Communication

[Mars]

/facepalm

The GA has lost pretty much every battle they've been in this timeline. Dividing their resources while already struggling to hold their ground elsewhere would be suicide.

/flex.

Also, Seps have always been anti-GA, as a heads up.

 

[Green Ranger]

But by aiding the Mandalorians you could have GAINED an ally to assist in Sith push backs...short termsacrifice = long term payout in this situation

Not if the Sith took the opportunity to attack, which they undoubtably would ICly, and probably OOCly.

Fighting a war on two fronts on opposite sides of your territory doesn't work. Ask Hitler.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Ask Hitler.

Goodwin's Law wins again.

 

[Green Ranger]

Goodwin's Law wins again.

Oh god damn it >.<

 

[Apollyon]

I am not playing a blame game here I am just stating my opinion, this civil war COULD have been avoided yes but it happened. We needed aid and got none, whither or not you could afford to or not doesn't matter just like in real life when a country doesn't help another regardless of current standings they are PISSED...only difference is Mandalorians have a way of taking their anger out in a way people tend to dislike. Now I exit this shitstorm before people go crazy and interwebz undies are throw in outrage :)

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I am not playing a blame game here I am just stating my opinion, this civil war COULD have been avoided yes but it happened. We needed aid and got none, whither or not you could afford to or not doesn't matter just like in real life when a country doesn't help another regardless of current standings they are PISSED...only difference is Mandalorians have a way of taking their anger out in a way people tend to dislike. Now I exit this shitstorm before people go crazy and interwebz undies are throw in outrage :)

Let me say again. Your characters have valid IC reasons to be annoyed at the Jedi and the Alliance, so long as those annoyances are kept IC. OOC, everyone needs to realize that we just weren't OOCly capable of doing anything in another faction's internal conflict.

 

[Django]

OOC I understand the reasons why the Loyalist didn't receive support, and that's fine. The reasoning behind my judgement were purely from an IC point of view. Just like James was, I believe.

 

[Apollyon]

OOC I understand the reasons why the Loyalist didn't receive support, and that's fine. The reasoning behind my judgement were purely from an IC point of view. Just like James was, I believe.

Correct! Although I used Ooc examples my argument was IC

 

[Green Ranger]

I'd also like to add that, at least for me, it seems like the GA and Jedi seem to come up fairly frequently when you guys start playing the blame game in regards to the state of this faction. While it's important to recognize the contributing factors, let's keep in mind that at the end of the day, the actions of the members of the faction - you guys - are what has brought the Mandos to the state they're in now. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see much admission of guilt from anyone.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

I'd also like to add that, at least for me, it seems like the GA and Jedi seem to come up fairly frequently when you guys start playing the blame game in regards to the state of this faction. While it's important to recognize the contributing factors, let's keep in mind that at the end of the day, the actions of the members of the faction - you guys - are what has brought the Mandos to the state they're in now. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see much admission of guilt from anyone.

To be fair, it wasn't these specific guys, but it was the loyalist side of things (I'm counting the old leadership as the loyalist side, because the current loyalists chose to remain on their side of the aisle). That's why the loyalists are the comparatively weaker side of the civil war, because most of the faction's best people gave up on the loyalist side and split off.

 

[Sreeya]

Who are active Loyalists, just out of curiosity?

 

[Mars]

I'd also like to add that, at least for me, it seems like the GA and Jedi seem to come up fairly frequently when you guys start playing the blame game in regards to the state of this faction. While it's important to recognize the contributing factors, let's keep in mind that at the end of the day, the actions of the members of the faction - you guys - are what has brought the Mandos to the state they're in now. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see much admission of guilt from anyone.

Actually, not really. 90% of the blame falls on old leadership, at least Sep-side. Loyalists may have something else to say but it is the general Seperatist belief that the GA, while weak and not really being able to offer much, shouldn't have HAD to help the Mandos in the first place. That's the fault of old leadership and the Loyalists should have known better than to go to them for help.

 

[Green Ranger]

As I said, that's just how it seems to come across, at least to me.

 

[Apollyon]

Who are active Loyalists, just out of curiosity?

Lucius, Nalla, Old Spice

 

[Django]

Who are active Loyalists, just out of curiosity?

Me, Lucius, Old Spice...

That's the only active pure Loyalists as far as I can tell.

I just realized how badly we lost.

 

[Die Shize]

When it comes to an alliance, does the Mandalorian faction have to branch out? Consider, I'm less than fluent in the goings-on when it comes to factions and whatnot. If a faction allies because, somehow IC, it strengthens that faction, then fair enough. Otherwise, maybe the Mandalorians should stand alone until and unless approached by an outside faction, whether Empire or Galactic Republic. Let the Mandalorians spend time seeing to themselves first.

If another faction sees potential in the Mandalorians, then there's your ally right there. To see such potential, that faction would have to see something that the Mandalorians could offer them. Would such an offer exist outright? Not a rhetorical question.

Not sure if I'm making sense here. I may be rambling about something that is drastically different than how factions work on this site. I don't know.

 

[Raif]

The Sith Empire has approached the Seps (or maybe the seps approached the empire) about an alliance

 

[Sreeya]

Me, Lucius, Old Spice...

That's the only active pure Loyalists as far as I can tell.

I just realized how badly we lost.

Uh...yeah..I'm starting to wonder about the point of this massive battle when one side only has 3 people. T_T

 

[Mars]

Uh...yeah..I'm starting to wonder about the point of this massive battle when one side only has 3 people. T_T

Oh....

NOW everyone gets it....

*smashes face into desk*

 

[Apollyon]

Nalla, Lucius, and Old Spice just need to fall in line like good little ducklings and blast some Jedi...it will heal your bruised egos :P "The Loyaltists Got This In The Bag!" /endtrollrant