As Corden himself stated. If you're a good warrior and have proven yourself to the Clans, then you shouldn't have to worry about anything. If you are however just a puffed up bag of hot air hiding behind a swanky title and a Clan name, then as said, they won't respect you and come kick your ass. This is a culture of nomadic, honourbound, family-obsessed, warriors. The right to lead is constantly challenged
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Mando'ade = Mandalorian People ( plural ) Literally "Sons and daughters of Mandalore"
Mandalorian = Mandalorian Person ( Singular ) Literally "Son / Daughter of Mandalore"
Mando'ad = A non existent word in the language which would mean.. Mandalorian? Why not just use Mandalorian? I'm assuming you're using it in the singular refrence, which is ably served by the word Mandalorian.
Just seems a bit redundant.
I'm not the best guy to ask on history mando or star wars.. But I know a lot most don't, I sat for 2 weeks during x-mas on my phone on wookieepdia. PC was died. I read so much on star wars. ;).Actually the original Mandalorian religion fought to end Chaos and Stagnation, they believed order came THROUGH war and for one to find their TRUE self they had to be placed in life or death situations. They believed that is when someone's true colors came out, plain and simple mandalorians have NEVER fought for chaos, they fought to discover themselves or to spread the mando'ad influence.
As to the hot air comment, no I am not I researched the Mandalorians back to their roots when they were little more then religious warriors living in huts. I was simply stating when the Mandalorians had a armor and rank system was when they were most effective is all no need to get all uppity :P
The rank system is intended to be very informal. Personally, I'd rather have no ranks at all and carry on much like you've suggested, but that takes something away from the many members who want to see a clear result of their character's efforts over time. If you haven't already, check this thread out. It isn't a perfect system, but I was attempting to find middle ground. IC, it makes sense that they'd have nothing but a loose hierarchy consisting of Mand'alor and the various clan leaders. OOC, it would be difficult to establish a chain-of-command without some sort of guide in place. Members would likely argue about whose character has more authority. Having this informal rank structure prevents that. However, it may be possible to do away with "faction ranking" and leave it to the clans to decide their internal rank structure or lack thereof. The faction could still have a Solyc Al'akaan (Mandalore's second-in-command/right hand man), but then the rest of the leadership could be clan leaders, who obviously serve a dual role... they'd be aliit'alore (clan leaders) and al'akaan (war leaders; general/admiral analogs).
Essentially, it could be arranged like this...
- Mand'alor
- Solyc Al'akaan
- Al'akaane/Aliit'alore
Each Al'akaan/aliit'alor would then determine who is to serve as his or her second-in-command and which warriors have command of platoons and such during battle. That can be achieved through a clan rank structure or determined through skill and prowess. Regardless, it would be up to the clan leader to decide. What do you think about that?
As far as approaching Mand'alor goes, that's how I try to portray it. The problem is, many people still think of Mando ranks as if they were real world ranks or GA/Imperium ranks. Those are strict rank systems where discipline and obedience are enforced. It shouldn't be that way for the Mandalorians. The loyalty, obedience, and respect of the warriors under a leader should be earned. Even so, many role-players still try to portray their characters as if other Mandalorians owe them respect and obediance just because of their title. I can't stand that. I see it all the time in real life. Mandalorians would knock that person off their high horse and then move along. It just isn't tolerated. Actions are what make a Mandalorian and leaders should be the ones who prove themselves in combat time and time again... that means if a ge'verd can do your job better than you, then he or she has every right to challenge your leadership and take your place. Make sense?
My point is, rank doesn't matter. Unfortunately, people still think it does no matter what write-ups I post or what Corden himself has said IC. Also, on another note, I've had every intention of using the Oyu'baat as a meeting grounds just like you described. I've wanted to do that long before I became faction leader... we just have to get Manda'yaim back first.
As for Force sensitives: Corden isn't too keen either, but that's clan business. As long as they follow the Resol'nare and behave like true Mandalorians should, he won't get involved. Now, if they were to try and form some kind of Jedi Order for the Mandalorians... that wouldn't sit well with him at all. He views the Force as a tool and despises those that would use it like a crutch. Force sensitive Mandalorians should live and train like every other Mandalorian. They shouldn't get special treatment, special training, or a special title.
Mars is spot on. If someone is acting that way IC, your character has every right (in fact, he or she has a responsibility) to knock that person off their high horse and put them in their place. Every Mando character is a Verd. Verde aren't at the "bottom" of the totem pole. They are the totem pole. It's a general term. It means WARRIOR, not private... and many people seem to have forgotten that. Being a Verd means your character has passed is or her Verd'goten (the traditional Mandalorian rite of passage). It means your character has equal rights and standing in Mandalorian society. It means he or she is considered an adult. That's all. It isn't a lesser role by any means. It's the standard. People who are Verde either haven't earned a position of leadership yet or have no interest in earning one.
Everyone, please look at the faction roster. See my character Coro Kevara? He's the CEO of MandalMotors. If we were using some sort of class system, wouldn't he deserve a higher rank given his position? But that isn't the case. He holds no military title because he isn't serving in a military role. Key word there: title. That's all they are. These titles serve to distinguish individuals by the roles they lead. If someone is a Me'sen Al'verde, you know he or she is a starship commander. If someone is a Traat'ab Al'verde, you know he or she is an infantry commander. If someone is a Ver'alor, you know he or she probably leads a platoon of warriors on the battlefield. Why? Because that warrior has earned the respect of his fellow Verde and shown he or she is capable of leading. Alternatively, that Ver'alor could have earned his or her title/role by showing aptitude in space combat; now he or she is commanding a squadron of starfighters or a few small starships because of it. The titles specify roles/jobs. These roles must be earned and your character must remain skilled and proficient in them. Fail or abuse the position and you get replaced. Simple as that... like I said, everyone is Verd. It's synonymous with Mandalorian. They aren't "grunts" or "privates." In the end, there's just Mand'alor and then there's Mando'ade. Everything else is a job title.
I know I ranted on for a while there and probably backtracked a few times and repeated myself, but it's late here and I'm exhausted. Hopefully it still gets my point across.
Danielle LITERALLY left her people high and dry! She is without honor and deserves what she is getting
The problem is, many people still think of Mando ranks as if they were real world ranks or GA/Imperium ranks. Those are strict rank systems where discipline and obedience are enforced. It shouldn't be that way for the Mandalorians. The loyalty, obedience, and respect of the warriors under a leader should be earned.
Every Mando character is a Verd. Verde aren't at the "bottom" of the totem pole. They are the totem pole. It's a general term. It means WARRIOR, not private... and many people seem to have forgotten that. Being a Verd means your character has passed is or her Verd'goten (the traditional Mandalorian rite of passage). It means your character has equal rights and standing in Mandalorian society. It means he or she is considered an adult. That's all. It isn't a lesser role by any means. It's the standard. People who are Verde either haven't earned a position of leadership yet or have no interest in earning one.
Every Mando character is a Verd. Verde aren't at the "bottom" of the totem pole. They are the totem pole. It's a general term. It means WARRIOR, not private... and many people seem to have forgotten that. Being a Verd means your character has passed is or her Verd'goten (the traditional Mandalorian rite of passage). It means your character has equal rights and standing in Mandalorian society. It means he or she is considered an adult. That's all. It isn't a lesser role by any means. It's the standard. People who are Verde either haven't earned a position of leadership yet or have no interest in earning one.
"You can't rule Mandalorians. You just make sensible suggestions they want to follow. And since when have Mandalorians needed to be told what makes sense?"
―Boba Fett
But it doesn't matter if A'den or Manda'lor tell you to shut up or fire a gun, They are that rank cuz they have respect of all the other mando
It doesn't matter what their ranks are. They weren't acting professionally in that thread, and that's where they got called out. Rank doesn't mean JACK. Have you forgotten Phil who was Mand'alor? He had rank, and he had respect ICly. But that didn't make him right. Drop this debate please, all of you. If anyone wants to challenge anyone, do it ICly. Bickering like this is only making you guys look immature. It should never have crossed over from IC to OoC in the first place.