Ultimately, whether or not a creator exists, and how it all came to be is moot. Until something happens to prove one way or another, we can argue until the cows come home. Thus, it's this part that I'm going to pick up on.
Indeed.
Alright, that's fair enough. This is, as you said earlier, largely down to personal perception. But, ponder on this, for a moment.
Life exists. We agree here, right? I'd be very surprised if we don't, to be honest.
I can't be sure. If we're going into this, all I can actually be sure of is that I have cognitive thought. The rest of this could all be a wondrous illusion, and there is no way to prove it is not. You might say that you to are capable of cognitive thought, but as far as I know that just might be your programming, if you will.
I agree my thought process "lives" in some format or another. More than that, we can't be sure.
You cannot create something out of nothing. Again, I'd be surprised if we disagree.
No, you can't. Not in the sense that you need the same amount of reactants as products in a chemical reaction, if you see the analogy.
Life had to start somewhere. Agree?
Thus the following problem arises - There was a time when life was not life (pre-life, if you will). At this point, what would (or could) one day be life, is no different from the rock/gas/sludge next to it.
My "life" started somewhere. Assuming that all the scientific facts we are aware of are true, then there is still no reason that the universe, for want of a better term, had a given starting point. We don't know what happened before the big bang. We can only speculate. This is also assuming that "time" (if you take it as an entity rather than a human concept) is linear, rather than circular, and both are illogical. If time is linear, then that means that, as we are living in a given portion of it, it must have started at a given point. But because of the nature of time there had to be time before that, so again, a paradox. If time is circular, then it's in a cycle, but what determines how a given cycle continues, and when it gets back to the beginning, again a paradox.
So in that sense there is no way of being sure when anything started. It's all speculation, even if we assume that life is real and we are all free thinking beings.
No. We don;t know where that came from. There might have been a trillion year existence on a whole plane we don't understand before that. We don't know.@Sin: You're saying matter just came out of nowhere? It's just existed all of the sudden, and then exploded? You call that logical?
And all matter did come from the big bang, all coming from nuclear fusion...that's how elements are made.
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