J.J. Abrams wants to take 'Star Wars: Episode VII' back to the series' grittier roots

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Good, more monologues about sand
 

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He also praised that "Dear J.J." video with the four rules (Star Wars is dangerous, mysterious, gritty, and set on the frontier), which I really liked.
 

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Cool, I really hope the aesthetics are closer to the original trilogy.
 

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k.

Still don't want the movies to happen, but hey, this is good for people who do.
 

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Cool news, but it isn't really news. Everyone knows that Abrams basically considers OT-era Lucas a God. It was a foregone conclusion that he would want his own movies to match those, moreso than the Prequels.

That's good, but I can't help but feel worried. I don't want Abrams' boner for the OT to cloud his own creativity. I don't want Star Wars the Original Trilogy 2.0. I don't want to see a movie with the same cliches and basic plot points as the OT. I want Abrams story to be his own.

I want a female protagonist, God damn it.
 

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Uhm, Abrams isn't this great bombastic filmmaker people seem to think he is.

I'd describe him as competent, he can make a movie, he sort of knows how to shoot action effectively but does sometimes dissolve his works into Greengrass shaky cam and over saturated lighting. His direction of how to meld the score into the final sound edit is also a little jarring. His penchant for emotionally manipulating an audience can get pretty desperate at times, Lost was the worst example of that kind of approach to character dynamics because the emotional beats seemed so damn forced a lot of the time. I'd rather he was only superficially involved in the makings of the actual story, I wish they'd hired a far superior director, like Cuaron, who can balance all the necessary elements visually very well, but is also a good storyteller. Thankfully Lawrence Kasdan is writing the script, although I hope he has more of a say in things than anyone else will, I doubt he will.

But yeah, a female hero would be great, but I'm sure we'll just be getting a bunch of white dudes, because Hollywood.
 

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Another thing Abrams has a penchant for is female characters. He created Felicity and Alias, and he recently said that his favorite character he's ever created is Sydney Bristow. I don't know if there will be a female protagonist, but that at least is a plus in that direction. His Star Trek even makes Bones more of a supporting character in order to make Uhura part of the new big three.
 

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Yeah, and Uhuru's character is ''I love Spock''.....that's it.
 

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Yeah, the notion that Abrams has done nothing but good for female characters in storytelling is pretty laughable, to be honest with you.
 

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Another thing Abrams has a penchant for is female characters. He created Felicity and Alias, and he recently said that his favorite character he's ever created is Sydney Bristow. I don't know if there will be a female protagonist, but that at least is a plus in that direction. His Star Trek even makes Bones more of a supporting character in order to make Uhura part of the new big three.

Yeah but Uhura also spent half of her time complaining about her relationship with Spock and not really focusing on the task at hand. The biggest example being her Spock, and Kirk going down to try and get Kahn risking their very lives and a war that could lead to the deaths of millions...and she decides this is the best time to bring up her relationship. Which by that time I just couldn't buy. She's been with this guy for years and she hasn't picked up on the fact that he's emotionally distant on his best days?
 

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The fault there is ultimately with the screenwriters, who are consistently poor in other stuff they've done too, but ultimately Abrams approved of it.
 

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Yeah but Uhura also spent half of her time complaining about her relationship with Spock and not really focusing on the task at hand. The biggest example being her Spock, and Kirk going down to try and get Kahn risking their very lives and a war that could lead to the deaths of millions...and she decides this is the best time to bring up her relationship. Which by that time I just couldn't buy. She's been with this guy for years and she hasn't picked up on the fact that he's emotionally distant on his best days?

Yup. Like I said, she wasn't very good in that movie.
 

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I liked Uhura in the new films, with the exception of the Spock romance story, it was good to see a strong female lead, not as strong as Ripley from Aliens, but more so than Padme for sure.
 

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I liked Uhura in the new films, with the exception of the Spock romance story, it was good to see a strong female lead, not as strong as Ripley from Aliens, but more so than Padme for sure.

Liking something /=/ something actually being good.

Comparing Uhura in the Abram's films to Ripley in any sense is laughable.

Padme wasn't a character, she was a stoic plot device that sometimes spoke words.
 

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Liking something /=/ something actually being good.

Comparing Uhura in the Abram's films to Ripley in any sense is laughable.

Padme wasn't a character, she was a stoic plot device that sometimes spoke words.

I didn't say they were on the same level.
 

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I didn't say they were on the same level.

Didn't say you did, including them in the same sentence in the first place is a little baffling. Unless your sentence is:

''Uhura in the Abrams films is nothing like and bears absolutely no connections to Ellen Ripley from the Alien films.''
 
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