Bobby Jindal 2012.

[Random Hero]

Nader-Gonzales 2012! :CHappy:

Nader and Ron Paul should run together. I would drive to every corner of NJ (Save Newark, Camden, and a handful of other places.) To rally for them.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Look at the various McCain rallies and Palin rallies. The vast majority of Republicans are racist xenophobic fascists.... Same goes to the democrats thinking bush ought to be killed or assassinated for "war crimes"

That's not true. Those are fringe elements, and they are unfortunately the bases of both parties. The problem is that even though the base is the minority within parties, they're the most vocal, therefore making it appear as if they are the majority. The people at the McCain and Palin rallies were the fringe extremist base elements.

If mainstream Republicans and mainstream Democrats voted in primary seasons (which, to be fair, the mainstream Democrats did do this year), then national nominees would be a hell of a lot better than Bush, Gore and Kerry.

 

[Koth Melan]

That's not true. Those are fringe elements, and they are unfortunately the bases of both parties.

By your own admission there, you've just amidtted that the core membership is comprised, on both sides, of people unfit to be citizens of this country, and on the republican side, xenophobic fascists.

The problem is that even though the base is the minority within parties, they're the most vocal, therefore making it appear as if they are the majority. The people at the McCain and Palin rallies were the fringe extremist base elements.

Another common lie told by people that are ashamed of their own parties. These people aren't crazy cooks or black helicopter folks. They are people that are right wing republicans who are voicing their genuine racist feelings. Look at the guy who spoke up a t a rally to john McCain at a rally and said he was truly afraid for Obama to be president, and McCain got BOOED for saying there was nothing to be afraid about and that Obama was a decent man. These are the people that make up the MAJORIITy of the Republican party. You're the minority, unfortunately.

If mainstream Republicans and mainstream Democrats voted in primary seasons (which, to be fair, the mainstream Democrats did do this year), then national nominees would be a hell of a lot better than Bush, Gore and Kerry.

So you're blaming the demographics and not the candidates? Bush got elected because he suppressed the Afro American vote, and the Supreme Court elected him, not the People. Kerry did not get elected because he was a poor candidate, and was two face, and incumbents rarely lose elections to begin with.

I still don't see how the vast majority of Democrats and Republicans would classify as 'radical' or 'extremist'. You're insisting that there are more bad apples than good.

Of course I do. The election this year has divided this country more than any other in the past. Extremists on both sides have hijacked their parties, and have corrupted the system beyond repair. Racists on the right, and extreme fundamentalist "communists" on the left, who merely hate what capitalism does, but love the benefits. They are nothing but wolves in sheeps clothing. The whole system must be destroyed for progress to happen.

I would argue that the opposite is the case. Only a handful of Republicans and Democrats would actually go out and set fire to buildings or attack someone at the opposite end of the political spectrum. Sure, at times the system gets crazy and you have Democrats vs. Republicans, but at the end of the day, we're all still Americans, and I seriously doubt that the lot of us in the majority would go out and perform some extremist act of any sort.

Nobody said they set fire to buildings or attacked people. Thats what we sort of people do. Anarchists and true communists go out and try to dismantle the system. It's our civic duty to riot. People who are pissed off and don't vote or protest, don't have a right to do anything but get what they get. If you take action, you're exercising your rights. What do you think the Boston Tea Party was? This country ( USA ) was founded on civil disobedience.

Racism and blind hate on the other hand is not. Republicans want a return to the Reagan status quo and supposed "true" conservatism. The problem is that true conservatism will never, ever happen in this nation again, because it has failed, spectacularly. The right wing knows this, and their pissed off that the rest of the country knows it too. That's why you have the lot of them reverting back to racism and xenophobic fascist tendencies.

Look on youtube, you can see the amount of general hatred for Obama on an irrational level. Not because he's a liberal, or he supports abortion or national healthcare. But because he's black, he has a funny name and his middle name is Hussein.

In that same vein, there have been several reports of violence among Obama supporters. For example, some Obama supporters shot at one of McCain's buses with a a .22 caliber weapon, and paint balls. In Philadelphia, some anti-Palin rallists shouted "Let's stone her [Palin], old school." Even in my own neighborhood, one of my friend's cars got shot at for having a 'McCain-Palin bumper' sticker on it. Broken windows and ruined doors, the whole deal. Republicians aren't the only ones that have crazies, they're just the only ones that get televised.

Of course. That's what happens when you choose a loud mouthed, ignorant running mate who condones such things said at her rally like bomb Obama and the anti-arab racism. I personally think that shooting up the people that support her an acceptable retaliation. As I said earlier, there will always be those who will never accept a return to the status quo. There are crazies on both sides, however we're trying to debate wether you think there are a majority of Racists on the right side, not who did what to which supporters.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

Another common lie told by people that are ashamed of their own parties.

And with that comment, I'm done here.

 

[The Count of Monte Cristo]

And with that comment, I'm done here.

What the hell? I was going to post but his stupidity is astounding.

I don't even think Sin could say that and to me he is one of the more Democratic members of the site who likes to challenge a lot.

You are going to ignore me no matter what I say. Which means you are arrogant. Your posts are moronic. Seriously you might want to stop.

I am debating on if you are an Anarchist, belong to the National Pedophile Party, or are an extremist.

 

[Matt]

Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd lock.

 

[Brandon Rhea]

What the hell? I was going to post but his stupidity is astounding.

I don't even think Sin could say that and to me he is one of the more Democratic members of the site who likes to challenge a lot.

You are going to ignore me no matter what I say. Which means you are arrogant. Your posts are moronic. Seriously you might want to stop.

I am debating on if you are an Anarchist, belong to the National Pedophile Party, or are an extremist.

First of all, what the ****? Are you talking to me and, if so, why? Second of all, regardless of who you were saying that to, calm down. That's inappropriate no matter what is being said in a debate thread.