The Last Jedi Trailer

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Pffttt...if its time for the Jedi to end then why is Rey being trained?

Plus is good to see Mark Hamill with more lines this time around xD
 

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Well that was like a solid two minutes of me getting the chills....
 

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@GABA LAMA DING DONG I think that what he means is it's time for the traditions and name of the Jedi to die, and for him and Rey to forge something new together.

[Edit: I just made it sound like there's gonna be a Rey/Luke romance. Wow... I really need to work on my phrasing.]
 

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They finally clear up what the the Force in balance means and we get a new grey force order. And lo and behold all them grey characters!
 

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Did anyone else catch the references to the original trilogy?

0:47 — "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi.." (Episode IV, Leia)
0:53 — "He was seduced by the dark side..." (Episode IV, Obi-Wan)
1:01 — "It surrounds us... binds us..." (Episode V, Yoda)

That last line, though, just makes everything. So excited :3
 

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What do you see? Light, darkness. It's so much more!

That was such a good exchange, and I think we saw the journal of the whills?
 

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Did anyone else catch the references to the original trilogy?

0:47 — "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi.." (Episode IV, Leia)
0:53 — "He was seduced by the dark side..." (Episode IV, Obi-Wan)
1:01 — "It surrounds us... binds us..." (Episode V, Yoda)

That last line, though, just makes everything. So excited :3
I didn't catch that, had to go back a listen a couple times :D
 

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What do you see? Light, darkness. It's so much more!

That was such a good exchange, and I think we saw the journal of the whills?
Given the recent focus on the prophecies from the Journal (that quote that started out The Force Awakens novel), I'd say that that is definitely the Journal of the Whills.
 

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They finally clear up what the the Force in balance means and we get a new grey force order. And lo and behold all them grey characters!

*Waits for the announcement of the Star Wars Netflix show "Grey is the new Black"*
 

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I cannot wait to see how he brings an end to the Jedi.
 

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@GABA LAMA DING DONG I think that what he means is it's time for the traditions and name of the Jedi to die, and for him and Rey to forge something new together.

[Edit: I just made it sound like there's gonna be a Rey/Luke romance. Wow... I really need to work on my phrasing.]
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Time for the Grey Jedi!
 

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After some careful consideration of the trailer, I have the following thoughts:

This hype about "grey" Jedi is probably premature and precisely the reaction they wanted. Mark Hamill stated in an interview just after the trailer debuted that the teaser is deliberately misleading. He and Daisy went on to talk about how, in this film, Luke Skywalker isn't the man Rey expected; he's experiencing a crisis of faith surrounding the fall of Kylo Ren and the demise of his Jedi students at the hands of his nephew. Combine that with Han's quote the previous movie about Luke blaming himself and walking away from it all, it is far more likely that Luke's quote at the end of the teaser was not meant to herald the literal end of the Jedi (else, as GABA said, why is he training Rey later?), but it is meant to highlight his own doubt in the Jedi as a result of the tragedies he has witnessed.

There is other evidence. In The Force Awakens Snoke makes a very memorable quote: "If Skywalker returns, the new Jedi will rise." There is another quote, made by Lor San Tekka the beginning of the movie: "Without the Jedi, there can be no balance in the Force." We know that, as far as canon is concerned, and what most Star Wars fans simply refuse to accept, is that the light side of the Force is the Force in balance. It is the Force as it naturally occurs; the dark side is a perversion of it, and therefore, if the dark side is eliminated, the Force is in balance. Therefore, the Jedi must return in order for the Force to return to its balanced state.

There is other evidence, of course. In canon, use of the dark side at all corrupts an individual. There is no way you can "walk the line" for very long, the only exception being Bendu, and we're not sure what he is yet. While people laud Ahsoka Tano as a "grey Jedi," she is neither grey nor a Jedi. She's very much a light side Force user who no longer identifies with the Jedi Order. Even in Legends, the original Jedi, who practiced balancing darkness and light eventually fell to the dark side, forcing the remaining Jedi to use the light side to combat them; and Revan was literally torn into two different psyche due to his own efforts to balance the two sides of the Force.

Therefore, I would not get my hopes up for a "grey Jedi Order" or anything of the such. Luke's comments were very likely just a reflection of his own self-doubt, which Rey will cure by Act II of the film, thus permitting him to train her.
 
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