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If the Jedi history/archives didn't note a strong Jedi under a respective age I think we should follow a guideline as well.
i mean if that doesn't count, what does?
If the Jedi history/archives didn't note a strong Jedi under a respective age I think we should follow a guideline as well.
i mean if that doesn't count, what does?
EDIT: Funny thing is Ezra needed to utilize the darkside to control the Fyrnock..
I think the point was more about young people being Knights rather than using the Force. A 15 year old hasn't fully developed their frontal lobe yet, can still be psychologically impacted by traumatic events and is easily manipulated. That's backed up by neuroscience. I find it exceptionally difficult to believe that they'd be a Knight when I can't even get laser eye surgery until I'm at least 18 because my eyes are still developing. Now, add in the fact that most young Dark Jedi go murderous - unlike my eyeballs - and you can see why the Jedi might be hesitant to bestow too much expectation and responsibility (aka rank) on a young Jedi.@Rev: See, you're re-framing the argument now. When before you said there should be a requisite age for using the Force, now you're saying that only with proper guidance is a Force User going to be able to be able to resist the temptation of the Dark Side, which is a different kettle of fish entirely.
I said this in one of the previous threads, but I can't remember which, and I don't expect you to trawl through the boards looking for it, but the main thrust of the point I made was this: In the new canon, by all accounts, using the Force is actually relatively easy. Look at Ezra. Look at Ahsoka. Look at the Jedi younglings in TCW. Hell, look at Rey in TFA. Actually using the Force comes quite easily to these examples of young or inexperienced people. Even in Legends, the idea of the Force being difficult, requiring intense meditation for years before one could even harness telekinesis, was poorly backed up by actual, practical examples, and more often than not the idea was ignored altogether. The new canon really just takes what most writers have been doing anyway and makes it official.
But what you're right about, is that using the Force responsibly, or with any degree of skill, finesse, or in the case of the Jedi, restraint? That's the big deal in regards to training. That's where having a master really becomes important. But by the same token, that doesn't exclude especially young characters from using the Force either, which was your earlier point. To go to an even earlier point though (that regarding excessively young Jedi Knights/Sith Lords etc), I agree that there needs to be a controlling factor on that, because it skews plausibility of those roles that a 17 year old would be considered to have mastered the Force to the degree of knighthood/lordship etc.
But, as I said before, that's more something that respective FLs are in charge of, and so it's their responsibility to enforce something like that if they so desire.
I see it now. Battalions of Jedi child soldiers.
I don't have a 100% firm answer for that yet, but I think it will be twofold:
That being said, it's not as big of a deal as it used to be because of how we're really trying to separate rank and power levels, so hopefully that will translate through effectively to indie factions as well.
- By default, an indie character can also start off as Knight-equivalent. I don't think we'd treat indie characters any differently in that regard.
- Indie factions can set their own rules for whether they want to require training.
With that last part being said, just to clarify if i understood right. You are saying like a knoghts power level could be higher than lets say his masters? Even though the master is a rank higher than the knight?
Yeah, I LOVE the whole new direction this is all being taken. The site is taking a very exciting turn into a sort of essence of realism that doesn't play off of the video game mechanics that quite a few people misunderstand the RP to be. I think this will drive the juicier, creative, sides in us all to think more outside the box in developing Force powers from a scientific perspective and appropriately RPing a character that has a life and thoughts rather than a videogame character that is meant to "Level Up" as fast as possible, as Ranks are now essentially fruit fluff! And oh so delicious fruit fluff can be >:-)Ok. Just was wondering because compared to the earlier timeline where power was with rank if im not mistaken?