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Vonlin

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Too mean having acolyte characters die during training? I see both sides of the argument as Sith its accurate...as roleplayers it sucks throwing away a character someone put work into that quickly.
 

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It would also considerably lower the amount of new sith available unless you want to go the route of making npc marauders. However having a character die during training would just have a person be a Jedi, indie, or imperial knight. No one wants to have a game over in the tutorial.
 

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It might be viable in very rare cases where the acolyte is just too dumb to live, but killing them for the hell of it just makes you an asshole and if it happens too often it turns people off to the idea of making a Sith.
 

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It might be viable in very rare cases where the acolyte is just too dumb to live, but killing them for the hell of it just makes you an asshole and if it happens too often it turns people off to the idea of making a Sith.

No one wants a game over in the tutorial. Trust me they won't press continue.
 

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No one wants a game over in the tutorial. Trust me they won't press continue.

Don't worry I'm not complementing killing you. But I know what you mean, some people won't want to start over from scratch again. Some would though and probably take another angle.

I think its a nice portrayal of the Sith in RP if the acolyte deserves it enough. But as an RPer I would just feel dirty doing it.
 

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lol, that's basically what Vanity said, Quill. He's just saying people as in RP'ers in general, not the guy who's char you killed.
 

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/Counts who many people died during under my Bogan training..

Well that explains some things.
 

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No one wants a game over in the tutorial. Trust me they won't press continue.

I think that attitude's really really wrong. I mean, what's more characterful than an angry/petty/vindictive Sith Lord or Marauder deciding that, y'know, **** YOU, just because you annoyed him/failed to meet expectations/other.

I think it would be weirder if the Sith weren't behaving like homocidal lunatics. And I don't think it would put me off going again. Maybe I would try and get a different master, but... yeah. Perhaps for really new people, if it's their first RP ever, or just here, perhaps. But I just think it's a case of being more thick-skinned.

S'only a game, after all.
 

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/Counts who many people died during under my Bogan training..

Well that explains some things.

How many did die during Bogan training? You'll have to forgive me I wasn't around at the time.
 

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I would love to see this. Just saying.
 

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I think that attitude's really really wrong. I mean, what's more characterful than an angry/petty/vindictive Sith Lord or Marauder deciding that, y'know, **** YOU, just because you annoyed him/failed to meet expectations/other.

I think it would be weirder if the Sith weren't behaving like homocidal lunatics. And I don't think it would put me off going again. Maybe I would try and get a different master, but... yeah. Perhaps for really new people, if it's their first RP ever, or just here, perhaps. But I just think it's a case of being more thick-skinned.

S'only a game, after all.

It's much deeper than homicidal lunaticery when you are a Sith, I'm sure. But come on that's just being a dick. When someone loses a character who they put a great deal of thought into, during the tutorial in which the character is supposed to learn the game, that's messed up. A character dying due to incompetence or defeat is one thing. A dick move or fake difficulty is a whole other notion which is what I picture this idea moving towards. I would support the death of someone who basically is just not going to cut it and will die shortly after the tutorial anyway.
 

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If you make a Sith, err on the side of "another Sith is going to kill me." That way you won't do things to piss a character off, and you can avoid being killed.
 

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I think the conclusion I am drawing to is that it can be done, but should be done tastefully. By that I mean not too often and when it is done, with good reason, not randomly.

Not having any acolyte characters die would just be a bad representation of the Sith...I mean most of the people that attempted to get into or through the Sith Academy on Korriban in the time of KOTOR ended up dead.
 

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If you make a Sith, err on the side of "another Sith is going to kill me." That way you won't do things to piss a character off, and you can avoid being killed.

Exactly. Dying because you screwed up is tough. Dying because your master just decided to kill you during a coffee break is just plain stupid. The Sith will have a good reason to kill another Sith below them most of the time. Sith don't kill a person below them if it does not benefit them or the whole of the Sith.
 

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If you make a Sith, err on the side of "another Sith is going to kill me." That way you won't do things to piss a character off, and you can avoid being killed.

Exactly, when you create a Sith the risk you are taking is being killed by someone within your faction.

Exactly. Dying because you screwed up is tough. Dying because your master just decided to kill you during a coffee break is just plain stupid. The Sith will have a good reason to kill another Sith below them most of the time. Sith don't kill a person below them if it does not benefit them or the whole of the Sith.

For the record I never meant they should just be killed off randomly, of course it would happen because they were seen as weak or the other Sith saw something to gain from it.

Edit: Btw I think you are admitting then that with reason it is ok to kill off acolyte characters aren't you?
 

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Yeah I said that it's fine to kill an acolyte with good reason last page or just up a few on this one.
 

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I don't think that has ever happen, though I was a post away from killing Fawn off in the Sith mission we're doing.
 

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Ya my master went pretty hard on me. We dueled and I was supposed to find the meaning of the duel before it went too long or I was killed. I had to ask for a hint one time but I made it through =D
 
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