The Bells

[Taz]

@Styx slightly annoying that you asked for edits, and then say that said edits some how effect increased timing. The jetpack hover happens as the floor gives way, it doesn't add time. Look at Fett or Mandos during Clone Wars see the effectiveness and quickness in witch a mando could effectively move and react with a jetpack.

More important though is your last two paragraphs. The attack on Rim needs more attention and better detail because it's hard to get a mental image. To me it seems you are trying to superman leap (or hop) to miss Dax's attacks. In that "hop" you are somehow managing to both connect with Rim's rips and grap his wrist on the same side and push his arm downward. What???

 

[Rimrald]

Rereading the post, the acension to 20m and firing at a distance under 35m (total distance from us ~30m since I was 10m from the building and he went up 20m.

Would mean the 4 bolts would travel in under a single second to impact, keeping in mind shared time in PvP you would probably be starting your whole spin move thing that’s hard to understand/imagine which is why I asked what you’re doing in more detail.

 

[Styx]

@Rimrald Sorry, I see now that I did you dirty with misremembering your "ambush" bit as a charge. I can take that out. And the hop is short. Essien previously flanked slightly to Juulius' side, then now hopped to slightly rotate around Juulius. Not a major travel. Not acrobatic. We were facing each other because you faced me, and we stayed facing each other. We did like a little dance together, just a little travel for Essien, with Juulius being the pivot point for the slight rotation. There's no landing behind you. To say that I'm behind you is in relation to Dax, it doesn't have anything to do with your front or back side. I have to speak to both of you so that's what that is.

@Taz I didn't mean that your edits gave me more time. I meant that your edits looked like you added more time to your actions but also looked like you quickened your reaction time to interrupt me when you hadn't before. So I reacted to you as taking just as long as I had originally imagined because it didn't seem to me like you could be that fast.

And, sorry, what is your question here? "In that "hop" you are somehow managing to both connect with Rim's rips and grap his wrist" Rips?

 

[Taz]

Ribs...i meant ribs. It says your attempting to hit his ribs on his left, while somehow blocking or maneuvering his left hand downward?

Plus neither myself or Rim really seem to understand what your going for. As for how you are flanking around the pile and Rim while completely dodging my attack while taking Rims arm and putting him between you and me. It's a lot

I suggest a massive edit. Cut the fluff and just write in great detail how you are dodging Dax while still maneuvering and attempting your attack, and with that add in now the better understanding of what Rim is really doing. Rather than making it kinda seem like he is perhaps charging your guy.

 

[Styx]

I said Essien contracted his ribs. His own ribs. Like the opposite of arching your back, contracting it. Rim is the one trying to hit my ribs.

 

[Rimrald]

I’d like to see you address the incoming blaster fire with more than relying on a simple sidestep or sidehop being your saving grace as at level 1 a character just isn’t that good.

 

[Styx]

A lvl 1 isn't good enough to sidehhop?

The dispute between Taz and I is imo more based on time before the shots. Could he get out of the building, not having seen or known about Essien yet IC to find him and get shots off. Anyone could try to sidehop shots from a run.

 

[Rimrald]

If you’re simply rotating it’s not like he’s just shooting at where you were previously standing and you didn’t really move that far.

All he has to do to find you is look around, it’s not like you’re hiding or look like a bystander. I dunno, I have a defense prepared but if Taz is still unhappy with your post that’s to be discussed.

 

[Styx]

Lateral rotation, yeah. In close relation to you, pretty dang close. We're tangled.

He's shooting at legs that are peddling in a run. Idk. He came out facing the opposite direction (EDIT: almost).

 

[Rimrald]

I think you’re overestimating how easy it is to look around and see someone, also being that Taz’s character is Level 2 and legs are half of your body I feel you’re also overestimating how easy it is to shoot someone in the legs from a mostly stable position (being that he didn’t fire until he was at the 20m mark in the air).

Dunno how else to explain it.

 

[Styx]

I think it’s pretty easy to get a quick peripheral glimpse of action behind. And, again, the dispute is imo the time leading up to the shots. But also, from my point of view it sounds like you guys might be relying too heavily on the lvl 2 thing. Idk. I sound like Anakin...

 

[Rimrald]

“as well as get the upper hand on Level 1 Force users. Their reaction speed and reflexes are sharper, rivaling that of a trained Jedi Knight, and they are capable of engaging multiple targets in front of them.”

You’re right I am leaning on a mechanic that shows clear differentiation between a Level 1 FS and a Level 2 NFS.

But the timing issue is that of itself an issue, I think we can get a non-ruling interpretation because we’re just talking in circles at this point and splitting atoms.

 

[Rimrald]

I was wrong it would have to go to report, so if this is still an issue @Taz please feel free to continue to converse here or make the report.

 

[Taz]

I don't think we need a ruling i think we need better descriptions and less fluff.

While yes we are relying on a pvp mechanic, it's there for that reason. 1s are basic, 2s are badass, 3s are more badass and 4s are near god like in ability.

That said i don't really mind your defense just that it's a simple hop and then all the other stuff. Its a lot of action taken for limited power and ability.

 

[Styx]

I don’t feel like it’s a lot of action, just a lot of words. I can try to edit it to simplify it? Maybe make a spoiler with simplified action, no fluff? Or put the current reply into a spoiler and then write a simplified version?

 

[Rimrald]

I believe he is referring to the second paragraph where you break down Taz’s positioning, when he refers to ‘fluff’

A more concise description of your movements and postition would go to make understanding and visualizing it easier for those who didn’t write it.

 

[Styx]

Ah. Got it. I’ll try, but I feel like I’m closer to having too much detail than not enough. But I’ll try.

 

[Styx]

@Taz @Rimrald Ok I edited. Lemmie know if that's better. Sorry, I was out earlier.

 

[Taz]

edit: you know what, if @Rimrald is good with it lets run with it.

 

[Rimrald]

Yeah not what I was thinking but let’s just get this PvP wrapped up.