Convening the Galactic Senate [ATTN Senators!]

[Malon]

I VMed him, so he should start soon. If not, I will start the meeting for him with my character so that this thread doesn't die.

 

[Dmitri]

Here are the three Ando Prime threads. Sorry it took me a while to get around to searching for them.

Orbit: http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27474&highlight=Prime

Temple: http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27424

Mythological Base: http://www.thestarwarsrp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27301

 

[Brandon Rhea]

"I would like to request that the former supreme Chancellor is to be placed under surveillance

Aside from the fact that such a request is completely inane, there's also that niggling little bit about how Mohatu is currently in a coma. ;)

 

[Cailst]

Aside from the fact that such a request is completely inane, there's also that niggling little bit about how Mohatu is currently in a coma. ;)

Unless the so called "coma" is but a cunning ruse...

:CIsee

 

[Count Sam]

Aside from the fact that such a request is completely inane, there's also that niggling little bit about how Mohatu is currently in a coma. ;)

I clearly know that, he would technically be placed under surveillance(in the hospital of course) till he completely recovers, and then he would have to answer a couple of questions. That is of course if he ever recovers :bitchez

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I clearly know that, he would technically be placed under surveillance(in the hospital of course) till he completely recovers, and then he would have to answer a couple of questions. That is of course if he ever recovers :bitchez

He'll recover, unless you're saying that you're planning to try to kill him. ;)

That said, your reasoning for surveillance makes no sense. You put someone under surveillance when you want to either a) protect them or b) watch them. He's already surrounded by an army of guards, so that leads me to think you want to watch him -- yet all you'll be watching is him sleeping in a coma.

If you want to put him under surveillance, you do it AFTER he wakes up.

 

[Tsar Fire]

He'll recover, unless you're saying that you're planning to try to kill him. ;)

That said, your reasoning for surveillance makes no sense. You put someone under surveillance when you want to either a) protect them or b) watch them. He's already surrounded by an army of guards, so that leads me to think you want to watch him -- yet all you'll be watching is him sleeping in a coma.

If you want to put him under surveillance, you do it AFTER he wakes up.

He must watch the furry while he sleeps. It is a deeply seated emotional need for him.

 

[Count Sam]

Those guards are obviously loyal to him... also placing him under surveillance would make sure that no one of his men would smuggle him outside of Republic space before he is brought to justice, and is questioned for his failures.

All I am saying is that the Republic can not keep its eyes away from the Chancellor just encase any unexpected thing happened.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Those guards are obviously loyal to him... also placing him under surveillance would make sure that no one of his men would smuggle him outside of Republic space before he is brought to justice, and is questioned for his failures.

All I am saying is that the Republic can not keep its eyes away from the Chancellor just encase any unexpected thing happened.

Except there's no reason for him to be smuggled outside of Republic space because he didn't commit any crimes. Even if his actions were signs of incompetence, that's not enough to prosecute someone.

Also keep in mind that the guards who are guarding him are Republic guards, so it's not like the Republic isn't already monitoring him.

There's a political price for politicians who make such rash demands like this.

 

[Empress]

Mohatu has more than just your average " republic" paying attention anyway He's a former Chancellor. He has good agents watching him and will for the rest of his life.

Who's to say the person in that hospital is even the real mohatu ^_~ he knows things and may not be in the best of mental states is and when he recovers.


just something to consider.

 

[Count Sam]

Except there's no reason for him to be smuggled outside of Republic space because he didn't commit any crimes. Even if his actions were signs of incompetence, that's not enough to prosecute someone.

Also keep in mind that the guards who are guarding him are Republic guards, so it's not like the Republic isn't already monitoring him.

There's a political price for politicians who make such rash demands like this.

Well, his actions resulted in the death of a lot of people so personally I think he should be court Martialed as the ex the Commander in chief of the Republic armed forces just like Adara.

 

[Empress]

" mohatu may have signed off on some things that were failures...but that was his commanders and advisers who assured him they were sound things....and he trusted them because it was " their jobs" after all, so many of those came from those he's suppose to get this sort of information from.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Well, his actions resulted in the death of a lot of people so personally I think he should be court Martialed as the ex the Commander in chief of the Republic armed forces just like Adara.

Commander in Chief =/= member of the military. The Commander in Chief is a civilian, which makes him a civilian commander of the military -- which is how democratic and republican governments are set up. Therefore, the Commander in Chief can't be court marshaled, as that's for service members only.

Additionally, he didn't commit any civilian crimes, so while you can call him a failure in public you can't actually prosecute him for any crimes.

 

[Malon]

I clearly missed a lot while I was at work today >_< Gonna have to try and catch up. What's this insanity about wanting to court martial the former Chancellor?

 

[Count Sam]

Well, I thought in some circumstances the commander and chief in the Republic would get court martialed

However I never said he would be placed under arrest right of the bait...what I said was the he would have to answer a few questions and some investigations would take place as well to make sure that Mohatu had no under table deals with the Hutt Empire. Technically, he would be placed under surveillance just like any suspect but he would not be arrested unless it is proved that most of the military disastrous decisions were directly made by him.

However this does not matter anymore since Mohatu is already under the watch of Republic troops.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Well, I thought in some circumstances the commander and chief in the Republic would get court martialed

However I never said he would be placed under arrest right of the bait...what I said was the he would have to answer a few questions and some investigations would take place as well to make sure that Mohatu had no under table deals with the Hutt Empire. Technically, he would be placed under surveillance just like any suspect but he would not be arrested unless it is proved that most of the military disastrous decisions were directly made by him.

However this does not matter anymore since Mohatu is already under the watch of Republic troops.

I don't think you quite understand how all of this works.

For starters, to put any suspect under surveillance, you need a court order. The legislature can't just decide that someone can be watched like that, that's a complete overreach of power and it simply would not happen or else everyone the Senate didn't like would be watched.

Secondly, and once again, you cannot arrest a head of state for disastrous military decisions. Incompetence is not a crime. Sucking at your job doesn't violate the Constitution. If you prove that the disastrous decisions were made by him, all you've accomplished is proving that the disastrous decisions were made by him. That's it. End of story.

 

[Empress]

cases like this one are more akin to job performance reviews, where demotion, or discharge ( with, or without honours) are the likely outcomes UNLESS those involved find something to the point that grouse negligence actually becomes criminal.

Mohatu signing off on it may be a black mark in his books, and more importantly that of his staff/commanders for making him feel confident about authorizing it....but at the end of the day, it was stupid to agree without better intel and planning. but not criminal.

 

[Dmitri]

Mohatu would never be court martialed. He could be charged with treason, if that was the case, but not a court martial. You have a better chance of court martialling Hallen, who ordered Jade to kill Republic forces.

 

[Raif]

The only republic forces killed by Jade were those commandos that chose to stay behind to allow their comrades to escape. The biggest casualties of the Jade bombing were the hiding Bogan, so in reality she accomplished her mission of wiping out and Bogan present.

 

[Tsar Fire]

The only republic forces killed by Jade were those commandos that chose to stay behind to allow their comrades to escape. The biggest casualties of the Jade bombing were the hiding Bogan, so in reality she accomplished her mission of wiping out and Bogan present.

She also called down the bombers on all of the support staff and reserves still on the ground, including Adara. Just because Adara survived doesn't make her any happier about it.