Spies

[Aedan Archer]

Can anyone fill me on what the forum requirements/ rp style is for spies and how they are handled OOC/IC? I'm mainly asking about espionage between the Jedi and Sith where force sensitivity comes in play. I know this timeline the Jedi are more like Paladins/ Zealots with their views on the force, so would they logically send a force sensitive spy to the sith with their view on how the dark side works?

 

[Darasuum]

*spies lurking in the shadows*

 

[The Captain]

Yeah, I wanna know if espionage is on the table too.

 

[Xan]

Straight from the rule page.

Section VIII: Espionage

A. Espionage, for the purpose of these rules, are defined as acts against a faction by agents of another faction, be if for the purposes of spying, assassination, intelligence gathering, bombings, attacks, etc. These rules do not cover characters' personal plots and conspiracies, such as plotting to assassinate a rival.

B. Before an espionage operation begins, and in order to ensure effective oversight, the person performing the espionage must inform the staff. The staff keeps a private thread that has a list of all active spies, which faction they are spying for, and which faction they are spying on.

C. The faction leader of the faction being spied on need not be informed that their faction has a spy in it, nor need they be informed of who the spy is.

D. Players who are engaged in espionage are not required to tell other players that they are engaged in espionage, even if asked.

E. Players who are engaged in espionage must operate within the confines of the 1 Main Faction Only rule. As such, if a spy has infiltrated a faction, the individual may only have characters in the infiltrated Main Faction.
E.1. For agents of Independent Factions spying on Main Factions, the infiltrator in the Main Faction does count as part of the 2 Main Faction PCs only.
F. Preparation for attacks, assassinations, intelligence gathering, etc. must take place in OPEN threads, and must involve no less than five posts, to allow opportunities for response. There must be at minimum a 72 hour window between the creation of each prep thread and the completion of the prep thread. Non-chronological prep threads may start at the same time; for example, if two separate items are needed to carry out a later task and are created/obtained in separate threads, those two threads may be started the same time as long as they are completed before carrying out the task the two items are needed. At minimum there must be a 72 hour window between completion of the preparation thread(s) and the execution of the conspiracy/plot. OPEN threads do not require to advertise as espionage preparation threads. Intelligence gathering/information is allowed in ASK threads if the information was supplied freely and under no duress by a member of the faction who is not a spy.

G. In the aftermath of the espionage operation, Faction Leaders and the administration may request links to any and all preparation work performed prior to the execution of the espionage operation.

H. OOC information may not be used ICly to uncover an individual who is performing espionage or defecting. For example, in the aftermath of an espionage operation, a character is burned when the deceit is discovered ICly.

I. The administration retains the right to negate threads and remove spy privileges in the event that site rules are broken.

 

[Xan]

And as much as I hate double posting, I'll do it here (admins have mercy, pls). The short answer for whether the Jedi would condone espionage against the Sith is "yes." We are in a war after all.

 

[Darasuum]

And as much as I hate double posting, I'll do it here (admins have mercy, pls). The short answer for whether the Jedi would condone espionage against the Sith is "yes." We are in a war after all.

to piggyback your point xan i think that the current jedi order is in between the old republic way/jedi that existed during the mandalorian wars. there were jedi shadows and other parallel organizations that were auxiliary and the like that could have developed specialities towards that focus.

my own character, Geir Ambros is the moff of intelligence operations and other clandestine subjects so i'm trying to get into this sneaky stuff as well.

 

[Aedan Archer]

So I understand that the Jedi are willing to enlist spies against the Sith in this current timeline despite their devout beliefs, but what about Sith enlisting spies to infiltrate the Jedi? I'd imagine this will be hard to do regardless given the ability to detect force auras and the like (so someone has to be adept at doing so or be at a state of confusion where their auras may appear grey), but I don't see the current Jedi accepting defected Sith into their ranks or attempt to convert them. I more see Jedi trying to exterminate all users of the dark side. Can anyone confirm this?

 

[Darasuum]

So I understand that the Jedi are willing to enlist spies against the Sith in this current timeline despite their devout beliefs, but what about Sith enlisting spies to infiltrate the Jedi? I'd imagine this will be hard to do regardless given the ability to detect force auras and the like (so someone has to be adept at doing so or be at a state of confusion where their auras may appear grey), but I don't see the current Jedi accepting defected Sith into their ranks or attempt to convert them. I more see Jedi trying to exterminate all users of the dark side. Can anyone confirm this?

Some people are very zealous in their beliefs (IC) while there are characters that aren't really sith as a true sith would never be handled by jedi. At the point that a character is working for the jedi they aren't truelly a sith since they have to have a reason for wanting to help the jedi (unless they are using some leverage against them). So it would probably be some grey character invetween the two factions that is used to spy on one another.