Mustafar: Arau’kesh J’av v Cremek OOC

[Altaris]

A report and request for ruling was received about this thread. Before I get into that, however, I want to once again remind both parties to keep all OOC discussion regarding the PVP either in a public thread on site, or in a public channel on discord. This is frequently mentioned for members participating in PVP threads. Back room DMs are really not the place for these discussions to be taking place, particularly during high stake duels.

With that said, moving on to the ruling itself.

To begin, Cremek's block of the thrust with his left-handed lightsaber does qualify as an adequate defense. J'aver is repositioning completely onto Cremek's left flank and crouching before the attempted thrust to Cremek's side. It is not unreasonable that Cremek would be able to block a killing blow on the same side he is holding his lightsaber, particularly as he had already written in minor damage.

However, Cremek's use of Tutaminis would not qualify as an adequate defense against the Force Pull. As an ability, Tutaminis absorbs tangible sources of energy into the Force through the extremities - commonly seen against applications of Force Lightning, Pyrokinesis, Plasma blasterbolts, etc. Something intangible like Telekinesis would not fall into that category. Additionally, Tutaminis cannot be used to replenish ones strength/energy reserves. As a result, Cremek would be pulled downward and towards the saber attack from J'aver before it is blocked. (See above)

Final ruling: Cremek takes moderate damage to his left flank/ribcage from Ja'ver's attack. @Hastur will need to edit your post to remove mention of using Tutaminis to enhance Cremek's strength.

As per usual, this ruling is final and not up for debate.

@Hastur @Apollyon

 

[Apollyon]

Requesting an extension on my posting round while waiting for the edits to be made.

 

[Apollyon]

@Hastur per the ruling the damage sustained was not minor but moderate. Moderate damage would be more than a small hole or flesh wound. As stated in the ruling it would impact the area hit, in this case the left flank or left rib cage. Please read the ruling thoroughly and ask questions if you have any.

 

[Apollyon]

Also, you mentioned Cremek thrusting down, is that a thrust as in a stab towards J'av or is Cremek swinging downwards to block the thrust and then attempting to pin J'av's blade? I'm wanting to ensure that when I post, I do so accurately to reflect your intentions and not what I interpret.

 

[Hastur]

ack, im sorry, my lack of brain cells in the last couple days are killing me, anyways, thanks for the feedback!

 

[Hastur]

Also, you mentioned Cremek thrusting down, is that a thrust as in a stab towards J'av or is Cremek swinging downwards to block the thrust and then attempting to pin J'av's blade? I'm wanting to ensure that when I post, I do so accurately to reflect your intentions and not what I interpret.

and also, if I did it correctly, it should have been an attempt at blocking the saber, rather than attacking j'av himself. thats if I didn't goof it up.

 

[Apollyon]

and also, if I did it correctly, it should have been an attempt at blocking the saber, rather than attacking j'av himself. thats if I didn't goof it up.

No, that is all I needed to know! Thank you.

 

[Apollyon]

@Hastur just do I have your intentions on point. Cremek’s saber gauntlet is being activated via the force I’m assuming and J’av’s blade is being caught on the lower blade? I just want an accurate picture in my head.

 

[Hastur]

If I did things correctly then yes, that should be how it's going!

 

[Apollyon]

@Hastur I’m a little confused on your last post as it seems like a self negation. Per your post two rounds ago, Cremek did a downward thrust, using his quillons to pin J’av’s lightsaber. Then when J’av utilized trakata to bypass his guard he used his gauntlet to block the strike and do a quick (not short) thrust per your last post.

Given the fact Cremek never rose his blade up and a target for the thrust was never specified, I assumed it was center of mass on J’av. This means the quillons would be FAR too low to stop the slash across his upper torso. Quillons aren’t more than vents and aren’t full cross-guards typically.

As it stands I’m not convinced that your post adequately deals with what J’av has done.

 

[Hastur]

you raise a valid point lamo, my brain and imagination ran off again

one second ree

 

[Apollyon]

you raise a valid point lamo, my brain and imagination ran off again

one second ree

It’s okay. Just remember, include as much detail as you can. The more you provide for what your character is doing the better. You want to paint an accurate and articulable verbal picture of what your character is doing and how they interact with the opponent. So try to be as clear and concise as you can, also be realistic. A character can’t reasonable for see every counter and or trick.

 

[Hastur]

solid advice! yeah my pvp skills when it came to description never was the best imo.

 

[Apollyon]

@Hastur once again, this slash is occurring between Cremek’s left arm, his torso, and directly underneath the bottom blade of Cremek’s lightsaber gauntlet. It’s going across his upper torso/lower chest in a horizontal fashion to bisect him. I don’t think that would hit his visor.

 

[Apollyon]

According to your initial counter, it’s closer to his left armpit than his waist as well.

 

[Hastur]

man i'm just an absolute goober at this aint I lol.

 

[Apollyon]

man i'm just an absolute goober at this aint I lol.

Don’t worry about it, everyone learns at some point. Pvp is all about description, acting things out, and ensuring that your post doesn’t amount to a power play. The biggest thing to remember in Phoenix’s guideline is that outside of levels 3-4 your character isn’t that good. They are fallible and that’s okay. That’s why J’av took hits that I could have easily written them avoiding, they are fallible and couldn’t possibly react fast enough to evade them, even in lighter armor.

 

[Apollyon]

Okay let’s pause and remember the positioning of our lightsabers. J’av’s blade was beneath the bottom blade of Cremek’s gauntlet at the start of my round right? So slashing low wouldn’t be possible given the placement of J’av’s lightsaber, now Cremek COULD slash at J’av upper torso! But the lower torso is an impossible target until after J’av’s blade is already clearing Cremek’s body.

 

[Apollyon]

Keep in mind as well, if your character cannot feasibly stop the strike or evade it then the next best thing to do is minimize its impact.

 

[Hastur]

thats what I'm going for, with cremek moving and attacking back