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Van Tien was in the Barracks waiting for one of his most skilled generals to arrive. Given the events of the last few battles, it was clear he and the rest of the military needed some training in how to command effectively. Van Tien had received no real training in the military as he had not risen to power in such a way, he was a priest.

However, the most talented general had disappeared for a while and for a while, Van Tien was the general which was bad as he had little real experience. There were other generals which were also less skilled as a space commander and they could use some help in becoming a more useful part of the Alsakan Union.
 

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*General Victor Levon stepped into the barracks. Ever since his absence the men who had stepped up to take command of the military campaign against the Republic had been...lacking in their execution of proper military strategies and tactical moves. He was here to correct that problem. Taking a look at the assembled group, Van Tien himself amoung them, he decided to start with a question.*

"Can any of you tell me what the most important part of winning a battle, whether it be space or ground is?"
 

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"To achieve the goal or goals that were decided upon beforehand," Van Tien answered as he was one of the people who needed guidance in becoming a better military leader. There was a chance that it would be somewhat awkward as Van Tien was Victor's boss but in most cases, the ultimate goal of teaching is to benefit the student and it might also help the teacher but in less direct ways.
 

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"No."

*He replied curtly. His voice cool and unemotional.

"Goals are the ends, not the means of a battle. Should the goal of an operation be to capture a world, you still need to fight to take that planet. The most important part of a battle is in understanding your enemy, what he'll attack, what he'll defend, how to counter his offensives and attack his defenses."

*As he talked he pace back and forth in front of the assembled group. Speaking to them as he would a class of cadets at the academy. He was not imtimidated by the fact most were of equal or higher rank than him. They were all inferior in their combat leadership roles. He was here to make them better commanders, if they didn't like the way he taught. Well..that was their problem.*

"Battles, especially space battles. Need firm and attentive leadership thoughout the entire course of the fighting. A good leader must pay attention to every detail of the fighting and react to it. Should a leader overlook or ignore any detail of an enemies' movements they open themselves to the risk of being out maneuvered or leaving a weakness in their own movements that can be exploited."

*He stopped pacing. Turning to face the group. Eyes sweeping over all of them.*

"Questions?"

OOC: Basically when you are in a battle read and reread what the other guy is doing and reply to everything they did in as much detail as possible. Vague posts are bad posts when it comes to battles.
 

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Van Tien had been thinking of the ultimate goal as that was usually the part that he determined, however, Victor was correct in understanding the enemy. When Van Tien declared the initial attack, the enemy was weak enough to actually fall. However, the three months it took to start carrying out those orders was enough time for the Republic spies to somehow infiltrate Alsakan high command and then be able to accurately prepare for the attack then launch their own counter-attack.

"Once we have absorbed all the required details of what the enemy is doing, what sort of weaknesses could be seen to be exploited?" Van Tien asked in what would seem to be a logical progression.

ooc: I think that may have been a problem in the Metellos battle as there were thirty or so detailed posts and I didn't fully bother myself to understand them to their entirety when I ended the battle.
 

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"The purpose of war." Major Venator Furtificus began, his voice coming from where he had been silently seated in the corner, directed towards General Levon. "Is to inflict as much pain as is physically possible in the circumstances upon your enemy, to delight in watching their face explode with pain as you cleave through sinew and bone with whatever weapon you've assumed for that battle, be it a blaster, vibroblade, or some sort of weapon in a ship. Of course the victory and defeat of your enemy is the most important goal, but it's also important to inflict pain upon the enemy; to make them remember you, to make them fear you, so the next battle can be won with less loss of life amongst your side, and even more on their side." Venator's attitude was honed through years of such experience, the most recent being in the success on Ruan, the only success out of the assaults on Bessimir, Ruan and Metellos.

"Of course, that is all for a greater purpose than the simple victory of a battle, something insignificant in the grand scheme of that which extends past life. All this is done for Shalharra, in honour of the Holy Mother by whose grace we have what we have today. Punishing the unholy ones, those who refuse to believe, is in honour of the Holy Mother, and it is through her that victory in battle is granted, thereby making sadistic punishment of the enemy a route to victory. Shalharra rewards those who are loyal to her. That is the Alsakan way." Venator firmly believed in the Alsakan religion, despite many others turning away from what had sometimes been considered silly superstition. Not for Venator, and definitely not for the religious caste.

"Of course, in terms of the actual battle excluding that of reward by the Holy Mother." Venator continued, before any interruptions could ensue, this time speaking more in a military sense. "The end justifies the means, in almost all cases. You have to be prepared to fully commit yourself to an action, to sacrifice what is dear to you in order to achieve it, or you are not worthy of believing in such a thing. You must strive to know your enemy; to learn from your mistakes and capitalise on yours, to find out there weaknesses and disadvantages, to exploit them and their people, and to use the knowledge you gain from one battle to defeat them in the next." Venator paused to allow the meaning of his words to sink in.

As he watched Van Tien and the General avidly, for a reaction to what he said, he continued, so as not to lose the spur of the moment and the passion that had filled his voice. A man consumed by war, Venator was well versed in its ways and meanings, its consequences and issues and just what it caused. "Battles are merely small set pieces in an overall war. You must aim to both focus on the battle at hand but not to lose sight of the war itself; committing too many forces to one battle may leave you overly depleted in the war, a failing on your part. Spreading your forces out across the Galaxy leaves your own land ripe for the taking if they choose not to engage your forces. All things must be considered in that glorious act we call war."
 

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"The proper reaction to exploit an enemies weakness varies from battle to battle. One commander might leave his Carriers exposed, another might divide his fleet to thin. You must find the flaw in the enemies fleet and seize it. This requires creativity and on the spot thinking. There are no textbooks or classes for such moments."

*As he finished replying to Van Tien's question. General Levon's attention turned to Major Furtificus. The major had started to speak and he listened carefully to the man's long passionate speech on warfare and battles. This one at least seemed to understand the principles of psychological and general warfare. As well as how to apply them, he had read the reports of the major's leadership and command abilities during the Battle of Ruan. The man had completed the objectives given with acceptable losses to the fleet under his command.*

"Very good major. Clearly you need no instruction on how to wage war. Your impressive command at the Battle of Ruan shows that. Tell me what is the current strength of your Skeleton Guard?"
 

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Ooc: Raider is rubbish at battles, ignore him.








I'm sorry I couldn't resist.
 

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As the General complemented him, Venator inclined his head. "You're right, General; I do need no instruction in the art of war. War's in my bones, in my blood. I've been waging it on various scales since I was but a boy, upon the streets of Nal Hutta." He paused for a moment, revelling in some of the better memories, before responding to the next question posed by the General. "The current strength of The Skeleton Guard? Considerable. Although the recent ceasefire", and here Venator's faced darkened with obvious displeasure at the turn of events was evident, "has meant we can't conduct missions against the Galactic Republic without jeopardising the peace, I've ensured a contract with another group that will allow me a lucrative business opportunity. All men, and women, are in perfect health and we're sorted with money and weapons. A number of additional plans and missions are in the pipeline in addition. We've never been better."
 

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*The general's mouth spread into a sly smile at the major's words.*

"Well Major. The Republic and Alsakan Union have agreed to a cease-fire, but I don't seem to remember the Skeleton Guard being mentioned in said cease-fire."

*The smile faded, his expression becoming very serious.*

"Do you understand what I'am saying Major?"
 

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Venator paused for a moment, nodding silently, his face and features inscrutable beneath the heavy armour he always wore. "I know what you're saying, and don't assume that the thought has occurred to me as well. However, there are a number of issues with that plan, I'd expect you to have noticed. Unless it's not obvious to you, I'm sure you can see that, whilst we're most definitely not privateers, our association with the Alsakan Union runs deep, as shown by the combined forces at the successful assault upon Ruan. This too is obvious to the Republic. Unless we're doing something strictly our own business, such as a pirate raid upon a fellow faction or something, it'd be just the excuse the hated Republic would jump at to break this ceasefire. So, if you do have any plan proposals, think them through first."
 

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"While we obviously are connected to each other, perhaps we could simulate some sort of breakup. If some of the leaders of the Republic were to be invited to our system, perhaps the Skeleton Guard could pretend to attempt a coup and the Alsakan navy could then drive them off. Then, you could attack the Republic with no worries of causing a disruption. Obviously, it would be difficult to pull off but there might be a chance.

The other possibility would be if you could either start another organization similar to it or if you were to simply disguise that you are the Skeleton Guard." Van Tien said thinking of various possibilities to be more able to carry on a war without an official war.
 

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((If I was rescued I could take part in this...:CStern::CStern::CStern::CStern:))
 

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((If I was rescued I could take part in this...:CStern::CStern::CStern::CStern:))

ooc: You could but we are at a ceasefire right now and you should probably talk to the spies to get them to rescue you.
 

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((spies? I was under the impression we had one, and he isn't on much.))
 

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((spies? I was under the impression we had one, and he isn't on much.))

ooc: We have four counting the one that's training. Though this thread is going off topic as we wait for Storm Kestrel and Raider to post. Perhaps you should start a different thread for discussion of this.
 

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((OOC: I have a spy. Yes, I'm planning on attempting a rescue on you and Lavi after CDR-382.))
 

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Venator thought for a moment, as the implications of Van Tien and the General's words began to sink in, Venator's mind working to calculate the ways in which such a plan could be successfully enacted in order to gain the best possible outcome, for Venator, the Alsakan Union, and The Skeleton Guard. "As we've seen in the duration of this war, the Republic are pretty hard men to fool. Not impossible, as we've also seen, but pretty hard. Therefore, it would have to be played out well but, also, the plan would need to be not to obvious when and if we did launch an attack on the Republic. Should I agree to this and commit The Skeleton Guard to do such a thing, what would you be wanting us to do against the Republic, exactly?"
 

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"If we were to get in such a situation, perhaps the Skeleton Guard could act as pirates and raid various areas of the Republic to weaken them somewhat. Also, with whatever piracy that you do, perhaps you could build alliances with various governments and organizations throughout the Republic. Perhaps by either stopping or aiding smuggling. Maybe you could also try to inspire independence movements. If you had good operatives, maybe you could commit acts of terrorism and then cause the government to overly restrict civil liberties which could cause a revolt. There are lots of things that you could do. The only problem is being able to get in such a position." Van Tien said thinking of all the things that a non governmental organization could do to weaken the Republic.
 
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