End of the World?

Brandon Rhea

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There are a few of things in the bible that are supposed to happen that haven't happened yet, so in my opinion, were safe for now.

Edit: Plus, **** that guy, i was born after 88.

Christ told the apostles that Judgment Day would happen in their lifetimes. That's one of the reason why there was no organized church or orthodox holy book for the first two centuries or so of Christianity, because people were expecting the end to happen at any time.
 

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Christ told the apostles that Judgment Day would happen in their lifetimes. That's one of the reason why there was no organized church or orthodox holy book for the first two centuries or so of Christianity, because people were expecting the end to happen at any time.

Wait a minute. He really said that?
 

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Didn't in the gospel of Luke ( I think) Jesus said "...that the world would end like a thief in the night? No one can foresee it.":CIsee
 

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I don't remember the quote, but Christ basically did say that, yes. Historically speaking, he's considered an apocalyptic prophet.
 

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I went to church today with my parents for Mothers Day and the sermon was on the end times and how no one can predict and all we can do is be ready for it, but not stop our lives waiting for it. It was kinda creepy cause it had been a topic of conversation yesterday in my family and on here. He said that there will always be crazies and once one date comes and goes another will pop up, but no one knows. I liked it...when I was awake enough to listen.
 

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Christ told the apostles that Judgment Day would happen in their lifetimes. That's one of the reason why there was no organized church or orthodox holy book for the first two centuries or so of Christianity, because people were expecting the end to happen at any time.

:CDumb Huh? I don't remember that, and I could have sworn that Christianity was organized during the first two centuries.
 

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:CDumb Huh? I don't remember that, and I could have sworn that Christianity was organized during the first two centuries.

It's in there. I've studied this.

And no, there was no organized Christianity under any sort of banner or even a name during the early times of the Common Era. It's basically just referred to as the early Jesus movement.

There were various different movements such as Marcionites, Gnostics, so-called Jewish Christians (Jews for Jesus, basically), and what we call proto-orthodox Christianity. The most accessible of the bunch, meaning anyone including the gentiles could be part of it, was proto-orthodox, so they were the ones that eventually dominated and became the Catholic Church.
 

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:CDumb Huh? I don't remember that, and I could have sworn that Christianity was organized during the first two centuries.

Up until 300 CE Christians were essentially slaves who met in catacombs for mass. Anybody caught practising the religion was pretty much condemned to death, mainly because of the Jews they had encountered.

The Romans, when they conquered a people, offered them 'religious amnesty' - they would let them believe in their God/gods and would accept them into the empire's (or Republic's) pantheon, as long as they acknowledged the other gods within the pantheon that were recognised across the empire (of course there was no impetus to support or worship the gods that were not theirs). The Jews, as one of the fundamental aspects of the Judeo-Christian religions is the existence of only one God, refused. Essentially, as far as religion was concerned (and a lot of other things for that matter) the Romans were tolerant of the tolerant and intolerant of the intolerant.
 

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Up until 300 CE Christians were essentially slaves who met in catacombs for mass. Anybody caught practising the religion was pretty much condemned to death, mainly because of the Jews they had encountered.

The Romans, when they conquered a people, offered them 'religious amnesty' - they would let them believe in their God/gods and would accept them into the empire's (or Republic's) pantheon, as long as they acknowledged the other gods within the pantheon that were recognised across the empire (of course there was no impetus to support or worship the gods that were not theirs). The Jews, as one of the fundamental aspects of the Judeo-Christian religions is the existence of only one God, refused. Essentially, as far as religion was concerned (and a lot of other things for that matter) the Romans were tolerant of the tolerant and intolerant of the intolerant.

That was only after the sacking of the temple, I think. For most of Roman history, the Jews were highly respected by both the Republic and the early Empire. Romans appreciated antiquity, and while they didn't believe what the Jews believed they respected their beliefs nonetheless without really forcing them to do anything.

Christians, on the other hand, were brand new and, regardless of the fact that Judaism played an integral role in the Jesus movement, the Romans wanted nothing to do with them -- because they were new, not old.

That's one of the big reasons that the Gospel of Matthew is referred to as the most Jewish of the gospels, because one of its assumed goals was to ensure a prominent emphasis on the fact that Christianity is a continuation of the Jewish religion, not necessarily a new religion (that's not how we think of it now, of course).

Then there was a small matter of a Jewish rebellion and the Romans had a change of heart about about the Jews. Then once Constantine had his change of heart about the Christians, the Christians weren't really persecuted anymore.
 

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Anyone looking forward to tomorow?
 

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Anyone looking forward to tomorow?

Does it mean I get two extra hours for being so far down in the south?

Edit: Also I will be very pissed off if I never get to play Skyrim..
 
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W00T! 10 minutes till the end of the world!!!!
 

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Up here in Michigan it's been raining non stop, I swear I'm going to drown tomorrow :)
 

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The Rapture isn't the end of the world, it's when all the stuffy Christians disappear. Basically, the way I see it, a Golden Age is coming.
 

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Saturday 21 may, 4.12pm

All is well :D

Don't you find it funny that when they make these sorts of ridiculous claims, the fact that there are different time zones escapes their mind completely?
 

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No no no

The "rapture" will start on may 21st, 6PM on the west coast US when an earthquake will appear and suck up all those who believe in Jesus Christ.
 

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No no no

The "rapture" will start on may 21st, 6PM on the west coast US when an earthquake will appear and suck up all those who believe in Jesus Christ.

Knew it was too good to be true :CCry1
 

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The Rapture isn't the end of the world, it's when all the stuffy Christians disappear. Basically, the way I see it, a Golden Age is coming.

It so would be! Bring on the rapture!
 
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