Dawn of the Republic - Sacred Band of Ziost

[Spud]

None of us are force sensitive, that's a main aspect of SBZ. We're the elite of the elite non-sensitives that have passed the hardest trials the Sith and older SBZ have thrown at us and survived, trials that I'd imagine some Sith themselves had perished in.

 

[Gamov]

@Tsunami

The SBZ aren't structured like your typical rank and file military. I think it was @Saul who made the comparison that they are akin to Mandalorians, just under a different name. They're the shock troops, specialists, commandos (insert badass term here) that work with the Sith rather than for them. The SBZ has every right to demand respect from them, forcefully if need be. They aren't a legion of disposable grunts and I foresee them developing a great deal of autonomy from the Sith if things are played right.

 

[Tsunami]

@Spud @Gamov

What you say is totally true but personally I would still see you guys as inferior to Jedi. Looking at the discussion that happened in the announcements thread talking about how powerful the force was in PvP, those who don't have it are defo at a distinct disadvantage.

I don't think a lot of the Sith characters ICly would see you guys as equals. I feel like the SBZ was almost created to be the clone troopers of the Sith Army, these well trained guys who do the job well, but ultimately replacable. Again that's ICly.

I would much rather have some of you guys working with the Sith in sort of set teams. I haven't seen everyones profile in the SBZ however I am assuming that you guys have a range of skills, from the tech savvy to the manic warrior types. My character is very much an Assassin, but I also want to kind of do some recon in the core world, having a tech savvy SBZ member would be perfect, help me to get around places etc.

 

[Spud]

True, many of the Sith probably won't see us as equals, which will be compounded by our members that worship the Sith to varying degrees. I expect only the wiser Sith or the more practical Sith to see the true value of the SBZ at first. On another note our chars would likely work together then as I'm making a tech savvy spy/assassin.

 

[Tsoibe]

I personally view most of the more warrior-type members of the SBZ fighting on even terms with a Jedi Knight or the Sith equivalent (especially since the admins seem want everyone to start at a similar level). True, the advantage of the force on the side of the other combatant gives them many additional options, though that means you just have to be a bit more inventive with the things you can do without it. Basically, it should still boil down to the writing skills and creativity of both participants in the duel, with the Force user having an easier time with something like the Force on his hands.

ICly, Dalrel views himself as on equal footing with the Sith, not that he would let everyone of them know. He will play to their arrrogance, if need be, but is more than glad to talk them down, once they slip. Of course, he is no longer the fighter he would like to be, so I would not see him win in an open fight with a Jedi, Sith or any elite warrior (which includes most PCs, I assume).

Also, I found a statement from Green Ranger a few pages back, regarding how he possibly envisions the SBZ, which I would like to share, as it fits my general view of the SBZ.

Pretty much. I sort of envision the Sith philosophy of the strength of self being part of the Sacred Band's internal culture, while also not being necessarily beholden to the more religious aspects of the Sith, including the philosophies of the Force and reverence of the dead. So the Sacred Band still follow Sith idealogies to a certain extent, but they're much more pragmatic about it as well, which in turn is a source for conflict between them and the more mystical Sith Order, who they're more or less on equal footing with in terms of hierarchy within the larger Sith kingdom. I think that last point is important to note, as well - I don't want people thinking that membership in the Sacred Band is confining yourself to be an underling. You can backchat your peers in the Sith all you like tbh - after all, the old Sith Empire was ruled by the Sith Order, and look how that turned out. You've kind of got justification for looking down your nose at the Sith Order, if you choose to.
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[Spud]

Finally posted in the pre-dotr thread, hope it works.

 

[Pilgrim]

Looks good Spud. So far you're the only one to post from a sub account. Being new though, I still haven't figured those things out yet...

 

[Spud]

If you'd like some help with figuring it out let me know, it's not too complicated once you get the hang of it.

 

[Pilgrim]

Do we know our rank structure yet? I know there are only 3 levels, but what about names for them?

 

[Spud]

I don't think so, so far I think the Jedi ranks are the only ones that have been hinted towards for comparison purposes. I assume the think tank is still debating over what the names will be and what they mean for the members of the other factions.

 

[Eccles]

So which one of you SBZ'ers are former criminals of repute? I'd be interested to establish some sort of association with them for my own (exiled) crime lord. Perhaps a Pre-DotR thread in Diverse Roleplay?

I'm itching to write o.o

 

[Spud]

Hmm, I could definitely use some underworld contacts. A lot of my character's past is still up for debate but as of right now I'm planning on a spy-ssassin that worked directly under the CEO of a moderately sized private military company, who had some rather expensive tastes and shady business practices. Definitely the type to hire off to criminal elements and use my character to assure business went smoothly without directly incriminating himself, which my character would have no issue with and would certainly try to make his own contacts for future benefit.

 

[Pilgrim]

I'd like to see a few more SBZ characters in the roster. We've got such a small band that, as a shadow of the former self, the SBZ must have been small indeed! We're at 8 so far (according to the OP). What might a comfortable number be? 12? 20? I've only got one character so far since I'm new, so all my energy is focused on the SBZ right now...

 

[Eccles]

I posted an interest check for those people that want to get an early feel for their BA and SBZ characters in combat

 

[Saul]

I'd like to see a few more SBZ characters in the roster. We've got such a small band that, as a shadow of the former self, the SBZ must have been small indeed! We're at 8 so far (according to the OP). What might a comfortable number be? 12? 20? I've only got one character so far since I'm new, so all my energy is focused on the SBZ right now...

You can only have 2 characters in a main faction, and your third character must be an Indie character. For example - 1 Sith+1 SBZ / 2 SBZ / 2 Sith. Those are the only alternatives. So if you want 2 SBZ, by all means, but be aware you cannot do 2 SBZ+1 Sith.

 

[Sapphire Storm]

So which one of you SBZ'ers are former criminals of repute? I'd be interested to establish some sort of association with them for my own (exiled) crime lord. Perhaps a Pre-DotR thread in Diverse Roleplay?

I'm itching to write o.o

Kira Tanata is a former mercenary, pirate, assassin and just about any other title you can think of that involved illegal things and credits. If she interests you I'd be more than happy to throw some ideas back and forth.

 

[Dmitri]

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/index.php?threads/who-is-in-which-main-faction.63970/

 

[RedneckLoves]

Looking to make an SBZ character, but I need someone to fill a vital role for her. Anyone interested?

http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/...ack-dog-looking-for-dominant-companion.63976/

 

[argutator]

this is REALLY cool and although im currently "character full" I might make some pc for this in the future(dont count me yet just stating my thoughts)

 

[Eccles]

The SBZ aren't structured like your typical rank and file military. They're the shock troops, specialists, commandos (insert badass term here) that work with the Sith rather than for them.

Don't forget slavers, emotionally scarred smugglers and Sith-groupies. All I see here are assassins with enhanced spinal cords and limbs and not the actual scum of the Galaxy. Where's the pirate whose fleet was destroyed and hoped to form a new fleet from the hardened grunts on Ziost? (Imagine Charles Vane from the Black Sails series losing his crew and forming a new one out of especially brawny slaves).

The SBZ to me don't look like Mandalorians at all. They're privateers and pirates with Ziost as their Nassau who fight the Republic Military for personal profit (whether power, credits or infamy).

The announcement also says "enthralled to the will of the Sith Lords" , which to me at least sounds like there's a distinct hierarchy. They're not a legion not anymore, but still no equals to the Force Users of Korriban/Morraband.

EDIT: It also seems clear to me that in the announcement there's first a description of what the SBZ once was, namely the absolute elite under Sith Rule, and then it states that now it's a shell of its former self and consists of primarily misfits. That it ends with "not less dangerous in a fight" seems added to balance it out. Coming back to the Nassau comparison: Nassau had many pirates who were useless and forgotten in their own time, but it also had Blackbeard, Hornigold, Vane, Rackham etcetera. The SBZ can and will also have such characters, namely the Player Characters (participating in PvP). That doesn't mean the entire sub-faction is elite.