The Sontrebren Crew

[Viggy]

The threads are done. Figure out what happened OOC if you feel the need. We can't have them Roleplaying characters who have died.

That seems unfair. The events of the Warburg and Rivals threads are set before the events of 'Into the Cosmos' (the thread where the leaders died). There are a lot of members involved in the Warburg and Rivals threads and a lot of work was put into them to make for a fun roleplay.

EDIT: Saw your edit, sounds good.

 

[Azazel]

Damn this is unexpected. the Capos take the leadership because I don't want to see the fraction go.

 

[D.C.]

Let's see what FaMily has to say about this, only because that would be just fair.

It's too bad their characters died, but it's not something to cry about, really. It's even quite interesting to see what happens to this faction next.

@Viggy: If we do reform this faction, add me to MSN and we can discuss things.

 

[FaMiLy]

It's quite bullshit to me. Considering I heard that you had to agree that your characters could die. Things will change, whom ever is a Capo needs to take control. Considering I can't just create a character to take charge.

 

[Ser Gregor]

It's quite bullshit to me. Considering I heard that you had to agree that your characters could die.

No, it isn't. The admins have the right to dictate that something done is cheap and unrealistic (ala you guys) and null-in-void it. You sealed your fate when you started getting all smart with Grognak and Pete, on their giant ass ****ing ship.

 

[FaMiLy]

I'm not bitching, trust me. I wouldn't do that, you consider it fair. But I just don't see the reasoning. Considering they can just whip you off a ship like that, then I could of killed a lot of characters in the past. I had heard that you had to agree to have somebody's character killed. That's the only reason i'm a little bit shaky on the subject. Apart from that wasn't my character only being reasonable?

 

[Ser Gregor]

No, he looked like he was making demands to his guests. That's what I read from it.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Your character was being very demanding and rude to Kurt and Dakar's characters. You may not have meant it that way but that's how it came across. That's why the characters decide to kill your characters. You were a perceived threat and nuisance, so they got rid of you.

Let's take a look at the final sequence of events.

1. Kurt and Dakar do the hangar thing, causing you to get sucked out into space unless you don't get to your ship. Fair.

2. You get to your ships within the 5-10 second window. Borderline, but fair.

3. When you're in your ships, you don't make any attempt to properly make the jump into hyperspace by entering coordinates into the nav computer, waiting for it to generate a course, etc. You could and should have. Fair.

4. The ship pummels you and Vanii with it's capital-class turrets. Fair.

5. You probably would not have done the hyperspace plotting thing, even if you were there too. You therefore die. Fair.
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There is no bullshit here. You could have avoided your deaths earlier had you chosen different actions while with Kurt and Dakar. Your fates were sealed when the hangar door opened. It was fair. However, had you properly done the hyperspace thing, you probably would have been allowed to go.

People need to start understanding that characters not only should die, but will die. This is going to be a much more dangerous timeline. The faction leaders and I are making sure of that. Start expecting the unexpected, ie. death, and definitely don't make a big deal over it.

Also, you don't have to give permission for your character to die. If that was the case, no one would die. The best deaths are the unexpected ones. Nexus, for example, was blind sided a few years ago when his Dark Lord of the Sith was murdered. It was an incredible death, and an unexpected one.

Go with the flow.

 

[Cailst]

Name: Nakaron Richese (Known as Pekt)
Age:20
http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/showthread.php?p=447022#post447022
Weapons: Blaster Rifle, Slug Pistol, and assorted grenades
Background: Son of Trandoshan leader though secretly, trying to get some experience out in the real world.

 

[FaMiLy]

Brandon I didn't had time to respond before the whole thread was declared that we were dead?

Anyhow considering i'm dead now. Either Viggy or Dark Cloud should take the crew over. I hope you two do well.

 

[Phil]

Well, I guess that the meeting with The Hutts is canceled now, considering they are on the same road as the thread they died in...

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Brandon I didn't had time to respond before the whole thread was declared that we were dead?

That was a judgment call that had to be made. Had you and Vanii both posted at the same time, you both would've done the same thing: jump to hyperspace like it was going into warp on Star Trek. I would have therefore declared you both dead, and I can't let you post after the fact and have Vanii die but let you live.

 

[Cailst]

Well, I guess that the meeting with The Hutts is canceled now, considering they are on the same road as the thread they died in...

Probably though I guess the new leader could try to contact the hutts again. Or if there is internal strife in the Sontrebren for leadership, perhaps the hutts could pick a favorite and support them. If they care enough.

 

[Phil]

Probably though I guess the new leader could try to contact the hutts again. Or if there is internal strife in the Sontrebren for leadership, perhaps the hutts could pick a favorite and support them. If they care enough.

I'll leave it up to FaMiLy and Vanii if they want to continue, as Vanii made a good save in the Hutt meating that could have possibly saved them from a firing force.

 

[FaMiLy]

That was a judgment call that had to be made. Had you and Vanii both posted at the same time, you both would've done the same thing: jump to hyperspace like it was going into warp on Star Trek. I would have therefore declared you both dead, and I can't let you post after the fact and have Vanii die but let you live.

I understand, i'm not going to moan and cry about it. Atleast I know now that I can kill people without their word. Anyhow the leadership will be passed to either Viggy or Dark. One of them will become underboss as the other will become Boss.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Atleast I know now that I can kill people without their word.

Like I said in my PM to you after you said this same thing, just remember that lack of permission doesn't mean lack of sense. You can't be the one to say that the bullet hit and killed someone, assuming you were shooting them. You need to post in a way that makes people think they have no other options, or in a way where they really do have no other option, other than dying. Don't take it as permission to go and kill everyone or anything.

 

[FaMiLy]

Like I said in my PM to you after you said this same thing, just remember that lack of permission doesn't mean lack of sense. You can't be the one to say that the bullet hit and killed someone, assuming you were shooting them. You need to post in a way that makes people think they have no other options, or in a way where they really do have no other option, other than dying. Don't take it as permission to go and kill everyone or anything.

I know, I know. I said I understood. :CHappy:

Anyhow, i'm going to stop posting now. So Dark or Viggy if you wish to pass any news on you may, I wouldn't mind. I'd like to see what happens. I'm sure you can do better then I did. I was ignorant and despising.

 

[Viggy]

Once me and Dark Cloud come up with a good new name, one of us is going to start a new thread for the reinvention of this faction. There all Crew members can discuss who we'll want to affiliate our Crew with, any changes in our organization, and so on. Some of the Soldiers may be promoted to the rank of Capo, or we might end changing the system of ranks.

Cailst, you should wait to until the new thread is up to join so we can decide where your character will be ranked and so on.

 

[Ser Gregor]

Like I said in my PM to you after you said this same thing, just remember that lack of permission doesn't mean lack of sense. You can't be the one to say that the bullet hit and killed someone, assuming you were shooting them. You need to post in a way that makes people think they have no other options, or in a way where they really do have no other option, other than dying. Don't take it as permission to go and kill everyone or anything.

Also remember it's a two way street, if you're being cheap, then you're going to die. However, if the person trying to kill you is being cheap then the admins we'll not let it go.

 

[Ka've]

Wow this went on really long. Ok here's my vote as Underboss.

I died, I accept it. Ok.

I can't believe you guys fought over that for that long. FaMiLy, i know it sucks but it was all for the best. Its a lessons well earned.

Phil, close the thread. I was going to get out of there if I could, then give you Hutts the finger.

Capo's, fight it out. There can be only one Boss and Underboss. I think you should create a meeting. And if I were you, I'd kill the rest, although you could try and create a alliance with the other.

OR you could try to avenge our deaths....its your call. We are business men. Or...were