ATTN: Concerning the Stormtrooper Corps

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Hey Everybody!

It has come to the attention of many people here on the site that the Stormtrooper Corps is completely dead and lacking active members. This creates a huge problem for many members that would like to RP foot soldiers and the like rather than force users. In order to remedy this problem, I will be reviewing/editing/adding to the Stormtrooper Corps information and write-ups in order to make the Corps more appealing. I will also be starting several missions in order to spark interest in the Stormtrooper Corps. So, if you have ever considered making a Stormtrooper, but were turned off by the inactivity, now is the time to sign up! If you have a Stormtrooper character that has been inactive, now would be an ideal time to get them back into the fight! Keep an eye on the Stormtrooper sub-forum for updates and changes.

1st IMPORTANT CHANGE: The previous requirement of achieving the "Enlisted" rank within the Imperial Military in order to apply to the Stormtrooper Corps has been removed. You may now immediately apply for the Stormtrooper Corps upon creation of your character.

If you have any questions or ideas, feel free to post them here.

Thanks,
Falcon
 

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If my character slots weren't filled I'd hop in on this in an instant, dang.
 

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I'm going to be making one. Aside from that, Darth Vires will be working heavily alongside these guys.
 

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I may retire a char and make one, or give my useless Amelie an alter ego lmao
 

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I got a stormtrooper, though he is gonna learn more about the force.
 

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I'll either be creating a character for this or using Gar. Who is a badass. But his head-tentacle things won't fit in a stormtrooper helmet very well.
 

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I'm going to be making one. Aside from that, Darth Vires will be working heavily alongside these guys.

Awwwww yaaaaaaa.

I may retire a char and make one, or give my useless Amelie an alter ego lmao

Alter egos are always fun.

I got a stormtrooper, though he is gonna learn more about the force.

Sounds interesting, is he currently on the roster?

I'll either be creating a character for this or using Gar. Who is a badass. But his head-tentacle things won't fit in a stormtrooper helmet very well.

Both sound like good ideas. And I'm sure we can work around the tentacle things.


That multi quote function is so awesome.
 

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I applied with him a while back, got accepted from what i know by Zach or Veiss. Can't remember by who.
 

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All of your characters will make excellent targets for SpecForce.
 

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I wish I knew more about military crap so I could beat up GA people >.<
 

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Sreeya suggested I voice my opinion on some things, so here they are:

1) Revamping a military requires baby steps. You don't run before you walk, and you don't walk before you crawl. The most basic level of organization in a military is non-existent. This basic level organization is what everyone knows as "Units." The lack of ACTUAL set units in the STC (i.e. 1st Infantry Div, 2nd Armored Div, 3rd Air Wing) allows no discipline and almost too much freedom. There's no way in hell that a soldier will fight a battle on one side of the galaxy and then days later fight another one on the other side of the galaxy- it's unrealistic. Having set units operating both together and independently will nullify this without question. Having set units also adds a pride factor. For example, say one character is in the 1st Infantry Division and fights a battle on Tatooine and wins. His friend is in the 2nd Armored Division and fights at Ord Mantell but only wins because they have mutual support from the 3rd and 4th Divisions. The next time they get together, the encounter will be that much more interesting because each character is loyal to his/her unit and will think they're unit to be the best. Make sense?

2) Leadership. In my time at SWRP especially being an Imperial, I have seen the incompetence of many of the people in leadership roles. The STC needs competent leadership that not only are good tacticians but can, if asked or demanded of them, act in certain sectors of the galaxy independently even if they have no chance of reinforcements or help. This will build the confidence of the enlisted troopers in their leaders' ability to lead them in battle and win. Too many times have I watched a battle from the side lines and been totally disgusted at the lack of competence and tactics used by the leadership. To fix this, I suggest that whatever leadership is decided get with me or anyone else who knows tactics and how a military works so that either myself or who ever they choose can advise them and help them BEFORE its too late and they're in a battle where they're completely unprepared.

3) Activity of leadership. I'm not as active as I'd like to be because of my job. I know several high ranking people who are inactive due to laziness or a lack of willingness to do work involved in running a military. It's almost like they're just "all battle no logistics." You can't fight battles without logistics and that's been proven on many occasions.

4) Updating the armor and weaponry would be for the best. Every faction has been updating their assets but the Imperium has not. The question I ask is why?

5) ACTUAL TRAINING. People just don't say "I wanna be a soldier" and they become one the next day. Even after bootcamp/basic and SOI/AIT, soldiers still train. I myself have been on a combat deployment and still have to go to the field to train. This training can be done by units (prefered for specific specialization) or it can be done abroad across the entire STC. Some people don't know how to fight with a non-force trained character. ALOT of people don't know how to fight in combat where machine guns and rockets are aimed in at you and your squad. This training will help with that and better focus the military might and the skills of the RPer to be able to handle whatever comes their way.


I'll prolly have more later, but those are my thoughts.
 

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I too have been sent by Sreeya.

I personally have always found the Stormtroopers a very awesome idea and branch. Though for this timeline, making one seems completely useless. The Sith are allowed to kill, they use the Force with (in most cases) superior ability than a Jedi, and have powers/masters/abilities which allow them to do what the GA Special Forces can't do or need a foreign device/object/person to aid them.

Question: Would you rather have a squad of elite commandos trained by the best the Empire has to offer or 2 Sith Assassins trained by the Illusion Master/Assassin Master of the Sith Order?

I personally would rather have 2 Sith Assassins do this job. They're an army when put in front of a regular commando, even one that's trained in the Force but doesn't have a Lightsaber.

In the words of Obi-Wan: "Your father's light saber. This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a blaster; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.."

I think they're a great idea as a distraction/blunt force. As a secretive unit of commandos or anything else, give me a few trained Marauders, Assassins, or just a Sith Master.
 

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Ah, that brings up the age old problem of FS being way too OP next to Non FS..
 

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I too have been sent by Sreeya.

I personally have always found the Stormtroopers a very awesome idea and branch. Though for this timeline, making one seems completely useless. The Sith are allowed to kill, they use the Force with (in most cases) superior ability than a Jedi, and have powers/masters/abilities which allow them to do what the GA Special Forces can't do or need a foreign device/object/person to aid them.

Question: Would you rather have a squad of elite commandos trained by the best the Empire has to offer or 2 Sith Assassins trained by the Illusion Master/Assassin Master of the Sith Order?

I personally would rather have 2 Sith Assassins do this job. They're an army when put in front of a regular commando, even one that's trained in the Force but doesn't have a Lightsaber.

In the words of Obi-Wan: "Your father's light saber. This is the weapon of a Jedi Knight. Not as clumsy or random as a blaster; an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.."

I think they're a great idea as a distraction/blunt force. As a secretive unit of commandos or anything else, give me a few trained Marauders, Assassins, or just a Sith Master.

The STC is not a commando unit. When I was talking of units, I meant Legions, Battalions, Companies- not teams and squads. The STC encompasses ALL stormtroopers, not just the special forces. In that regard, the STC would have a very specific mission that the Sith alone could not complete without them: War. The Sith can fight, I know this, but how many times has Darth Illusia had to storm across an open field with machine guns and artillery peppering the ground around her? How many times has any Sith had to do that. By nature, Sith use armies to defeat other armies so that they have a clear path to the strongest opponent: The leader.

I'm not denouncing the combat effectiveness of a team of highly trained Sith, but give me a Division or even jut a battalion of stormtroopers and some supporting arms and I'll be able to cover more ground and win more battles faster than your team of Sith. That's the point of the STC. Where as the Sith would use patience, there seldom is any patience in war.

This also brings up an interesting compromise. What if teams of Sith and STC units worked together to accomplish goals. The STC dukes it out with the GA main force while the team of Sith enjoy the distraction and can get in without much strenuous effort and do what they do best from the inside out.
 

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The STC is not a commando unit. When I was talking of units, I meant Legions, Battalions, Companies- not teams and squads. The STC encompasses ALL stormtroopers, not just the special forces. In that regard, the STC would have a very specific mission that the Sith alone could not complete without them: War. The Sith can fight, I know this, but how many times has Darth Illusia had to storm across an open field with machine guns and artillery peppering the ground around her? How many times has any Sith had to do that. By nature, Sith use armies to defeat other armies so that they have a clear path to the strongest opponent: The leader.

I'm not denouncing the combat effectiveness of a team of highly trained Sith, but give me a Division or even jut a battalion of stormtroopers and some supporting arms and I'll be able to cover more ground and win more battles faster than your team of Sith. That's the point of the STC. Where as the Sith would use patience, there seldom is any patience in war.

This also brings up an interesting compromise. What if teams of Sith and STC units worked together to accomplish goals. The STC dukes it out with the GA main force while the team of Sith enjoy the distraction and can get in without much strenuous effort and do what they do best from the inside out.

The point of my argument has nothing to do with the size of armies. I fully understand that without the stormtrooper the Sith armies would be nothing.

Though as a player you create a character. ONE character. Not a brigade, not an army, one man or woman. So lets say 10 people make storm troopers, we have 10 individual storm troopers. Are you going to lead a unit, squad, platoon, or whatever size military unit you have? Yes. But why do you need a stormtrooper for this?

All a Stormtrooper is on this chessboard is a Pawn. You might be able to create one that gets up to Bishop status, but you'll never get a Stormtrooper to be a King or Queen. I think there is room for interesting stories playing a stormie, I just feel why send a Pawn to do a Knight's job.
 
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