Dawn of The Republic: Lords of the Sith.

[Sapphire Storm]

@K-97 I like where you seem to be going with him so far. It's an interesting approach and makes me intrigued to see where he ends up. I don't really have any critiques to give so far.

 

[Soverin]

I have not seen a consolidated entry on the new doctrine, creed, w/e of the "Sith religion"

Can we collectively work to flesh this system out? It is integral to the majority of the SBZ characters so far and should no doubt play a major role in several, if not all, of the Sith characters in one way or another. Given the fragmented nature of the Sith after the war prior to the NTL, religion may be the one thing keeping them together. To be a major religion, this religion generally needs a doctrine, text, holy figure(s), some metaphysical explanation for the order of things, and should also elaborate on holy sites, how to worship, any practices to avoid. Adherents to the faith need not be doctrinally pure; this is more of a cult than a Church, but it gives people guidelines to follow.

I agree with this entirely. If the Sith in the next timeline are going to be on par with the jedi, they're going to need to be more than a broken organization chilling at home. If we can unify them with like a really really intense religious backbone the idea of the jedi and sith being at war will seem a bit more solid. (my opinion.)

Given that we're on Moraband / Korriban I could see some really interesting worship practices happening around the valley of the dark lords and what not (fights to the death to appease the ancestral lords, sacrifices, generally going and isolating yourself to bask in those raw bad sithy emotions.) I kinda' figure the sith in general are pretty self-serving, and their code is all about empowering oneself and liberating oneself from any sort of tethers, which could make a unified religion difficult, but if we place the sith "religion" in a renaissance of sorts where everyone is trying to dictate what it is to be sith and what that "religion" entails I think it could work very well. Then we open up doors for infighting and smaller faction splintering, which any good Sithies need to do. Just my two cents, but I entirely support the idea of a culty religious sith vibe.

 

[Sapphire Storm]

The basis will probably be what it always is: the Code of the Sith. How that is interpreted by different people and how religious different characters are is another matter entirely. A more structured system to play off would be very interesting and fun, though. I don't know about the Sith as a whole, but I know my SBZ character, who fancies herself as a "Priestess of the Sith," will probably perform rituals involving blood sacrifice and other offerings, hold sermons and all that wonderful stuff. All of that would be made easier if there was a recognised religion to work with, but it's not necessary. I can very easily make stuff up using my knowledge of the Sith and my own creativity.

As to the more intricate details of such a religion, I imagine it would be some small sect, at least to begin with. There's no way in hell every Sith is adhering to this one idea of what it means to be Sith. They all have their own, very ingrained ideas of what being a Sith personally means to them. Hell, said religion might even be better discussed in the SBZ thread, since I feel like members of the SBZ are more likely to be religious than the Sith are.

As for an actual doctrine? Take the Sith Code and expand upon it. I don't know if it's actually canon anymore, but that doesn't mean we can't steal it and adapt it toward our own ends. There's so much stuff you can take and turn into religious material. The freedom and breaking of chains; the quest for power; the embracing of all your emotions, instead of the "unnatural rejection" shown by the Jedi, etc.

I'd be more than happy to work on a religious doctrine, rites, rituals and everything with people that are interested. I'd be less willing to try and apply it to everyone, though. Since I'm not a member of the TT or anything, I'm wary of trying to apply something to an entire faction. I would love to get something nailed down for personal use, though.

 

[Saul]

@Sapphire Storm I meant to say there should be an orthodox doctrine most people follow, then there'd be heterodoxies that other people follow loosely based on it. The orthodoxy would be conservative (by Sith standards) while heterodoxies would more liberally apply violent rituals leadership might oppose (sacrifices might be among these). Either way, the orthodoxy provides some sort of unifying vision about what it means to be Sith so soon after the Sith were soundly defeated only 4-5 generations ago. Orthodoxy would be basic, exalting the Sith credo, calling for certain rituals before combat, certain rituals for lightsaber construction, whatever. Because, the Sith witness that Sith do not truly die if they are glorious; power lives on beyond death, which has always been the fundamental argument against the Sith "Why gain power if you're just going to die and lose it one day?" The answer now lies on Moraband "Because my power will live on after my death, and I will be able to guide and shape the Galaxy in ways others couldn't possibly imagine."

Then becoming a powerful Sith being is like ascending to Godhood, and non-FS can simply be in awe at this undeniable power, dream that they, too, could one day gain this power, and fight to make the people they feel are strongest thus able to achieve such status, because through their master's ascendancy their deeds will live on eternally as well. Maybe the SBZ might believe there is some Sith holy land of the strong, where if they prove their worth they will walk among the dark master's, serving as their guards as well as being idolized by future warriors of the Sith. Fame and glory, these were often the driving motivators behind mythologized warriors of the Chinese/Japanese respective Warring States Periods (whether actual motivations or not matters not).

 

[Sapphire Storm]

@Saul The question of "why gain power if you're just going to die and lose it one day?" can be answered in many different ways, but that's beside the point. I agree that an organised doctrine would be fun and add an interesting aspect to the culture of the faction, but I can't help but feel like that kind of cult/church would be a thing more likely to crop up amongst the non-FS SBZ members that worship the Sith and desire their power. Of course that wouldn't be all the members of the SBZ, but it looks like there are a few going in that direction.

Then again, I could also just be talking about something that should be its own thing completely separate from whatever the Sith believe in, which would make a lot of sense. The cult-like portion of the SBZ tends to view the Sith as gods, or the next best thing, and then the Sith themselves have their own belief structure. What is that belief structure? Probably something derived from the Sith Code. I already begin to see two very distinct differences between what I was talking about and a belief system for the Sith. I don't know how much discussion truly needs to go into it, though, since the conclusion we'd likely come to is that taking the ideas from the Sith Code and expanding upon them is the best course of action. What you're talking about, this orthodox doctrine, might even be something handled by the Think Tank, the Faction Leader and any Assistant Faction Leaders, whereas the interpretation of it and how individuals and groups handle it might be where regular faction members and their ideas come in. I dunno.

 

[Dmitri]

If people have ideas for doctrines, feel free to PM me them (and other ideas) and I can share them with the think tank.

 

[Crosis]

SO I too will obviously be creating a Sith. I already have a species picked out too. He will focus on Lightsaber combat cause we need to kill those Jedi who are obviously swelling in numbers. Nasty peskie creatures. I think I am going to be one of few races. My number one choice is Draethos, but also maybe a Codru-Ji. Or maybe a Kushiban. ^_^ Ha ha. That would be a sight.

 

[Vepos Surge]

So I think I'll be backing out of my idea as a dathomirian zabrak. Instead I'll be choosing a much less common race, a gamorrean. Or as a lot of you probably think of them, pig men. He'll be a crusader (or whatever the equivalent is in this timeline) and will be extremely intelligent for his race (or about an average human). Though due to his species inability to speak any language but their own properly he will be wearing a mask that can translate his speech into galactic common.

The reason I'm doing this is simple, I've never seen a Sith gamorrean before and I feel like it could be a unique character. His name will be Gork and you better prepare the slop, because he's hungry.

 

[Saul]

SO I too will obviously be creating a Sith. I already have a species picked out too. He will focus on Lightsaber combat cause we need to kill those Jedi who are obviously swelling in numbers. Nasty peskie creatures. I think I am going to be one of few races. My number one choice is Draethos, but also maybe a Codru-Ji. Or maybe a Kushiban. ^_^ Ha ha. That would be a sight.

Go with Draethos. Codru-Ji are gimmicky because of multiple arms and push the limits of what's reasonable in a lightsaber duel (and also what you can reasonably and competently describe in RP) and this risks making them shallow characters outside of combat. Kushiban are, I feel, likewise a gimmick that you might get bored of fast. Draethos are both very cool looking and also unique, while not being physically superior to anything except for lifespan, giving you more room to focus on RP. Just significantly de-emphasize the telepathy; it seems like a way to sideskirt tech restrictions and changes to the way the Force is used. That said, if telepathy becomes a part of the meta among force users next timeline, then go ahead and use it, your character has more cause to than others.

 

[Crosis]

Besides their impressive lifespans, I believe that Draethos also have a more robust constitution than other races to the warrior like society. But I have a really cool idea in mind for a Draethos Sith I just have no idea whatsoever if it will be approved, but it will be less warrior, still capable warrior, but less. More along the lines of maybe Darth Andeddu. I don't know, well I mean I do but I can't go into detail in fear that my ideas and concept could be stolen from me.

 

[Elijah Brockway]

Believe it or not, the extremely vast majority of people you run into on here aren't going to do that. They'd sooner ask to use your idea than just take it.

And the few that would just take it would be noticed quickly and rightfully called out. Idea-theft doesn't happen much here.

 

[Noctyr]

Gahh so excited! Made a new sig, anticipating the new timeline~

 

[Marf]

Ok.

Right.

Is there possibly anyone planning a Sith character who is not interested in RPing out combat, strategy, manipulating pawns, taking over the galaxy or anything else that I hate?

I want to RP my Sith just as normal kids growing up in an outright extreme world. Going on silly adventures, getting into trouble, having romantic experiences, dealing with the cruelty of the horrendous society in which they are trapped, etc etc. I have loads of little stories in mind that I'd love to play out with other people's characters. Anyone else playing a slightly younger Sith, perhaps in their early 20s?

Believe it or not, but I actually don't like to plan out my RPs alot, I prefer to just set a beautiful, picturesque, simple scene and let things roll from there.

I wasted alot of my time and enjoyment doing missions and training this timeline and I would really like to play more to my skills in the next. I want to write emotionally intense, intricate stories that don't revolve around stinking fights or stupid battles.

Do let me know if t any of this interests you.

 

[Noctyr]

Ok.

Right.

Is there possibly anyone planning a Sith character who is not interested in RPing out combat, strategy, manipulating pawns, taking over the galaxy or anything else that I hate?

I want to RP my Sith just as normal kids growing up in an outright extreme world. Going on silly adventures, getting into trouble, having romantic experiences, dealing with the cruelty of the horrendous society in which they are trapped, etc etc. I have loads of little stories in mind that I'd love to play out with other people's characters. Anyone else playing a slightly younger Sith, perhaps in their early 20s?

Believe it or not, but I actually don't like to plan out my RPs alot, I prefer to just set a beautiful, picturesque, simple scene and let things roll from there.

I wasted alot of my time and enjoyment doing missions and training this timeline and I would really like to play more to my skills in the next. I want to write emotionally intense, intricate stories that don't revolve around stinking fights or stupid battles.

Do let me know if t any of this interests you.

Well, I do intend to RP out combat since I like action scenes, but the strategy, manipulation, taking over the galaxy, etc, is probably going to be kept to a minimum for my character. I'm trying to really go for emotion as the focal point for my character when I roleplay, so maybe you might be interested? I already have a relatively rough background written out, but it's pretty easily modified if you're interested in having your character be a part of it. Feel free to check out the background in my workshop. (Link is the image in my sig)

 

[Sapphire Storm]

Ok.

Right.

Is there possibly anyone planning a Sith character who is not interested in RPing out combat, strategy, manipulating pawns, taking over the galaxy or anything else that I hate?

I want to RP my Sith just as normal kids growing up in an outright extreme world. Going on silly adventures, getting into trouble, having romantic experiences, dealing with the cruelty of the horrendous society in which they are trapped, etc etc. I have loads of little stories in mind that I'd love to play out with other people's characters. Anyone else playing a slightly younger Sith, perhaps in their early 20s?

Believe it or not, but I actually don't like to plan out my RPs alot, I prefer to just set a beautiful, picturesque, simple scene and let things roll from there.

I wasted alot of my time and enjoyment doing missions and training this timeline and I would really like to play more to my skills in the next. I want to write emotionally intense, intricate stories that don't revolve around stinking fights or stupid battles.

Do let me know if t any of this interests you.

That's like 50% of the fun of RP for me (with most of the rest being the character creation process.) Exploring characters, who they are and how the deal with things and everything like that. If past experiences are any indication, I'll likely participate in very little combat, but I absolutely love setting a scene, throwing a few characters at it with no guide and just seeing where they take us. I'm one of those people that likes to believe that if I make a robust enough character and I pay enough attention then I won't have to plan what they do. They'll tell me in the moment as I'm writing.

I'd love to do this kind of thing with you, especially if we're going with the idea of Andro taking Kytana under her wing or being her master or whatever.

 

[Saul]

@Marf

Intrigue, violence, combat, bloodletting, murder, terrorism, crime, these will all be a part of my character. I do intend to explore her personal relationships, even open to a romantic one (or two!) but that won't stop her from plunging headlong into life or death scenario's that keep those people that know her on the edge of their seats.

 

[Elijah Brockway]

If there are people that want to make friends with somebody they're supposed to be enemies with then I'm always willing to have that sort of thing happen with my Jedi.

Just because he pretty much likes everybody and would rather get along with everybody rather than be stuck fighting them.

 

[Eagei]

I plan on being an assassin style, think as stereotypical ninja with a saber (or two ;P)

 

[Sapphire Storm]

Sneaky, assassin-style characters have always interested me. I'm super wary whenever I hear someone's making one, though, because usually they're done really badly and they play up the fact that they're supposed to be some super badass assassin, which always leads to the intent of the character becoming extremely obvious in character, which ruins the entire idea behind the sneaky, badass assassin. If you can pull it off and do it in a good way, though, it'll be a really fun and interesting character to watch.

 

[Kibagami]

I plan on being an assassin style, think as stereotypical ninja with a saber (or two ;P)

Did you mean Lightsaber or Sabre? Either one isn't really a good fit for stealthy ninja assassins.