Type-15s Silenced Carbine

[Gaiaverse]

Affiliation: Made by Blastech, whoever is interested in buying.

Ownership: Anyone who wants one.

Intent: To give assassin/crazy prepared PC's a ranged stealth weapon. As a silenced blaster is dumb and I doubt most people want to lug around a slugthrower unless it fulfills a specific purpose and does it well.

Model: Type-15s Silenced Carbine

Type: Slugthrower

Size: Being a carbine, the Type-15s is very small, being easy to use in cramped spaces (cars, vehicles the like) and can easily be held and fired (through with little accuracy) in one hand.

Composition: Standard weapon materials for the rifle itself, through they are coated with a non-reflective paint to prevent glares. The internal silencer is constructed with lighter, flimsier materials.

Range: 300 meters

Ammunition Capacity: 25 round magazine.

*Features: 1-Small, compact and easy to hide.
2-Is almost completely silent, making a faint thump when fired. Only the most keen eared and paranoid of people can decipher the real source of the sound, most will just think it's either the wind, something bumping into another thing or any other rationalization.
3-Armor penetration is not the best, but the rifle is very accurate, making headshots and such much easier.
4-Can be dissembled and assembled quickly and easily. It is not uncommon for assassins to dissemble it place it in the duffle bag or brief case, get to a sniping position and assemble it there. The fastest someone has ever done so is six seconds.
5-Ammunition is subsonic.

 

[Kiro]

Yeah, no. I'm sorry, @Gaiaverse but slugthrowers are specifically meant to be severely underwhelming compared to blasters. It won't penetrate any armour, and will always underperform. Considering the only canon slugthrower we have is the Tusken Cycler rifle, which was very loud, very big, and most importantly SINGLE SHOT, I'm not too keen on approving this, especially as it seems to be far more designed to be a Jedi Killer than anything else.

However, in the interest of fairness, I'm going to tag @Clayton in on this to hear his thoughts.

 

[Gaiaverse]

Yeah, no. I'm sorry, @Gaiaverse but slugthrowers are specifically meant to be severely underwhelming compared to blasters. It won't penetrate any armour, and will always underperform. Considering the only canon slugthrower we have is the Tusken Cycler rifle, which was very loud, very big, and most importantly SINGLE SHOT, I'm not too keen on approving this, especially as it seems to be far more designed to be a Jedi Killer than anything else.

However, in the interest of fairness, I'm going to tag @Clayton in on this to hear his thoughts.

I think I made it clear that this rifle doesn't have good penetration and is meant for head shots and such.

I also don't see how's it is designed to be a Jedi killer, that thought never crossed my mind when making it.

Also the Tusken Cycler rifle is made by primitive savages who are xenophobic and will probably never make diplomatic contact with someone. I would persume that slug throwers made by a company like blastech would not have those limitations.

 

[Outlander]

I think I made it clear that this rifle doesn't have good penetration and is meant for head shots and such.

I also don't see how's it is designed to be a Jedi killer, that thought never crossed my mind when making it.

Also the Tusken Cycler rifle is made by primitive savages who are xenophobic and will probably never make diplomatic contact with someone. I would persume that slug throwers made by a company like blastech would not have those limitations.

I think the 'slugs being worse' is just a baseline for this timeline. Basically, any tech that is a slugthrower will have to be comparably worse than its blaster counterpart.

Why is a carbine meant for headshots?

 

[Intratec]

Please don't hurt me for butting in!

Even with a headshot should the person be wearing a helmet it'd likely not penetrate. Not trying to sound mean or anything, but we're dealing with a universe that has an incredibly diverse supply of metamaterials. Especially one where helmets are pretty much commonplace. And while slugthrowers make noises I so love (Being a bit of a gun nut myself.), they are still beholden to their chemical propellant. Because the name of the game for slugthrowers is velocity. Caliber plays a role, but velocity is an incredibly important factor.

And if a person desired more out of their weapons, the propellant would have to become more powerful, and as a result the weapon itself would need redesigns, and newer materials or reinforcements added which may make the weapon either too complicated or expensive to mass produce. But I do echo Outlander's question. Why headshots?

 

[Gaiaverse]

I reason I said headshots is since most guards probably don't use helmets or ones that cover their entire face. This isn't meant to be used on a open battlefield, so the user probably has time to aim their shots.

 

[Elijah Brockway]

I mean, the Tusken Cycler could only penetrate stormtrooper armour at weak spots where there is no armour or through the eyes, and we all know how useless stormtrooper armour was, so basically, you have to be crazy accurate with any slugthrower ever anyways.

Also, Tusken Cyclers were bolt action with a 12 to 15 round capacity, not single shot. That's a big difference. Semi-automatic isn't really out of the realm of possibility either, considering some slugthrower designs we saw in the old EU, when we've barely seen anything at all in the new EU; all we see in the new EU is just talk about "Cycler rifles" and talking about how they have extreme ranges and could tear limbs completely off the owners' bodies they were so strong. Which kinda goes against what they want to have with slugthrowers in this timeline, but still.

 

[Kiro]

@Gaiaverse - Still interested in this?

The reason I call it a Jedi-killer is because you fire bullets that'd punch through their robes, that they can't hear, see, or deflect in semi-automatic or automatic/burst fire. It's basically a weapon that's built to kill Jedi/Sith.

 

[Gaiaverse]

@Gaiaverse - Still interested in this?

The reason I call it a Jedi-killer is because you fire bullets that'd punch through their robes, that they can't hear, see, or deflect in semi-automatic or automatic/burst fire. It's basically a weapon that's built to kill Jedi/Sith.

Don't most Sith and Jedi PC's wear armor? I mean, I'm fine with this weapon being weaker (which I think is the rule on slugthrowers anyways), if that's what you want.

 

[GABA]

So this just a light automatic slugthrower with a silencer?

 

[Clayton]

Hmm, subsonic rounds I definitely wouldn't give any armor penetration at all unless someone stood there and let you shoot them over and over. Also, automatic? I'm iffy on that, very iffy.

 

[Gaiaverse]

So this just a light automatic slugthrower with a silencer?

Semi-Automatic.

 

[Dawyn]

Somewhat interested in the ruling/discussion on this as I was working on something similar, albeit an assault rifle with more detail on how it would work + nerfed range wise as when I was researching subsonic ammunition, I found that it tended to have a shorter effective range due to the heavier weight of the bullets and slower velocity. But seeing as how it seems there will be little to no armor penetration allowed for silenced slugthrowers, I'm wondering what weapon more stealthy characters should use, as blasters aren't exactly quiet. Anyone have any suggestions?

 

[Outlander]

Somewhat interested in the ruling/discussion on this as I was working on something similar, albeit an assault rifle with more detail on how it would work + nerfed range wise as when I was researching subsonic ammunition, I found that it tended to have a shorter effective range due to the heavier weight of the bullets and slower velocity. But seeing as how it seems there will be little to no armor penetration allowed for silenced slugthrowers, I'm wondering what weapon more stealthy characters should use, as blasters aren't exactly quiet. Anyone have any suggestions?

Knife-gun

 

[Korvo]

There's actually several weapons on Wookieepedia fairly similar to this, save for the standardized inclusion of a silencer. So long as it is not fully automatic (ie, a machine gun), there shouldn't be a problem - most slugthrowers in the EU were semi or bolt action anyways.

However, it's worth nothing that silencers slightly reduce the muzzle velocity munition rounds (iirc). Add in that these rounds are already subsonic and near-useless against any conventional armoring or protection, I have to kinda question the practicality of such a weapon, unless you're scoring headshots on absolutely everyone. Something else to keep in mind is that bolt action suppressed rounds with a subsonic are one thing, but repetitive thwipping sounds (what you'd get with a semi-automatic) are not exactly discrete. If anything, identically patterned and hushed noises might actually draw attention in a quieted setting, but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Now then, since I don't see anything objectionable...

 

[Mad Dog]

Is this the only silenced weapon on here?