Is Science the new Religion?

[Adamis]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(adroit @ Apr 15 2007, 11:47 AM) [snapback]159151[/snapback]</div>

No, the point is that there's too many people in the world, and those who have money want to keep their money. It does not matter what I do, or you do, it does not matter what a hundred million people do, the damage we have caused is irreversible. Once the waves start splashing, we cannot stop them with our hands, for the ocean is always fairly larger than the amount of hands we can get to stand in the way.[/b]

So you're just going to be a lamb are you? Just go along with the herd? "No-one else is doing anything so why should I?" Do you have be part of the crowd that baddly? You don't even have to do anything big for crying out loud. Planet a tree, take the train or bus, buy a hybrid car, recycle, its not environmental science here. Every little bit helps. Get other people to do the same. Are you really willing to risk everything just because you were too lazy to change even slightly.

I'm not talking about joining Greenpeace and stopping the deforestation of the Amazon or you finding a way to stop Global Warming by yourself, just little things. You doing your little part, and if everyone does their part then we may stop something terrible from happening. But if you really want a wave coming in your front door or having to wear artic clothing to go for a walk to the local store then go ahead and be a lazy arse who does nothing because its slightly harder than what hes used to.

 

[Sabre]

I personally can't be fucked to do jack, buy a boat.

 

[Sovereign]

Like Adroid said, it's in our nature to destroy ourselves. If this Global Warming thing is true (in a way that we're all going to die) , and that we may in some way, prevent it, something else is still going to annihilate us anyway; whether it is World War 3 or some gigantic meteor. Humanity will not go on forever, and neither will you. So, what's the point?

 

[Sabre]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Darth Nefarius @ Apr 15 2007, 02:00 AM) [snapback]159161[/snapback]</div>

Like Adroid said, it's in our nature to destroy ourselves. If this Global Warming thing is true (in a way that we're all going to die) , and that we may in some way, prevent it, something else is still going to annihilate us anyway; whether it is World War 3 or some gigantic meteor. Humanity will not go on forever, and neither will you. So, what's the point?[/b]

Precisely, fuck your cousins while you still have the chance.

 

[Green Ranger]

Existentialism ftw.

 

[Ser Gregor]

Wow, the ignorance and laziness here is unbelievable. :thumbdown:

 

[Sovereign]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tanas Aidlo @ Apr 14 2007, 09:27 PM) [snapback]159164[/snapback]</div>

Wow, the ignorance and laziness here is unbelievable. :thumbdown:[/b]

Just because we're not part of your little ecological clique, doesn't mean we're ignorant.

 

[Ser Gregor]

You're ignorant of the problem, denying it, and even then, you say, well, if that doesn't fuck us over, something else will.

That's ignorance.

 

[Green Ranger]

I recognize the problem, and I know that we must do things about it, but honestly, I care more about bringing those worse off to a better standard of living, rather than worrying about our own state of living for the next hundred years.

 

[Ser Yorick]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Adamis / Kal @ Apr 14 2007, 08:00 PM) [snapback]159152[/snapback]</div>

So you're just going to be a lamb are you? Just go along with the herd? "No-one else is doing anything so why should I?" Do you have be part of the crowd that baddly? You don't even have to do anything big for crying out loud. Planet a tree, take the train or bus, buy a hybrid car, recycle, its not environmental science here. Every little bit helps. Get other people to do the same. Are you really willing to risk everything just because you were too lazy to change even slightly.

I'm not talking about joining Greenpeace and stopping the deforestation of the Amazon or you finding a way to stop Global Warming by yourself, just little things. You doing your little part, and if everyone does their part then we may stop something terrible from happening. But if you really want a wave coming in your front door or having to wear artic clothing to go for a walk to the local store then go ahead and be a lazy arse who does nothing because its slightly harder than what hes used to.[/b]

No, I'm not going to be a lamb, but nor am I going to waste my life fighting a battle our grandkids will fuck up anyway. No matter what I do, my fight is futile. I'd rather spend my short time living doing other things, things that actually matter to me. Just because I realize life is absurd and existance is meanlingless, doesn't mean I'm stupid, ignorant and lazy. It means I've come to a realization about life. It's my opinion, respect it please.

 

[Adamis]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(adroit @ Apr 15 2007, 03:00 PM) [snapback]159184[/snapback]</div>

No, I'm not going to be a lamb, but nor am I going to waste my life fighting a battle our grandkids will fuck up anyway. No matter what I do, my fight is futile. I'd rather spend my short time living doing other things, things that actually matter to me. Just because I realize life is absurd and existance is meanlingless, doesn't mean I'm stupid, ignorant and lazy. It means I've come to a realization about life. It's my opinion, respect it please.[/b]

For crying out loud I'm not saying fu<king change your entire life. I don't expect you fight this problem by yourself I'm asking you to maybe do one thing slightly different so as to lessen the damage you do to the Earth! Its not that fu<king hard. If everyone just did a few little things then there would be alot less damage done and the things I'm asking aren't going to change your life majorly. They will have little to no effect on your life, like a hybrid car. It still fu<king gets you from place to place and even if it can't go quiet as fast as another car you could have that point is moot since you shouldn't be going any faster than the spped limit anyway. Hell it will probably save you money on petrol as well.

Small things are all I'm asking you to try. And if you do these things NOW and everyone gets used to them then your Grandchildren will continue using them and probably even do other things as well because that is the way they were raised and therefore the way they think.

By thinking the way you are thinking, that we will die anyway is a self-fulfilling prophecy since you will do nothing about it and thereby make it come true solely because you predicted it and did nothing where it would not have happened before. If you think that way then why not just stand in the middle of the road when a truck is bearing down on you while you were crossing the road since you "will die one day anyway.".

 

[Cailst]

The same people who say that humans caused global warming also say that it is unstoppable even if we did everything we can to stop it. It would probably be better to simply prepare for it than try to stop it.

Besides, it has very little chance of wiping out humanity and especially life in general as it has been far warmer and far colder in the past.

There was a point where ice covered the entire world and life came out okay and in the time of the Dinosaurs, it was far warmer than here. Even in the Eocene, the north and south poles were at about the temperatures of Oregon.

 

[Kalin Morne]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Noncommunist @ Apr 15 2007, 03:19 PM) [snapback]159317[/snapback]</div>

The same people who say that humans caused global warming also say that it is unstoppable even if we did everything we can to stop it. It would probably be better to simply prepare for it than try to stop it.

Besides, it has very little chance of wiping out humanity and especially life in general as it has been far warmer and far colder in the past.

There was a point where ice covered the entire world and life came out okay and in the time of the Dinosaurs, it was far warmer than here. Even in the Eocene, the north and south poles were at about the temperatures of Oregon.[/b]

The point of talking about Global Warming isn't that all life on earth is going to die. It's that the world is going to drastically change and if we don't prepare for it we, as the human race are going to suffer massive die off.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mrun0riginal @ Apr 14 2007, 04:26 PM) [snapback]159111[/snapback]</div>

The reason science is seen as the new religion is because much of the Western World is Now Atheist/Agnostic, or not very orthodox. So, people turn to science to fill the void. And i hope global warming doesn't happen, because i hate it when it's hot. How can i snowboard then? how i ask you?!

But i'm not worried about global warming, as i feel it's due to the Solar cycles. CO2 plays a small part, but not much. So, it'll get cold again. hopefully.[/b]

The solar output has been the same for about six million years.

BAC: Posts merged.

 

[Sabre]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Tanas Aidlo @ Apr 15 2007, 02:54 AM) [snapback]159175[/snapback]</div>

You're ignorant of the problem, denying it, and even then, you say, well, if that doesn't fuck us over, something else will.

That's ignorance.[/b]

Pffft, ignorance feels a lot fucking better than worrying about shit you can't help.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

If you have nothing to add to a debate, do not post at all. This is your only warning.

 

[Adamis]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Big John @ Apr 17 2007, 09:40 AM) [snapback]159583[/snapback]</div>

Pffft, ignorance feels a lot fucking better than worrying about shit you can't help.[/b]

Have you read any of my posts? You can help! Just do small things like plant a tree or change to energy saving light bulbs. It may not be much but every little thing helps. Is that not clear enough to everyone here?