Expansionary Tactics and Discussion

[Zach]

I'd like to propose this thread as a general discussion of the war effort and territorial expansion. A link to the territories can be found here. Currently, the Chiss control the north-western corner of the map, with their immediate southern border nearly desolate. There are a few planets, but some are disallowed from this thread.

In this expanse, there is no designated territory, and as it is, the Chiss are technically neutral. Our expansion may be heeded with caution and unrest, but it's a valid maneuver that in no way instigates war. With an IC preparation of a base and resources, it could be easily passed off. OOCly, of course not, but the factions have to do something progressive.


Rakata Prime is one of the planets allowed, and I think it would be an excellent target to start expansion in the southern regions. With the proper RP threads of expeditions and exploration ships, we would be able to connect a hyperspace route to Lwhekk, a planet much further south, flanking the western edge of Alliance space. I think a prime first target once open war is declared would be Bakura, a planet on the very edge of Alliance space bordering Wild Space. From there, a vertical line of conquered territories would provide the Sith and CA alliance with flanking fronts, coming at the GA from both side. It's been proposed that the Sith begin to take territory near and around Hutt Space, but this has yet to be decided upon.

 

[Dread]

The Chiss really have a prime spot in space already. With the redoubt beside us, we can basically never be wiped out. If you don't know about it, you should take a look at it. Of course, prime location or not, expanding is always a good idea to keep the faction progressing. You have valid points about going for Rakata Prime, so I support the idea.

 

[Dmitri]

The Kushari lay in that territory somewhere, along with the Mando's new base. We don't want to allow the enemy to be placed in the heart of our territory.

 

[Zach]

Kushari space is located near that area, per the thread between Bac and Jiang with a picture of an outlined section of the territories map. It's on the very western border of GA space, so is somewhere directly south of the Chiss.

Aside from the opportunity to have access to Mando space, the flanking position is a more important priority of mine. The way it is now, the Sith will soon locate their area anyways, and there's already a public dispute between them. There's no need to involve the Chiss* with the Mando's until their neutral position no longer serves as an asset.

EDIT: Typo correction, Sith to Chiss*

 

[Dmitri]

How about we con the GA into allowing us the space? Basically, we claim that if they give us that space, we won't attack them (with the special clause being unless we attack them first, as I believe Radz already stated he doesn't plan to war with the GA). In case we do decide to war with the GA, we can alway fake an attack against us and 'retaliate.'

 

[Zach]

How about we con the GA into allowing us the space? Basically, we claim that if they give us that space, we won't attack them (with the special clause being unless we attack them first, as I believe Radz already stated he doesn't plan to war with the GA). In case we do decide to war with the GA, we can alway fake an attack against us and 'retaliate.'

ICly, it'd be an ultimatum of "Give us this territory, or we take it." It's essentially the exact same thing the Sith did with the Mandos. Ultimatums generally aren't 'cons.'

OOCly, those that know where Kushari space is (and others, who know it's general location in that approximate area) will only see that kind of play as "We just kicked the Mando's out of Where the Sith are expanding, now we're going to kick the Mandos out of where the CA are expanding. Now all your base are belong to us." Basically, as tactical and negotiable as it might be ICly, that strategy won't make a lick of difference in the OOC. There's no way they'd accept it and would only cause them to either reinforce the area, or attack first.


That actually gives me an idea though. IF that's their predicted response, there might be a way we can manipulate them dividing their resources and attention to our advantage.

Once expanding to Rakata Prime and possibly Lwhekk, we could propose to set up a location for neutral purposes with emissaries for negotiations and possible treaties at Rattatak (on the western border of GA space, nearest the potential expansion planets). With this setup, if the GA accept, we'd be under heavily surveillance while they monitor the outpost, but we'd still be established in that area of space. That alone would provide a hyperspace route through the expanded territory into their south-western border. While this wouldn't have be acted upon immediately, it would serve as a viable option for later use, while the Chiss remain technically neutral.

Others locations to consider would be Phu, Kitel Phard, or N'Zoth, all planets on the western border of the Deep Core. Diplomatic approaches are usually met with diplomatic measures, so we'll probably be able to do that much. Of course they'll be suspicious, but keeping these lines open leads to a lot of possibilities.

 

[Dread]

I've been asked to leave the Hutts alone. So for now they will remain neutral space.

From another thread. I just wanted to make sure everyone who posts here knows that.

BTW, try not to focus on the GA too much. We can use our neutral stance against them, and build up for a possible war with them, but let's make that our second priority. Our first priority is taking down the Mando's.

 

[Zach]

Effectively, it would be a front to focus on the GA. Technically, this is to position ourselves closer to the presumable Mando territory that they moved to. The guise of the diplomatic thing I just suggested works as an advance in GA territory, but also surrounds the blank area in Wild Space that's supposed to be Kushari space.

 

[Dmitri]

Effectively, it would be a front to focus on the GA. Technically, this is to position ourselves closer to the presumable Mando territory that they moved to. The guise of the diplomatic thing I just suggested works as an advance in GA territory, but also surrounds the blank area in Wild Space that's supposed to be Kushari space.

Which ICly, we don't know about.

 

[Sreeya]

Let's not post uber secret plans here. Just general stuff.

 

[Dmitri]

Let's not post uber secret plans here. Just general stuff.

Because enemy admins visit, like like a certain "Head Bitch in Charge" reading the IK's private board? :CFuu

Just kidding. Still, it probably would be a good idea not to post any uber secret plans here, though not too many, I think, have been posted here.