Questions on Self training

[Krajin]

Seeing as it can be tough on getting into training threads and getting ahold of a mentor with the influx of Padawans, are there any approved methods of a Padawan being able to self teach? From Force powers through to combat styles.

Just curious!

 

[©razy Man]

You could always go Holocron scavenging! That's always a neat way to learn advance force powers! For the basics of force (Telekinesis, Telepathy, etc.) many Knights and Masters hold classes and would probably work with you on that on a one-on-one thread. Or you could just join a group training thread for anything a Master or Knight is holding!

 

[Zee]

Sorry to butt in, Krajin. I had a few related questions and figured out that there's little point in starting another thread ^^'

I'm wondering - is independent re-discovery of 'advanced' Force powers allowed? As an alternative to holocrons. Naturally, it would require a (hell) lot more work, both IC and in terms of writing, in order to be credible. But it has a certain charm. I've been considering something like this for my character, though, so I as wondering...

Second question: Is there a limit to the types of powers that characters of a certain rank can get? For example, I've been interested in something called Art of the Small (essentially using the Force at a microscopic level). I really like the concept and think it would fit Zee. My issue is that the wookiepedia page describes it as a ridiculously overpowered technique.But to me it seems that the technique isn't OP in itself, but just its documented uses are (it would have been as if the page for telekinesis only stated 'leveling cities' imo). So long story short, would it be all right to roleplay out a decent version of this thingie?

 

[Hopeless Wanderer]

If you are wanting to get in on some classes, check out my thread in the Jedi OOC boards. I'm offering training to all Jedi, Rebels, and Matukai in Force Techniques, Philosophy, and Martial Arts.

So, check them out if you want to train among peers and help forge an alliance between these three factions. Plus, I need to fill up the roster for the classes so they may begin.

I hope to see any of you guys/girls post showing interest. I'd link you to the thread, but I'm on my phone and in a hurry to get to work.

 

[StandbyRanger]

Seeing as it can be tough on getting into training threads and getting ahold of a mentor with the influx of Padawans, are there any approved methods of a Padawan being able to self teach? From Force powers through to combat styles.

Just curious!

Technically, yes. As you said, finding willing teachers and training threads which teach something you want can be hard to come by. From my perspective, the Force should be something that comes naturally to those with a strong sensitivity to it, therefore it would only be natural for a padawan to develop Force powers on their own. (I'll expand on that in my reply to Zee)

As for combat styles, I'm not so sure. Combat styles, such as lightsaber techniques would be difficult for a learner to develop on their own, as they have no one to properly instruct them and make sure they don't chop any limbs off. I would suggest finding a tutor for this especially if your character has no prior experience with a lightsaber.

Sorry to butt in, Krajin. I had a few related questions and figured out that there's little point in starting another thread ^^'

I'm wondering - is independent re-discovery of 'advanced' Force powers allowed? As an alternative to holocrons. Naturally, it would require a (hell) lot more work, both IC and in terms of writing, in order to be credible. But it has a certain charm. I've been considering something like this for my character, though, so I as wondering...

Second question: Is there a limit to the types of powers that characters of a certain rank can get? For example, I've been interested in something called Art of the Small (essentially using the Force at a microscopic level). I really like the concept and think it would fit Zee. My issue is that the wookiepedia page describes it as a ridiculously overpowered technique.But to me it seems that the technique isn't OP in itself, but just its documented uses are (it would have been as if the page for telekinesis only stated 'leveling cities' imo). So long story short, would it be all right to roleplay out a decent version of this thingie?

Question 1: Advanced powers are kind of tricky when it comes to this. You would need a lot of work and a lot of justification for a character to "re-discover" an advanced technique

Question 2a: Yes, there is a limit to what your character can learn based on rank. I wish we had a list showing which ones were and were not allowed for ranks because it would make it a lot easier. I know the Sith have one for themselves somewhere in the forums, but I don't think we do. Just as an example, since it's the best I can do with the information off the top of my head, when Rane was a padawan I wanted him to learn Force Repulse so I asked around. I eventually asked the previous Jedi FL and was told that it was an advanced technique and should best be left to when he achieved the rank of Knight. (Still haven't learned it though, which is kinda depressing :/ )

2b: In my opinion, I would say no. Because of the nature of Art of the Small, it would seem as though it would require a ton of control over a character's own Force power (ie Controlling molecules) and wouldn't be something a padawan could just learn, as they are in the baby stages of training still. I say, keep the power in mind so that once your character reaches Knight she can learn it.

But that's just me. I'd suggest talking to TAC about Art of the Small.

EDIT: This would pertain to both of you, holocrons are a good way of achieving advanced Force powers, as Crazy Man has already said. If I'm not mistaken, they'd even be useful for lightsaber combat.

I have some ideas in mind pertaining to holocron hunting myself, so keep your eyes open for that.

 

[Zee]

@Carnage: Already there )

@StandbyRanger: Thank you for your answer!

Yes, I agree that sensing/controlling molecules is too much for now. I imagined the beginnings as more related to cell/tissue-sized things. A potential idea that I had for my character is that, being so absurdly detail-focused, she'd have a jolly hard time consciously perceiving the Force on a scale larger than a milimeter. But, as you said, I should bother TAC about it. Once he's less busy, I guess.

 

[Khivas]

Ah, so we're allowed to do solo threads. Well then...

 

[StandbyRanger]

Ah, so we're allowed to do solo threads. Well then...

You sure are. I've done a few myself. Remember to keep them in reason however, and make sure everything is detailed. Don't just use it as an excuse to just give yourself advanced powers.

 

[Khivas]

I was actually looking at it to raise his Force Sense and Telekinesis lol MAYBE Tutaminis, but I need somebody to shoot at Khivas for that one =P

 

[Zay]

You sure are. I've done a few myself. Remember to keep them in reason however, and make sure everything is detailed. Don't just use it as an excuse to just give yourself advanced powers.

^
This, also be aware there's a thread that details this here <--- give that a bit of a look.

I'm sure Standbyranger and the others covered this thoroughly. I hope my link isn't spam. lol

Best wishes.

 

[TAC]

@Carnage: Already there )

@StandbyRanger: Thank you for your answer!

Yes, I agree that sensing/controlling molecules is too much for now. I imagined the beginnings as more related to cell/tissue-sized things. A potential idea that I had for my character is that, being so absurdly detail-focused, she'd have a jolly hard time consciously perceiving the Force on a scale larger than a milimeter. But, as you said, I should bother TAC about it. Once he's less busy, I guess.

I'll never be not busy. Feel free to bother. :)

I have, in the past, allowed some padawans a "specialization" where they are trained very basic fundamentals of advanced (and less lethal/dangerous) powers such as Art of the Small. That would be fine, if you have the justification, the teacher, and if it's the only power of the nature.

Ah, so we're allowed to do solo threads. Well then...

Yes, but I don't think they are exciting or impressive. If a writer wants to write a novel, maybe they can convince me to read it once it gets published. If you want to write about diverse interactions and overcoming terrifying obstacles as a part of a team crafting a well-thought out, well executed story.... Well, that's why we're here!

And that can be done with any writer using any character - doesn't have to be with other Jedi. We should be striving for the above in every thread.

^
This, also be aware there's a thread that details this here <--- give that a bit of a look.

I'm sure Standbyranger and the others covered this thoroughly. I hope my link isn't spam. lol

Best wishes.

^Training Guides are good.

 

[Khivas]

I can agree to a point on the solo threads. In my eyes it's best to use them very, very rarely, usually as a means to wrap up a very personal story for your character, but other than that you're absolutely right that an RP Forum with people should be played with People.

Now if you'll pardon me, I'm going to go ask a Rebel to shoot at my face.

 

[Undine]

As for combat styles, I'm not so sure. Combat styles, such as lightsaber techniques would be difficult for a learner to develop on their own, as they have no one to properly instruct them and make sure they don't chop any limbs off. I would suggest finding a tutor for this especially if your character has no prior experience with a lightsaber.

Another idea, to build on what Standby suggested, is the use of training droids or sparring with fellow padawans to self-teach is a viable option should you be unable to find an instructor, or just want to test your skills against a fellow padawan.

On the matter of developing advanced or rare Force abilities, I prefer to lay the groundwork so to speak before I have my PC discover a new ability. For instance, my Knight Jade was never trained in the use of Revitalize, instead she developed it naturally as an advanced healing technique. Her usage of it stems from a base in her Force Healing, which she had an innate talent for and then developed further. Now it wasn't till she was a Knight that she developed it, but the point is that almost everything can be learned or developed passively, one ability leading to the next so to speak.​

 

[TAC]

Another idea, to build on what Standby suggested, is the use of training droids or sparring with fellow padawans to self-teach is a viable option should you be unable to find an instructor, or just want to test your skills against a fellow padawan.

On the matter of developing advanced or rare Force abilities, I prefer to lay the groundwork so to speak before I have my PC discover a new ability. For instance, my Knight Jade was never trained in the use of Revitalize, instead she developed it naturally as an advanced healing technique. Her usage of it stems from a base in her Force Healing, which she had an innate talent for and then developed further. Now it wasn't till she was a Knight that she developed it, but the point is that almost everything can be learned or developed passively, one ability leading to the next so to speak.​

Yes. But it still shouldnt be all that great if you havent been formerly trained.

 

[Undine]

Yes. But it still shouldn't be all that great if you haven't been formerly trained.

Formally trained by who? As far as I know, Jade is the only Jedi on the site that uses it, not to mention the only Jedi I've seen so far to specialize in the healing applications of the Force to such an extent. If you know of a PC trained in such things I'd be more than grateful to know of them. As of yet however, I created an entire sect of Force users within the species I created for the site just so Jade would have a group of healers to learn from.​

 

[TAC]

Formally trained by who? As far as I know, Jade is the only Jedi on the site that uses it, not to mention the only Jedi I've seen so far to specialize in the healing applications of the Force to such an extent. If you know of a PC trained in such things I'd be more than grateful to know of them. As of yet however, I created an entire sect of Force users within the species I created for the site just so Jade would have a group of healers to learn from.​

Oh I wasnt saying it for you, just in general. The exception is in cases like that. Larik was the same way with some of his stealthy powers.

i think bubak had a healer. I remember his jedi healing himself when Larik broke his arm.

 

[Undine]

i think bubak had a healer. I remember his jedi healing himself when Larik broke his arm.

Runs to look up this mythological bubak... realizes he hasn't been on in over a year...

I am formalling taking it upon myself to train the next generation of Force Healers, (pulls out megaphone) We shall hold back the darkness with our love and sense of community, let your lights shine everyone, the age of the Flower Power is here!​

 

[Elijah Brockway]

Runs to look up this mythological bubak... realizes he hasn't been on in over a year...

praise be to the admins

also yay more healing focus is always a good thing

 

[Richie B.]

Undine your not alone my character is also a force healer don't worry :)