Trial of Heroes - Klatooine - OOC

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Hey!
Just thought I'd make this for our duel. Would you like to post first or shall I?
 

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Hey @Pureblood-Sin is there any way you could explain what it is Uhrsek is doing? That way I don't miss anything in my post.

I'd appreciate it.
 

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What he's doing is that he's jumping above Cal's attack with a slight spin, and then using the Force to allow himself to drop a potent stomp onto Cal's arm (basically by pushing himself downward at a faster speed). He's hoping to catch it on the ground and cause it snap from an impact caused by it landing it in a weird position with such force. As he's doing that, he's using his lightsaber to strike at Cal's hand as he makes his descent, just in case the arm doesn't break as intended or to dissuade a further attack.

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Thanks!

I'll get a post up sometime today.
 

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@Pureblood-Sin

Hey sorry but I have one last question about your post. I need to know just how far Uhrsek jumped in the air.

It says in your post he jumped over Calvyn, who stands a little over six feet, then did a clockwise turn. I'd imagine it being a great leap because he used the force to enhance his jump. (Correct me if I'm wrong) So like ten or twelve feet in the air? Also does Uhrsek jump directly over Calvyn? Like right over his head? And my finale question, the clockwise turn in your post. Does that mean clockwise like a spin or a flip?
 

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The clockwise thing was more of a half spin to bring both feet into position...and Uhrsek jumps just high enough to avoid the strike and then bring himself crashing onto the arm.

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Jumps high enough to avoid the strike? Calvyn was aiming for Uhrsek's calf. So did Uhrsek even get high enough to come crashing down on Calvyn with both feet?
 

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Never mind the above, I posted.
 

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I'm sorry but I have a problem with your post. However before I get into it please read this as if I'm reading you Snow White before bed time. Happy, friendly and soothing.

I don't think Uhrsek could have blocked Cal's lightsaber attack the way you described. I feel like it'd be an impossible movement and here is why.

1. Uhrsek ducked into a roll, thus leaving his legs behind and unprotected.
1a. Calvyn was directly behind Uhrsek because as soon as Uhrsek rolled, Calvyn dashed forward and made his strike.
2. You say Uhrsek then dove forward which is much different then a roll. You also said his hand where extended like that of a breaststroke.
2a. So if your hands are that far out, then there is no way Uhrsek, being as big as he is, can flick his wrist and block Cal's strike at his ankle.
2b. Much less would that kind of deflection have enough force to block Cal's strike.

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By diving into a roll, Uhrsek would leave his legs more open to the strike whilst a crouching roll could result in a strike on anywhere but the leg. As for the whole breaststroke thing, its the motion of someone who's trying not to slash themselves whilst rolling...and having been wacked in the face and chest by breaststroke-like movements, and the fact that they are used to propel a person through water, they do indeed have enough strength to counter a lightsaber strike aimed at the target, though the wrist flex will probably cause a flair of pain up the arm (yeah, I actually experimented with this movement...its not pleasant, but there's plenty of momentum to parry the blow).

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Sorry I've been busy with RL stuff is there anyway I can have a 24 hour extension? @Arclight

I promise I'll post tomorrow sometime.

Also @Pureblood-Sin
Sorry, I'm just finding it hard to believe that Uhrsek could deflect Cal's strike while he's in mid-roll. It just seems a bit unlikely.
 

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Sorry I've been busy with RL stuff is there anyway I can have a 24 hour extension? @Arclight

I promise I'll post tomorrow sometime.

Also @Pureblood-Sin
Sorry, I'm just finding it hard to believe that Uhrsek could deflect Cal's strike while he's in mid-roll. It just seems a bit unlikely.
24 hour extension granted. For future reference, please use the report function to request extensions.
 

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I was reading through the thread, and this needs to be noted. As a former competitive swimmer and coach (both high school and college), there is a massive difference between a "breaststroke" maneuver in the water and out of the water. I have to "pull" in the water because there is resistance, this forces my arms to work harder. There is no such resistance if you are "pulling" through air. If you have every done drills you know there is a big difference in how it feels in the water and how it feels on land.

The strength of the pull comes from trying to move your arms faster through the water. If you pull harder at the air, you are just whipping your arms faster backward. There really wouldn't be an significant strength behind them. Also, there are like a million different ways to do breaststroke which doesn't make the maneuver very clear at all.
 

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Due to the fact that today is my last to post and we still have yet to finish our conversation. I decided it'd be best to just bring in a third party. So I reported the last post.
 

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Uhrsek would be deflecting just after he began to make a move.

As for the whole breaststroke thing, its the closest I could describe the motion that would allow Uhrsek to maintain an active lightsaber without singeing himself, and then defending himself as he moved away, as such a move would have initially been born as a deterrent, but Uhrsek would pour enough strength into it to ensure that it could live up to its intended result.
 

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So I haven't finished reviewing, but the biggest issue is the diving into a roll while trying to deflect this. Not even taking the mechanics of the deflection at all into consideration, diving into a roll requires the work of your arms to make that motion work, otherwise you're likely to just ram your head into the ground, let alone being able to move your arms (you specify arms in your post) in complex fashion. As such, the maneuvers of post #11 are unlikely to succeed. I have not fully finalized my review and ruling, and will reply once that has been done.

 

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Also just a note, Calvyn made a slash at Uhrsek's legs while he was performing his movement. So if you do need both hands to perform the roll then that basically leaves your legs defense-less to his saber attack. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
 
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