Canon Lightsaber Crystal Lore *Potential Spoiler*

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What does this site considered canon lore for lightsaber crystals? I just read the book "Ahsoka" and in it she speaks about how sith lightsaber crystals are made by the crystals actually being corrupted by the dark side. The white coloration of her crystals were a result of her purifying a pair of corrupted crystals.

I'm wondering if we're using that lore or the lore that sith crystals are synthetic
 

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I think canon only Kyper crystals are the true crystals used for lightsabers. The blade color can be just about anything as far as i know that reflect the user's "heart" so if someone is corrupted perhaps their saber was originally blue the imbuing it with corrupted dark side (just like what they did to themselves) they change the color of the crystal.
 

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The Ahsoka canon is correct.
 

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Correct, they are corrupted crystals, not synthetic ones. Synthetic crystals exist, but they're basically just rocks. They're not used in lightsabers. Catalyst: A Rogue One Novel goes into that a bit. The tl;dr is that kyber crystals are alive. They're infused with the Force and are connected to nature. Synthetic crystals are not, so they can't be used like a lightsaber crystal.
 

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So can a blue lightsaber belonging to a Jedi change to red after that Jedi falls to the dark side? If so, at what point would the lightsaber crystal change color?
 

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Technically Force Crystals are made to be attuned to their owner. A Dark heart = corrupted crystal, pure heart = non-corrupted crystal. There are crystals that can actually be used to change the blade without being attuned to one's spirit. But this site only accepts Kyber? crystals only since Disney placed the Legend Tag on everything.

So can a blue lightsaber belonging to a Jedi change to red after that Jedi falls to the dark side? If so, at what point would the lightsaber crystal change color?

Technically....no. Anakin fell to the Darkside and his blade retained it's blue colour. In order for the blade to change colour one has to corrupt a new crystal or get a red colour changing crystal. However, you can do what you like since it's your story.

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But Ahsooka was able to change red crytals to white by purifying a corrpupted kyber crystal? Is this because crystals are innately attuned to the light?
 

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I haven't read the book yet....but one thing is clear about SW Novels....they're never accurate with one another. Each writer that writes a SW Novel changes something, or adds something. This maybe the case in that book.

Take Kenobi's Legacy crystal for example: Once the crystal is attuned to it's owner and placed into a hilt, only that person can use that lightsaber.

So you can realign the crystal as you see fit. And traditionally, crystals are neutral until attuned by an individual.
 

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Why didn't Anakin's lightsaber change color when he was slaughtering children?
 

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Well, if you're talking about outside the SW universe, it's because the lore changed when Disney took over the license and copyright. Back during Episode III, red crystals were still synthetic and thus wouldn't apply to Anakin. As far as how they go about explaining it internally, no fricken clue lol
 

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Why didn't Anakin's lightsaber change color when he was slaughtering children?

What Asha said, Disney changed the Lore on a lot of things. Before the hostile take over from Disney, the blade wouldn't change until he got a new crystal and attuned it to himself. But Vader is a poor example of a Sith. Yes...yes...I know he is the most well known but still a poor example.

Disney's new take on SW Lore is lopsided at best. They axed the whole Rule of Two (Bane's Sith) yet still recognize the second trilogy....Clone wars.
 

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Wait... They axed Bane? I know that they introduced the Inquisitors, but they were not considered to be "apprentices," just soldiers and assassins used to serve the emperor. Even before Disney bought Star Wars, they used that. In fact, Mara Jade was an Emperor's Hand back in EU and was trained in the ways of the Force, but never considered an apprentice.
 

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Yeah, I knew they axed MJ as well as all the other EU characters excluding Thrawn. I get they needed to start over.. but that's 20 years of SW history maaaan :(
 

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no, Bane and rule of two are is still cannon because the clone wars series which is cannon. in the series, Yoda goes to Moraband and meets the dark spirit of Bane and even specifically mentions he was the creator of the rule of two. and for my understanding of the new lore is that Jedi would mediate over crystal forming a bond with their lightsaber crystals. while sith would impose their will on the crystal rather than forming a bond, this would cause it turn red. that's why Anakin's lightsaber is still blue because he's yet to impose his will on the kyber crystal.
 
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That makes sense and is something I can get behind. I don't remember seeing Darth Bane in Clone Wars though lol
 

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That makes sense and is something I can get behind. I don't remember seeing Darth Bane in Clone Wars though lol
it was in season 6, episode 13 that was released on netflix in 2014
 

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They didn't axe these things, friends. They made them Legends. They've essentially said that they reserve the right to pick and choose what they incorporate into the canon universe. This is why we have Thrawn, mentions of Malachor, Bane's character if not his legacy of Rule of Two.

I would not be surprised, and nor should anyone else, if a lot more Legends ideas become part of the official continuity.
 

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Bane's spirit appears in TCW and the Rule of Two is still Canon since it's mentioned in both TPM and TCW. So they both work.

Revan's part of the concept material for the Mortis arc in TCW - I'm not sure if he's Canon. They did release figurines of him or something after the Canon/Legends split, but at the moment he seems like he's in a state of limbo between Legends only and both continuities.
 

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OK, so. There are some misconceptions here. Lemme try to address everything.

I haven't read the book yet....but one thing is clear about SW Novels....they're never accurate with one another. Each writer that writes a SW Novel changes something, or adds something. This maybe the case in that book.

Kind of. Each person adds to the Canon, but with the Lucasarts Story Group, it's all gonna be fairly consistent with each other.

So you can realign the crystal as you see fit. And traditionally, crystals are neutral until attuned by an individual.

That's not right. In the NuCanon, being the Disney Canon, Kyber Crystals are always resistant to the Dark Side, and and have to forcibly be corrupted.

Well, if you're talking about outside the SW universe, it's because the lore changed when Disney took over the license and copyright. Back during Episode III, red crystals were still synthetic and thus wouldn't apply to Anakin. As far as how they go about explaining it internally, no fricken clue lol

Eh. Kind of? The way Star Wars worked under Lucasarts was that there where different levels of continuity. Check them out here: Canon

So, something like, say, Mace's Purple Saber wasn't coordinated with how Lightsabers where in Legends. New canon was created around it to explain it. And I doubt George thought about synthetic sabers when going into writing the Prequels.

Yeah, I knew they axed MJ as well as all the other EU characters excluding Thrawn. I get they needed to start over.. but that's 20 years of SW history maaaan :(

They're adding a ton of it back. The first war with the Sith, the 1000 Year Darkness, expansion into the Rim, etc. They're also adding a lot of new stuff, and modifying the whole thing to be more cohesive.

They didn't axe these things, friends. They made them Legends. They've essentially said that they reserve the right to pick and choose what they incorporate into the canon universe. This is why we have Thrawn, mentions of Malachor, Bane's character if not his legacy of Rule of Two.

I would not be surprised, and nor should anyone else, if a lot more Legends ideas become part of the official continuity.

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Revan's part of the concept material for the Mortis arc in TCW - I'm not sure if he's Canon. They did release figurines of him or something after the Canon/Legends split, but at the moment he seems like he's in a state of limbo between Legends only and both continuities.

The only things canon from the Clone Wars where episodes, animatics, and concept art shown in the above two. Also, kind of, things confirmed by Dave Filoni.[/QUOTE]
 
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