only a rough sketch I would like it if people commented and gave their ideas about it.



I am trying too go for a faction that the main goal for it will be different for the players goal, the faction will be started by a scientist that lost his wife in conflict during a relief aid mission, grieve stayed with the man well into his later years eventually deciding to do something about the galaxy wide issues that were too numerous too count the scientist created a organic substance that would cause everyone infected by it too have a small telepathic connection with each other. Not in a attempt to make them all share a mind but rather so they all will become closer hopefully causing everyone too end the many issues that plagued this galaxy, but of course that isn't what necessarily happened in working on this project the scientist was pushed and pushed to work on it becoming almost crazy over the idea of a unified galaxy, hoping to have everyone still retain their intelligence but just with a added layer of telepathic abilities which should in theory cause people to trust and care for their fellow beings.

As one would think that didn't end up well being test runs didn't work very well not helping the poor scientist psyche, as many of the creatures were turned, violent, brain dead or even just make said creature until a vegetable. After many attempts the scientist continued with little success at first until eventually he noticed that the previous experiments had died out because the now dubbed "virus" ate away the bodies when it had no other source of organic matter to sustain itself. Of course that wasn't the scientists first thought and after many trails and errors the scientist went mad in searching for a answer, eventually thinking he figured out the problem after infecting the families pet Kath hound which had turned pure grey from old age, which didn't turn violent or aggressive and just stayed the same. So in his moment of victory he decided that it was time to test it on a truly sentient being infecting himself the scientist was in pain at first but eventually realized that he was human an even after eating all the organic food, he was still hungry though it wasn't as bad. The constant need too feed caused the scientist in his last attempt for peace, decided to affect others too see how they would feel, sadly for the scientist the "virus" wasn't complete yet and every single person infected became hungry for organic matter of any kind, though the unknown side affects included increase strength, the intelligence of most were still taken away unless someone had a strong will or a unique quality too cause the virus let you keep your identity in a hope that the host will still be able to hunt down others and spread the infection more effectively than a mindless husk.

 

[Outlander]

Yea I honestly don't have a name which is a big thing but yes it was a joke ask Kyle and Pros about it, though I got the name from what we used in the Naboo thread a link I provided and we dubbed it the black because of the black goo (and because it was a funny joke at the time) that came out of the infected hosts, any ideas on a good faction name would be great.

Anything but the Black

This is a rough sketch on how I think the faction should start and should help explain more about the "Virus" but it is incomplete and again only a rough sketch I would like it if people commented and gave their ideas about it.

This isn't really an idea for the Faction though, it's an idea for a backstory for the Faction. And that's a fairly significant difference in my opinion. I feel what a faction is is vastly more important than how they started.

I am trying too go for a faction that the main goal for it will be different for the players goal, the faction will be started by a scientist that lost his wife in conflict during a relief aid mission, grieve stayed with the man well into his later years eventually deciding to do something about the galaxy wide issues that were too numerous too count the scientist created a organic substance that would cause everyone infected by it too have a small telepathic connection with each other. Not in a attempt to make them all share a mind but rather so they all will become closer hopefully causing everyone too end the many issues that plagued this galaxy, but of course that isn't what necessarily happened...

Wait, what? That...doesn't really make sense. I mean, I know people grieving aren't always rational, but this is a trained medical professional that's trying to infect the entire galaxy with a virus that will make them telepathic? So apparently they'll get along better?

Another thing: Telepathy. In the new Canon, there are no known instances, at least to my knowledge, of telepathy outside the force. Now, if the admins are OK with a virus inducing telepathic abilities, fine. But I have no idea how that would work into the universe.

...in working on this project the scientist was pushed and pushed to work on it becoming almost crazy over the idea of a unified galaxy, hoping to have everyone still retain their intelligence but just with a added layer of telepathic abilities which should in theory cause people to trust and care for their fellow beings.

Again, how? That really doesn't make sense.

As one would think that didn't end up well being test runs didn't work very well not helping the poor scientist psyche, as many of the creatures were turned, violent, brain dead or even just make said creature until a vegetable. After many attempts the scientist continued with little success at first until eventually he noticed that the previous experiments had died out because the now dubbed "virus" ate away the bodies when it had no other source of organic matter to sustain itself. Of course that wasn't the scientists first thought and after many trails and errors the scientist went mad in searching for a answer, eventually thinking he figured out the problem after infecting the families pet Kath hound which had turned pure grey from old age, which didn't turn violent or aggressive and just stayed the same.

Wait, so the doctor created a flesh eating virus and still didn't think it was a bad idea?

On the subject of the virus and those it infects, does that mean they look the same? No mutations or anything?

So in his moment of victory he decided that it was time to test it on a truly sentient being infecting himself the scientist was in pain at first but eventually realized that he was human an even after eating all the organic food, he was still hungry though it wasn't as bad. The constant need too feed caused the scientist in his last attempt for peace, decided to affect others too see how they would feel, sadly for the scientist the "virus" wasn't complete yet and every single person infected became hungry for organic matter of any kind, though the unknown side affects included increase strength...

So he went out and intentionally infected others after realizing the virus ate away at him as well as caused him to have unsaitable hunger? This is the same guy that wanted galactic peace, right?

Wouldn't the scientist have known about the increased strength since he was already infected?

...,the intelligence of most were still taken away unless someone had a strong will or a unique quality too cause the virus let you keep your identity in a hope that the host will still be able to hunt down others and spread the infection more effectively than a mindless husk.

So the Virus is sentient? Because that opens yet another can of worms.

 

[Richie B.]

Well again I would like others in joining me in working on this, but to answer your questions I will try my best this is still a work in progress so bare with me it might seem a bit weird. An thank you @Outlander these questions are actually helping me

1. I idea comes from the fact that no person can truly believe another persons words, no matter how well you trust a person so in essence what he is trying to create without joining the line is a hive mind where everyone still keeps their intelligence and sanity. Though I know it seems a bit weird and strange but what I mean about Telepathy is that what ever one person thinks in his head everyone connected by said virus will be able to hear or "know" what that person said, of course this is saying that trillions of people would have the ability to communicate but that isn't going to be the case, I am thinking that it could be localized so that the telepathic communication cant go past a single point. Of course this is all Science fiction and I have no real way of explaining it so I do apologize if it seems weird.
2. This kind of project would require 100's of scientist but by himself he didn't take time to sleep and a project started because of his grieve and that whole mentality would cause people to start too lose it. Especially since he is only ending up with failures an he desperately wants to end the pain of the galaxy. Like I said before a sort of hive mind where everyone's minds are connected but I will admit it is a bit stretched I will agree too that so any help will be appreciated.
3. Well he thought he got rid of that trait but as you read that didn't happen, spending his last years of his live the man didn't have any other idea on how to go about unifying the galaxy so he doesn't stop as he struggles to finish the work before he dies. The effect vary but for most it will make the skin gray with the blood vessels turning black, the whites of the persons eyes might also turn black not sure and though again this is just a rough sketch, the body will be able to repair itself at a faster rate thanks to the virus and this will cause some mutation getting rid of natural skin and replacing it with a solo black substance again still a work in progress so not 100% if that idea will be kept.
4. The virus would have a sort of effect on the hive mind pushing the people too try and spread and eat (any organic matter) and in all honestly the guy had lost it at that point and figured that if he does spread it too the rest of the galaxy than peace would be made which it would only if there is a supply of organic. An yes he did know but not too the full extent he still has the body of a frail old man just now is a bit more stronger.
5. For the virus being sentient I cant say for 100% that it will or wont because like you said it would just open another can or worms but still trying to work this all out I cant say for certain about this, but for now just assume it will be so I can kind of see how people will feel about it and the pros and cons. Or even if it would work or not.

 

[TheSilentWind]

Haven't read all the posts. I also want to add that I forgot to mention it but I do think the name "black" does sound offensive, and as a black African, I am offended by it. I won't talk about your faction idea since it seems the others have addressed that(correct me if I'm wrong) and your last post here looks like it is talking about the faction and not the name. Additionally, it doesn't seem like you didn't seem to offend anyone but, again, I would believe it would be best if you changed it since its racist, regardless of whether it was a joke or not.

 

[Richie B.]

@TheSilentWind thank you but I will let you know that I won't be using that name just that I literally had no other name too call it so I used the name me and a few others used during the Naboo battle thread a link can be find in the first page, which gave me the inspiration to do this.

So I will like to say it isn't meant to be offensive but rather a joke hoping to get people too read this and hopefully be interested.

 

[TheSilentWind]

@TheSilentWind thank you but I will let you know that I won't be using that name just that I literally had no other name too call it so I used the name me and a few others used during the Naboo battle thread a link can be find in the first page, which gave me the inspiration to do this.

So I will like to say it isn't meant to be offensive but rather a joke hoping to get people too read this and hopefully be interested.

Yeah, Ik it was a joke. It is still racist though.

 

[Phoenix]

@TheSilentWind Just wanted to clarify something. It's really not racist. The reason for the original name "the black" wasn't at all a reference to race or anything of the nature. It was called that because the infection itself (not the people, was a black) oily substance that was simply called "the black." It wasn't a reference to anything about color, race or anything. That being said, if people do misinterpret or misread it as racist, it might be a good idea to change it (which it looks like it has been), but it was not designed as, intended for, or in any way even thought of in terms of race or racism. To the best of my knowledge that was never even in the minds of the creators.

 

[Outlander]

@TheSilentWind Just wanted to clarify something. It's really not racist. The reason for the original name "the black" wasn't at all a reference to race or anything of the nature. It was called that because the infection itself (not the people, was a black) oily substance that was simply called "the black." It wasn't a reference to anything about color, race or anything. That being said, if people do misinterpret or misread it as racist, it might be a good idea to change it (which it looks like it has been), but it was not designed as, intended for, or in any way even thought of in terms of race or racism. To the best of my knowledge that was never even in the minds of the creators.

Ben said earlier in this very thread that the original name of the thread was a joke about race.

 

[Phoenix]

Ben said earlier in this very thread that the original name of the thread was a joke about race.

I saw that, but since he wasn't the original creator, i'm not sure he can make that call. That being said if that's what he intended then i have no argument that he should change it and i would have to agree that it's racist.

 

[Richie B.]

@Outlander alright man you seem to really be confused when did I say it was a joke about race???? Please show me because that is not true. Heck if you read the entire thread you will see I never said it was a joke about race but I also said I took the name from the thread I got the inspirations from

 

[Outlander]

@Outlander alright man you seem to really be confused when did I say it was a joke about race???? Please show me because that is not true. Heck if you read the entire thread you will see I never said it was a joke about race but I also said I took the name from the thread I got the inspirations from

Dude, you just vaguely refer to joking when someone accused the name of being racist. I assume it was joking about how the Black sounds like the race.

 

[Richie B.]

So @Outlander i retread the entire thread so please stop your bullshitting is pretty rude dude

 

[Outlander]

So @Outlander i retread the entire thread so please stop your bullshitting is pretty rude dude

You what?

 

[Richie B.]

Heck man do you read my posts I even said i got the name from the thread that gave me the idea too do this.

Reread*

I read the entire thread never once did I say the name was about any race