A grand party ooc

[Arm514ve]

Ok no I can't keep quiet on this one after looking at this thread then seeing what happened there is no way in hell those not protected by the blast shield would have survived the explosion and being sucked into the vacuum of space. The explosion would have been so fast the sith would have had no time to react and if they were close enough to the blast would have been blown to bits.

Sorry I'm not buying that everyone survived other than the moff protected by the shield.

 

[Dmitri]

Possibly, though I'm unsure if there's credibility in the complaint if bomber is fine with it. Also, th ough I may have just missed, I don't think the hull was breach, just an explosion in the ballroom; if it did, my apologies.

 

[Arm514ve]

Here let me quote those not protected you Weiss I have no issue with that was worked out on how to save your character its the two sith I have an issue with surviveing. Not protected were practically on top of the device,

it happened all at once and with no warning, a Ray shield dropped from the ceiling sealing Moff Xinn in it, and the bust containing the Mandalorian helmet exploded 50lbs of Plastic explosive tightly wrapped into a neat little package, the explosion was massive, flame, shrapnel and concussive force shot out everywhere, the windows and hull plating the Bust had been standing near shattered venting the room into space, if the concussive force, flame and shrapnel from the explosion didn't kill the patrons the trip into the void of space would, it wasn't a nice trip into space with no protection.

Kinda hard to survive and use force powers when flung onto your ass and explosively decompressed. and not to mention no warning no danger to sense just hahaha BOOOOM!

 

[Dmitri]

True, you have apoint. However, the other participants aren't complaining so unless you plan to sunnon an admin, I don't it'll change.

 

[Arm514ve]

actually I have. this is ridiculous everyone lived and no one has complained yet because the person your now hunting down isn't on and hasn't posted for the last couple of posts do you not see the issue here why I'm bringing this up. I hate to say but he got you guys good and now you want to ignore that and kill him before he gets on not right in my book. that's why I'm bringing this up.

 

[Fusion]

Well don't expect me to let another cheap character death occur. Having that one occur was bad enough. Not going to let another happen in such a short span of time.

 

[Arm514ve]

Fusion its not a matter of being cheap its a matter of he got you guys you were the ones who walked in to the thread and got caught in an elaborate trap. it sucks yes but ignoring what happened is far worse there is no physical way you could live through that if the blast didn't kill you guys the lack of air would from explosive decompression.

 

[Bad Wolf]

And Arm is right I went to bed last night after requesting an Admin ruling because I felt the way that everyone except the Grand General and the Moff surviving was incredibly cheap and lame, my feeling is if this can happen to the Jedi in there own temple than it can happen to anybody and before any one get's started on I couldn't have pulled it off, yes I could and yes I did I made an entire post about building the bomb and setting it up.

you guys should have no reason to suspect my character in this, if anyone should be suspected it should be Moff Xinn or the Grand General, my character was nowhere near the bomb and if you had bothered paying attention to the post he mentions specifically returning to work on a "super secret project"

Edit: Also I distinctly posted that my stealth fighter jumped system while my customs frigate stayed in system to make it look like I was fleeing so unless you guys are metagaming in knowing I have a stealth fighter in the first place I'd really like to know why you suspect me of having a stealth fighter instead of going after the frigate, also Nax isn't force sensitive so tracking him through the force is really difficult.

 

[Quantum_Dragon]

I am kinda a newb bu will offer my two sense...

While the explosion may not have been enough to blow out the actual plating, this would have been because the pressure would have found the quickest path of release, which would have been trasperasteel (Windows), however the amount of pressure needed to burst transparasteel Windows still would have been enough to knock you unconcious, burst your ear drums rendering you off balance or completly destroyed soft tissues susceptible to pressure.

If I read it wrong and there is no transparasteel, then the effects are even worse as hull plating on a ship can take massive pressure before blowing out, an example of nukes in a cruiser in vong books showed the ships can handle massive internal pressures and still not "blow apart". Either way, the tissues of the in the room would had to be exposed to those pressures capable of incapacitating those not prepared.

Hope this helps! Also sorry if not explained well, posted from my phone.

 

[Johnnysaurus Rex]

This thread is currently being reviewed by myself. Thank you for your patience as I render a verdict.

 

[Dmitri]

@Keinushi: Due to admin intervention, I will be waiting on the verdict before replying, if the current situation still applies.

 

[Johnnysaurus Rex]

Admin Verdict:

I've read the threads and this adjoining OOC topic and have come to the decision that Fusion and Keinushi's characters did not survive the blast. This is what the blast would be like. There is no possible way for the characters to react quickly enough let alone survive the heat, concussion, debris, or jettison into space. Jax Voss's character Xinn lives due to the shielding.

In addition to that I may add that Nax left and sent his frigate on its separate course before the actual explosion. That is a fair enough time for it to have sped away and jumped yo hyper space. I do however see it as completely observable Nax has left at such a suspicious time when the incident comes under investigation IC.

I would like to note that Keinushi, Weiss, Jax, and Fusion all posted about two and a half pages worth of actions without Jenna-Wolf so much as getting a move and culminating by automatically hitting his stealth fighter on top of automatically suspecting him and knowing he had departed in a stealth aircraft.

The thread shall revert to the point where Weiss' character comes to the station. Thank you for your time and patience in this matter.

 

[Dmitri]

Given my post. Not sure who goes next.

 

[Fusion]

Lmfao... This is it. Final straw of bullshit. I'm done here.

 

[Johnnysaurus Rex]

Lmfao... This is it. Final straw of bullshit. I'm done here.

Fusion, this is something that took Jenna two threads to set up. You were in the position and you will find it impossible to RP escaping such an explosion even if you had time to react.

 

[Fusion]

Guess I have to use the Other option then.

 

[Johnnysaurus Rex]

In regards to this thread there are no other options. You character's death was not a suggestion but a final verdict.

 

[Zach]

Johny, I'm going to have to contest some of what's going on. Now, I haven't read the thread, but I've been briefed on what happened.

So far, what I know, is that a bomb was planted where the Mandalore helmet was placed, and it basically blew a hole in the wall, sucking out the air into the vacuum of space.

Fusion's reaction was to form a protection bubble around his and Kei's characters while Kei went to activate the ray shields.

From what I'm hearing, it sounds like this has been over-ruled, but this is perfectly legitimate action. The only thing in question from my point of view is the ability to accurately protect Fusion and Kei's character, but this is a technique that's been used countless times in the RP and canon.

Furthermore, if I'm correctly understanding the situation, ray shields and protective blast doors/shields should have automatically kicked in to stabilize the room. There wouldn't be any need to activate them manually, so that's kind of redundant, but it's still effective. Ruling that they have no chance to respond to the bomb isn't fair, and voiding their legitimate actions is a bit out there.

If my reasons for contesting this is invalid, I would like to request that this be put on hold until Xeno comes back from his trip (Friday), since I'm the only available moderator for the Sith, and this sounds like it directly effects the faction.

 

[Zach]

Here let me quote those not protected you Weiss I have no issue with that was worked out on how to save your character its the two sith I have an issue with surviveing. Not protected were practically on top of the device,

Quote:
it happened all at once and with no warning, a Ray shield dropped from the ceiling sealing Moff Xinn in it, and the bust containing the Mandalorian helmet exploded 50lbs of Plastic explosive tightly wrapped into a neat little package, the explosion was massive, flame, shrapnel and concussive force shot out everywhere, the windows and hull plating the Bust had been standing near shattered venting the room into space, if the concussive force, flame and shrapnel from the explosion didn't kill the patrons the trip into the void of space would, it wasn't a nice trip into space with no protection.

Kinda hard to survive and use force powers when flung onto your ass and explosively decompressed. and not to mention no warning no danger to sense just hahaha BOOOOM!

Upon further review of the details, this entire event should be voided. There's absolutely no way that this bomb could have been covertly planted, per this thread. Through complete scans of security and base protocol, this bomb wouldn't have been able to be placed at all, let alone detonated without warning. Let alone the trace signatures of the explosive materials used,

 

[Matt]

Johny, I'm going to have to contest some of what's going on. Now, I haven't read the thread, but I've been briefed on what happened.

So far, what I know, is that a bomb was planted where the Mandalore helmet was placed, and it basically blew a hole in the wall, sucking out the air into the vacuum of space.

Fusion's reaction was to form a protection bubble around his and Kei's characters while Kei went to activate the ray shields.

From what I'm hearing, it sounds like this has been over-ruled, but this is perfectly legitimate action. The only thing in question from my point of view is the ability to accurately protect Fusion and Kei's character, but this is a technique that's been used countless times in the RP and canon.

Furthermore, if I'm correctly understanding the situation, ray shields and protective blast doors/shields should have automatically kicked in to stabilize the room. There wouldn't be any need to activate them manually, so that's kind of redundant, but it's still effective. Ruling that they have no chance to respond to the bomb isn't fair, and voiding their legitimate actions is a bit out there.

If my reasons for contesting this is invalid, I would like to request that this be put on hold until Xeno comes back from his trip (Friday), since I'm the only available moderator for the Sith, and this sounds like it directly effects the faction.

Thought I would add my weight to this.

Ray shields and such would activate but would they activate straight away? Can't see it with a blast of that magnitude ripping through something.

Also, take into account that even if a Jedi/Sith has an explosion go off so close to them that they aren't going to have a piece of mind to fling up a shield around themselves in time. At least from my perspective they wouldn't.